(CNN) Source: Gore thinks Clinton unstoppable

[sabra]

Source: CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) — A source involved in Gore's past political runs told CNN that he definitely has the ambition to use the peace prize as a springboard to run for president.

But he will not run, because he won't take on the political machine assembled by Sen. Hillary Clinton, said the source. If the senator from New York had faltered at all, Gore would take a serious look at entering the race, the source said. But Gore has calculated that Clinton is unstoppable, according to the source.

Gore repeatedly denied he has any plans to run again, but this week a group of grass-roots Democrats calling themselves "Draft Gore" took out a full-page ad in The New York Times in a bid to change his mind.

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/12/source-gore-has-prez-ambition/

[IndyOp]

1. Unnamed source thinks... CNN sucks.... (n/t)

[ShortnFiery]

12. CNN = Corporate News Network has already crowned HRC Queen.

:thumbsdown:

[high density]

25. Yep. That's why they can't have Gore jump in

...and disrupt the "inevitability" that the talking heads have been preaching about Clinton's campaign.

[cascadiance]

40. I guess you could also call them the "Clinton News Network" in this context...

... as a lot of the freepers call it!

[cascadiance]

41. woops dupe...

post button needs to redirect quicker to show it works in safari!

[rpannier]

13. Unnamed source is part of the 'some people say' crowd

[indypaul]

79. and "everyone knows that" followed by opinionated BS. n/t

[roguevalley]

50. yeah. they picked her day one along with the rest. Sigh.

[Yupster]

2. I agree with you Al

This race has been over for months now.

And besides, I think you can do us all lots more good working to bring people all over the world together to help our environment.

That's not a bad second choice.

[HughBeaumont]

4. Great. America gets the choice between a war-favoring corporatist . . .

. . . and another war-favoring corporatist.

I'm sorry, but isn't this supposed to be a DEMOCRACY??

I DON'T want someone who believed the Failure Fuhrer running this country. It's going to be nothing but "business as usual". When is there going to be economic FAIRNESS in this country again?

[leftchick]

15. to be a real democracy we would need several parties to choose from

not two owned by corporate interests and the MIC and the HIC.

[saracat]

7. Hmm. The NBC poll has Al beating the crap out of Hillary.He should reconsider

if he ever said this which is doubtful.Rupert, did you slip this in?

[high density]

27. The race was over with Dean in 2003

Then it was over for Dean in early 2004.

[Cha]

35. Exactly and I will always

be a Dean Supporter! That man has earned it!

[PassingFair]

61. And then some...

He can come and retire on my back porch, if he wants to.

I know a CREW of volunteers that will tend to him in his old age.

He's FREAKIN' EARNED it!

[Just-plain-Kathy]

49. I'm afraid Al knows that Hillary is next in line....

I wish Al would spend more time talking about how we lost our democracy, voting is a thing of the past.

He knows the people who put Bush in office TWICE, will not give up their power so easily. Hillary will be crowned president and the media will make us believe that's what we want.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

58. You've Got It

Hillary is the next in line for the MONARCHY'S THRONE.

Nobody is going to be allowed to get in her way.

[HughBeaumont]

3. I find that to be bullshit.

The source, the "unstoppable", ALL OF IT.

RUN AL RUN. You'll see, "source", just how "unstoppable" she is.

[Don Claybrook]

5. sounds like Donna Brazille to me

Over lunch one day, Karl probably recommended she mention this.

[saracat]

6. Hilarious! You are sooo right!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[loudsue]

39. We've got a winner!

:rofl: :rofl:

[acmavm]

8. Al gets into the race and it will be 'Hillary who????'

[rainy]

9. agree wholeheartedly!

[FlaGranny]

74. I can't believe these

polls. I don't know a SINGLE democrat who wants Ms. Clinton as president. Not a single one. It scares me because they are saying they will not vote for her if she is the nominee and that's my biggest fear - that many Democrats will just stay home. I'm trying to convince them that if she is nominated, she is a much better alternative than the Republican and that they should vote for her to keep us from continuing on this path of destruction, but personal feelings are pretty strong. I personally cannot understand the animosity they have toward her. She is NOT the best candidate in my opinion, but my reasons are political, not personal.

[farmhand]

10. Gore won't run because he's backing Clinton

Al Gore will not run because it ultimately will divide the party, and he knows it will dilute the base, because there will be allot of Dems who will vote for him over her. Its because he wants a Democrat in the White House that he can't run, so he must back her. The problem is he's backing a corporate fascist who will not end the war so the way I see it is if she wins the White House, we have won nothing, thats why I am for Obama.

[ShortnFiery]

14. I love Obama, but how about Edwards/Obama team?

Edwards is the only Democratic Nominee who can deliver US The South. :shrug:

I'd love for Obama to be President, but if we don't want to split the vote and allow HRC to slip by with the nomination, I suggest you please consider voting for Edwards in The Primaries?

UNITED we can ward off the inevitability of HRC. :thumbsup:

[IndyOp]

16. Gore is *not* backing Clinton -- do you have a link that indicates he is? (n/t)

[CANDO]

20. If my fellow Democrats nominate Hillary, I will not vote.

I will not vote for a corporate shill. Let another generation of people see for themselves that this is no longer the party of FDR or JFK or RFK. Let this nation go down in flames led by a DINO. But you will not have me to blame. Flame away.

[Totally Committed]

23. Ditto.

But, everyone here who's been paying attention for the last several months knows that already.

Just reiterating that position.

TC

[hogwyld]

30. How old will Chelsea be

at the end of Jeb's second term??

[Just-plain-Kathy]

51. That went through my mind too.

....Then there's Rodger Clinton. He could be another "party boy" who makes it to the White House.

A coup took place. Corporate America is calling the shots, Hillary will be their next puppet. Al Gore has to know he would win an honest election. ...Gore not running would be a big wake up call for America.

[progressivebydesign]

32. Thanks. That's worked so fucking well last time people did that.

I bet everyone that died as a result of Bush's tenure would be appreciative also. It's one thing to have principles.. it's another to take everyone down because of it. You're not a character in some literary work.... it's real life... it's not black and white, life is gray. Everyone does the best they can, and people who have this inflated notion of their ideals never seem to understand what their little stand does to others. But.. hey.. good luck with that.

[CANDO]

69. Don't lay it on me.

Lay it on the doorstep of the DLC. You folks who think there is any economic difference are only fooling yourselves. This party is in the sorry shape it is because we don't stand on principles, we "triangulate". We pay lip service, and then "service" the corporate owners. Why not get some principles? Why not take a stand. Why let them have both candidates? You are forgetting that there are other choices than the "air of inevitability" candidate being pushed by big media.

[shimmergal]

77. Thank you, progressivebydesign.

What you said...people's ideals are not so valuable if they end up giving the election to somebody like Dubya.

The thing about Hillary is, there'll at least be the opportunity to pressure her from a progressive direction. She's not likely to live in a bubble like the Boy King, and I doubt she's innately impressed by the mere fact of those corporate contributors' wealth and power. My read is that she's primarily motivated by ambition, period, and they're useful to her. Once she's where she wants to be, I can even see her turning the tables a bit.

Not a HRC supporter in the primaries, but I'm definitely for Hillary before any Republican.

[AngryOldDem]

73. No flames here,

I'm getting tired of the whole pretense of elections anymore. We anoint, not select. I'm tired of being force-fed my nominee, be it by my party or by the media. I honestly have no idea right now how I am going to vote next year. Not that it makes much difference, other than maybe who wins the race for auditor in my county.

[JeanGrey]

78. Ditto.

[aquart]

29. Thank you for your concern. Welcome to DU.

You have no fucking idea of the meaning of the word "fascist," however. And the application of it to any Democratic candidate is disgusting and untruthful.

Obama will be destroyed by his supporters. If that's what you are.

[robinlynne]

46. the party IS divided.

[blackspade]

11. I call Bullshit on this story.

Of course 'someone' close to HRC campaign is saying this.
They are terrified of Gore entering the race.
This is such blatant MSM shilling for a particular candidate it's not even funny.
No votes have been counted, and no outcome determined by us, as in the people.
These corporate media hacks should be run out of their offices on a rail.

[jaybeat]

17. CNN: If we say it enough that will make it so

If we can discourage Gore supporters into thinking he won't run, they'll drop their efforts to get him to run.

If we say that Gore thinks that an HRC victory is inevitable, he and his supporters will think it is inevitable.

We make the truth. We define reality.

This... is CNN.

[Connie_Corleone]

18. I call bullshit on this story.

Gore thinks Hillary is unstoppable? Gimme a break!

[Totally Committed]

19. Note the highlighted sentence:

A source involved in Gore's past political runs told CNN that he definitely has the ambition to use the peace prize as a springboard to run for president.

But he will not run, because he won't take on the political machine assembled by Sen. Hillary Clinton, said the source. If the senator from New York had faltered at all, Gore would take a serious look at entering the race, the source said. But Gore has calculated that Clinton is unstoppable, according to the source.

Doesn't that say anything to anybody about the make-up and ethics-level of that "machine" ??????

Not even a man who could stop her wants to mess with the element she has surrounded herself with... and he's in a better postion to know WHY than any of us.

This is a HUGE red flag, as far as I'm concerned.


TC

[La Lioness Priyanka]

21. either that or CNN wants people to hate the mostly likely dem candidate.

we cant conveniently decide to trust or hate the corporate media.

[Totally Committed]

22. That highlighted sentence was something I already believed about the Clinton "machine"...

No offense to you, but the Clintons will never again get my vote. The people and the money they choose to surround themselves with stink out loud. Not even a man who COULD run against her wants to.

I'm disappointed by that, but I can't say I blame him.

TC

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[crispini]

26. Ooo, I think you need to put this as an OP

so it can be recommended. :thumbsup:

[HughBeaumont]

28. This needs to be it's own post.

Great job. My sentiments exactly.

[blackspade]

31. Nice

I agree completely.

[Froward69]

47. I also agree

[musette_sf]

34. excellent post

and well said. thank you. Senator Clinton MUST NOT be our candidate. otherwise, we are buying into the DLC/RNC Coalition for Eternal War and Maintaining The Status Quo.

[SomeGuyInEagan]

42. Nice, well-written post

Thank you for writing this.

[Triana]

45. Hillary IS THEIR PICK - you got that right. It's true...

....and they have their pretentious, criminal motives for picking her too. If anything, the fact that she is being hyped so much OUGHT to drive the intelligent voter away from her. But polyannas abound....

[loudsue]

48. Once again, Peace Patriot, I want to recommend your post!!

You said it better than I ever could!

:yourock:

[NotGivingUp]

68. Excellent post. I hope you've posted it as an OP. Needs a LOT of attention. n/t

[ronnie624]

75. And this is why Dennis Kucinich

will never be deemed 'electable' by the corporatist media machine, because he represents genuine change, and those who own and control 'the media', will never allow change, as long as the status quo offers easy profits.

...but she will, at the same time, greatly further global corporate predator goals, by insuring that every reform movement is turned toward privatization, by inflicting Bush's humongous federal deficit onto the backs of the poor, by instituting a military Draft (which Bush cannot do) to obtain more cannon fodder for corporate resource wars, and by killing all investigation/prosecution of Bushite criminals--stolen elections, the fraudulent election system, massive looting of the federal treasury, torture for fun and profit, murder of insider white guys (not to mention murder of a million innocent Iraqis and Afghanis), bribery, extortion, blackmail, treason--all will be whitewashed and forgotten.

Your ability to recall facts and place them in a narrative of cogent and concise analysis, is as astonishing as it is enviable.

[musette_sf]

33. that was a message from

the DLC/RNC Coalition For Eternal War and Maintenance Of The Status Quo.

Vice President Gore can now tear Senator Clinton's playhouse down with a single swipe.

thank goodness.

[Zandor]

36. Off to the GREATEST PAGE with you!

:)

[spotbird]

37. God help us all. nt

[babylonsister]

38. "involved in Gore's past political runs"? Would that be Bill? nt

[rocktivity]

43. "A source involved in Gore's past political runs..."

:boring:
rocknation

[htuttle]

54. I bet the 'unnamed source' is Donna Brazile...

...who I might add has an impressive record of being consistently wrong on nearly everything since 2001.

Hell, she probably said it in the Green Room at CNN between 'punditing' appearances...

[Triana]

44. She may be unstoppable as nominee because of the propaganda....

being rammed down our throats about that...but she IS stoppable from being elected President. In fact, that is the Republican plan.

[shireen]

52. if this is true, he's wrong!

People are sick of politics as usual.
People have lost faith and hope in government.
People are not going to pay attention to endorsements.
People recognize a slick political machine trying to manipulate them.

They will welcome Gore's candidacy.

[MethuenProgressive]

53. Gore is polling with Edwards-level numbers, so why would he run?

He is, as you may have noticed, not stupid.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

59. About His "Numbers"

If he announces he's running, and his name is automatically a 100% Guarantee of being on the ballot in these primary/caucus states, his #'s will Double.

He'll INSTANTLY become #2 behind Hillary, if not overtaking her. He'll easily be polling in the 20's.

[Bjorn Against]

66. Most people who are not running don't poll at all

The fact that he is polling Edwards level number before he even seriously hints he is running says a great deal. I don't think anyone can beat him if he chooses to run.

[uppityperson]

55. The "Big Lie" works again.

Repeat something often enough and enough people believe it so it comes true. It is really too bad.

[Zorra]

56. Unstoppable until the General Election, when Democrats once again

snatch defeat from the jaws of certain victory by nominating one of the few Democratic candidates that could actually lose the 2008 general election.

The sad fact is, no matter what kind of pretty face you want to put on it, this country has far too many ignorant, racist, homophobic, misogynist males at this point in time. And a few too many spineless women that will vote however their ignorant husbands tell them to vote. No candidate, except a "straight" white male, will be able to win the Presidency of the US at this time.

All Democrats have to do is nominate a "straight" white male, with no serious felonies and most of his teeth, to win the WH. It doesn't even matter if this candidate has the IQ of a toaster oven.

If Sen. Clinton is nominated, I'll support her and vote for her, and hope and pray that I'm wrong, and she wins the election.

The alternative is unthinkable.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

57. Al's Life & His Family's Lives Are All Being Threatened

If he's actually using this as an excuse not to run, then there is more to the story than meets the eye.

Hillary KNOWS she is going to be the next "resident," and she's not going to let Al Gore, or anyone else, stop her.

[depakid]

60. "according to the unnamed source"

Yawn.

I give that about as much credence as Drudge.

[someone else]

62. Gore would win

Gore is mistaken. Hillary is riding a fence to get the
nomination and will have to run closer to the center to win
the general. Gore would, IMHO, have a better chance at winning
both the nomination and the general. He doesn't have Hillary's
baggage and has already gotten a majority vote in a general
election. I don't understand why he can't see this.

[depakid]

63. Of course he could.

Hillary's support would dry up in a NY minute.

Of course, that doesn't mean he's going to run- it just means that CNN's "unnamed source" is probably not a source at all.

[paparush]

64. Fuck Em, Al!! You can kick her ass, Ghoulianis ass, Baraks ass..

You are Da Man!

RUN AL RUN!
RUN AL RUN!


SHAKE UP POLITICS AS USUAL.

THESE DEMOCRATS ARE 1|2 REPUBLICAN ANYWAY!

[eagler]

65. How can she be unstoppable when no votes have been cast?

Or is it fixed and voting is no longer necessary?

[Boudica the Lyoness]

67. I'd become a US citizen to vote for him.

I've lived here since the early 70's. I've never wanted to become a US citizen but if Al gets into this race I'll become an American to vote for him. He's one of the best things to happen to this country. I've met him several times and I love him. I've met Hillary too.

[Not_Giving_Up]

70. The GOP WANTS to run against Hillary...then they can bring up

anything and everything that happened under Bill's Administrations. Not just the blowjob, but ANYTHING that happened that they can jump on. A large portion of their base, white men, won't vote for her anyway, just on the grounds that she is a woman. I'm not saying that all white men have that mentality, but, particularly in the south, they do. I can say this because I was born and raised in Texas, and my mother's parents are from Mississippi. I have personally witnessed my grandfather refusing to fly on a commercial airliner because a woman was flying it.

Besides, if the right wing keeps repeating that Hillary is the front runner, doesn't that make it true? It seems to be how they handle everything. Repeat it enough, and the sheeple will accept it as fact.

This race is far from over, there is no shoe-in. There is plenty of time for any one of the candidates to trip over his or her own tongue and knock him or her self out of the race. After all, it only took one over hyped scream to knock Howard Dean out.

PLEASE RUN, MR. VICE PRESIDENT (Gore-not Cheney) YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU NOW MORE THAN EVER!!!!!!!!!!!

[Orsino]

71. Well, he's right.

The money has seen to it. Hillary has been anointed.

[ShortnFiery]

72. In The New Corporate United States of America ... MONEY is God!

:(

[Emillereid]

76. Democrats with any sense would drop Hillary fast if Gore entered the race.

I think most of her support is because she seems inevitable - not because most people are really that crazy about her.

And I know a lot of democrats who say they will not vote for her.

[TheWatcher]

80. Can we just Crown her and get it over with?

it's all just very tiresome at this point.

It seems she was inevitably annointed awhile ago.