Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Bursey found guilty, fined $500 (Wouldn't stay in * 1st Amendment Zone)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 12:24 AM
Original message
Bursey found guilty, fined $500 (Wouldn't stay in * 1st Amendment Zone)
Edited on Wed Jan-07-04 01:03 AM by rmpalmer
http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/local/7645909.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

A judge fined longtime Columbia political dissenter Brett Bursey $500 Tuesday, ruling that Bursey broke a federal law designed to shield the president from harm.

Bursey, 55, said he would appeal and called on President Bush’s opponents to continue criticizing his policies.

U.S. Magistrate Bristow Marchant acknowledged Bursey was not a threat to Bush during the president’s Oct. 24, 2002, visit to Columbia. But the judge dismissed Bursey’s free speech defense and ruled the protester had no right to be as close to Bush as Bursey wanted in his efforts to show that some South Carolinians opposed his plan to attack Iraq.

"The defendant effectively sealed his own fate when he chose to make his principled stand in a location manifestly reasonable for the Secret Service to make secure," Marchant wrote in a 13-page ruling. Federal prosecutor John Barton said Bursey failed to prove his First Amendment rights were violated.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 12:49 AM
Response to Original message
1. Well that sucks
bigtime .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:01 AM
Response to Original message
2. The ACLU needs to get in on the appeal of this.
It's one thing to say "no signs allowed in this area", but to say "no anti-Bush signs allowed in this area" seems to be a clear violation of the 1st Amendment. They can put time, place, and manner restrictions on it, but to allow one side to have signs and the other not to is a content restriction, unless one side or the other has a permit and the other doesn't.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:25 AM
Response to Original message
3. G.M.A.F.B.
Because you know, when you want to ace the president to obviously want to draw attention to yourself by protesting him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. Bump for the morning people
Edited on Wed Jan-07-04 08:20 AM by kayell
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:24 AM
Response to Original message
5. Watch for this phrase:
"manifestly reasonable for the Secret Service to make secure".

It's crawling up the charts, looking to bump out "out of an abundance of caution" for the No. 1 Top Spot.

I give it a 6, you can dance to it. ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:32 AM
Response to Original message
6. They asked him to move to a "free speech zone" 1/2 mile away
There was testimony that * supporters were allowed to remain in visible range of *. Bursey argued that this showed selective prosecution. The judge disagreed, apparently believing that the issue was disobeying the SS orders, rather than that only certain groups of people were asked to move.

Does anyone know where the next stop in the appeals process is for this case? If the bushites keep winning on this issue, we might as well just burn the tattered remains of the first amendment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. Situation for SS recruits to consider:
"There was testimony that * supporters were allowed to remain in visible range of *..."

Citizen "A" shows up at the public Boosh-Butt-Bussing carrying a "Dubya Sucks Dead Donkey Dicks" sign.

Citizen "B" shows up at the same event wearing a sandwich board with "I LOVE Our President" on the front, "W ROCKS!" on the back, and wearing an Uncle Sam hat.

Which one are you going to banish to the hinterlands while you allow the other to get within harm's way of the Chickenhawk-in-Chief? Consider your answer carefully.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:18 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. Well, DUH!
Citizen B is OBVIOUSLY insane.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #8
12. Right!!!
Which means he can stand next to the pResdent and not look "out of place!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #12
14. Not true!
He can stand next to Bush and STILL look good.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. Hmmmmmmm
Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing?

Things are not what they seem to be?

180
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. That would be my thinking. If I were determined to do someone harm,
I sure wouldn't be in-their-face as an enemy. (Reference: "The Godfather")

Will's correct, too, of course. "B" should not be trusted around children or small woodland creatures.

It would probably be easier to just maintain a five-mile exclusion zone around Commander Codpiece so he doesn't get his Depends in a wad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. keep your friends close, and your enemies closer?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:30 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. Sort of. Keep an eye on BOTH of them, but
Edited on Wed Jan-07-04 11:18 AM by Buns_of_Fire
don't discount the friendly face that might be smiling just a little too smugly. (I know, I probably read too many novels... :shrug: )
In this case, though, I'm not sure that the paranoia is justified because of the protection aspect or just a desire to keep the dauphin isolated from any divergent opinions. Right now, probably both.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. I suspect they are afraid of having
shrubbies reaction to people disagreeing with him preserved on film for all to see.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. No, just ask Rabin or Sadat or Lennon
or any number of people that have been hit by their "guards" or fans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CheshireCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 11:34 AM
Response to Original message
16. I was in the courtroom when the decision came down.
Most SC progressives were expecting a "guilty" verdict, but we didn't expect the judge to say that the case was not about "Free Speech Zones".

What Bull!

I don't know where the next appeal will take place, but Bursey told me after the verdict was read that he WILL appeal.

Brett Bursey has good legal help and they are working pro bona. So far money hasn't been a major issue, but with the appeal coming up, they could use some help.

To donate, go to SC PROGRESSIVE NETWORK web page. Bursey is the founder and leader of the PROGRESSIVE NETWORK. Activism is his life's work.

http://www.scpronet.com/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 11:57 PM
Response to Original message
18. Sealed his own fate...principled stand...
remember those words
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 12:16 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC