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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:07 AM
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UW scientists create pollution-sucking trees
Source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer

Super trees that suck up and destroy toxic chemicals from the air and water faster than regular trees are the latest creation by scientists at the University of Washington.

When the scientists stick a rabbit gene into poplar trees, the trees become dramatically better at eliminating a dozen kinds of pollutants commonly found on poisoned properties.

The trees could prevent the need for digging up tons of soil or pumping out millions of gallons of water for treatment and disposal. They naturally render a list of cancer-causing pollutants -- benzene, trichloroethylene (TCE), vinyl chloride, chloroform -- non-toxic.

But while the poplars could benefit cleanup projects, they raise a multitude of ecological and ethical concerns.


Read more: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/335572_transgenic16.html
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:11 AM
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1. How about trees that suck up rethugs?
Surely they're a form of dangerous pollution
:evilgrin:
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:17 AM
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3. Now that would make for an Outer Limits episode
Several evil, Republican voting (is that redundant?) developers want to tear down an ancient grove and put up a parking lot. A group of modern day druids cast a spell which allows the trees to defend themselves; the trees come to life and begin to hunt down the developers.

Or maybe a novel.... :hi:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:23 AM
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4. Ewww yes where do we buy them?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:17 AM
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2. But St Reagan proclaimed trees created pollution!
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:26 AM
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6. He claimed that trees kill!
After stating in August 1980 that "trees cause more pollution than automobiles do," Reagan came to a campaign rally where there was a tree decorated with this sign: "Chop me down before I kill again."
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:23 AM
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5. WTF?!?!!?
Im all for making super trees... but I thought it was IMPOSSIBLE to mix animal and plant genes!
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:34 AM
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7. Genes only synthesize proteins
There is nothing to prevent taking a sequence of DNA from one lifeform and splicing it into a different lifeform; it is never anything more than a sequence of DNA. Getting it to express is the difficult part.

You will never see a mouse with leaves or a tree that grows crops of rat's tails; that would be impossible. But there is nothing to prevent creating a cotton plant that grows spider silk. Or, apparently, a poplar that can absorb and store high levels of benzene that would otherwise kill it.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:37 PM
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18. I'm a Biotech major and I'll just say you are very ignorant about molecular biology.
All living things use the same genetic code so genes can be moved from one genome to the other and the gene can still function.
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:48 AM
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8. These super trees will destroy us all!!!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:28 AM
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9. That may not be as funny as you think.
Genetic engineering makes me very nervous.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:06 PM
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14. At least hybrid poplars don't seed
They can only spread by root runners, so containing them would simply require you to cut down the GE-poplar grove and spray any suckers popping up with Round-Up.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:41 PM
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19. It's mainly companies like Monsanto that abuse the technology that are the problem.
The technology itself is just fine as long as it's properly regulated. Know any diabetics who need to take insulin shots? that insulin came from genetically engineering E. coli.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:35 AM
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11. I, personally, welcome our new super tree overlords. nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 05:35 PM
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21. The Triffids are coming, the Triffids are coming!
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 05:34 PM
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20. I've seen where this could lead...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:34 AM
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10. so 30 or 100 years from now, when oil is gone and anything that requires very high heat
can not be smelted, will they turn to wood for their needs? and will this carbon eating triffid be so dense with CO2 that when they burn a few of them, they are right back to where we are today?

my head hurts.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:36 AM
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12. "At the far end of town where the grickle-grass grows . . . "
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:52 PM
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13. Uh oh, do they breed like rabbits?
Is this the beginning of Ents?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:12 PM
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15. Ethical concerns?
Ecological concerns OK. But ethical concerns?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:31 PM
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16. "Ethical Concerns" = BS rhetoric about "playing God" brought up by fundies and luddites.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:34 PM
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17. That is a brilliant idea. It reminds me of what they do in the book "50 Degrees Below"...
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 03:35 PM by Odin2005
...by Kim Stanley Robinson. In the book they genetically engineer a lichen that lives on trees to suck up carbon dioxide and sequester it into the trees.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 05:49 PM
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22. They have another advantage as well,
if you cut off a branch and carry it with you, they bring good luck.
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