Putin warns US against attacking Iran

[TexasBushwhacker]

Source: Associated Press

TEHRAN, Iran - Russian leader Vladimir Putin met his Iranian counterpart Tuesday and implicitly warned the U.S. not to use a former Soviet republic to stage an attack on Iran. He also said countries bordering the Caspian Sea must jointly back any oil pipeline projects in the region.

At a summit of the five nations that border the inland Caspian Sea, Putin said none of the nations' territory should be used by any outside countries for use of military force against any nation in the region. It was a clear reference to long-standing rumors that the U.S. was planning to use Azerbaijan, a former Soviet republic, as a staging ground for any possible military action against Iran.

"We are saying that no Caspian nation should offer its territory to third powers for use of force or military aggression against any Caspian state," Putin said. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also underlined the need for solidarity.

"The Caspian Sea is an inland sea and it only belongs to the Caspian states, therefore only they are entitled to have their ships and military forces here," he said.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071016/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_russia

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Okay, so now Russia is drawing its line in the sand. What do you think will happen next?

[bdamomma]

1. Good for you Putin!!

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Comment, Mayor Giuliani????

You went on the record today, declaring if you were elected president, you would not allow Iran to have nuclear capabilities and you would use military if necessary.

[ixion]

3. what will happen next? If history is any indication

we'll ignore the line in the sand, out of sheer arrogance, and do whatever little lord pissypants wants to do. :puke:

[Cha]

I'm glad somebody is speaking out against

the fucking hegemoniac bushits. We know Putin is okay cause bush "
looked into his eyes and saw his soul."

At least Putin is not enabling bush like those in congress who voted for the Iranian terrorist resolution like ol' war horse hillary.

[EVDebs]

4. Israel will do what it wants. "Never again" to them means no possible attack w/WMDs, nukes

Consideration of their national survival rather than the Iranian regime's survival, they would probably unilaterally stage a preemtive attack. The regional blowback could erupt into a major conflagration with total disruption of the world oil supply. Take it from there.

Can Putin verify that Iran's nuclear activity is peaceful ? If not, what happens next ?

[ixion]

5. the IAEA has verified their nuke capabilities, I believe

so it's really not necessary for Putin to do so.

[EVDebs]

6. OK by me.

All parties should realize the MAD mutual assured destruction that would result...not to mention worldwide effects.

[Strelnikov_]

8. It would be nice if the American public, not to mention the politicians

would educate themselves as to the vulnerability we have regarding energy supply.

Iraq was toothless. Iran is not.

[peacetalksforall]

10. What the IAEA has verified is that there is plenty of time (for negotiations

and agreements - my words), but that's not what the U.S. and Israel are all about. They are all about war, plundering, and death.

[Strelnikov_]

7. Putin is playing both sides in this conflict

In order to facilitate the rise of a Russian energy superstate.

[peacetalksforall]

9. Resources, religion, and demographic snippets from Wikipedia

"2/3 of Azerbaijan is rich in oil and natural gas.<34> The region of Lesser Caucasus accounts for most part of gold, silver, iron, copper, titanium, chromium, manganese, cobalt, molybdenum, complex ore and antimony.<34> In September 1994, a 30-year contract was signed between the State Oil Company of Azerbaijan Republic (SOCAR) and 13 oil companies, among them Amoco, BP, Exxon, LUKoil, and Statoil.<32> As Western oil companies are able to tap deepwater oilfields untouched by the Soviet exploitation, Azerbaijan is considered one of the most important spots in the world for oil exploration and development.<35> Meanwhile the State Oil Fund was established as an extra-budgetary fund to ensure the macroeconomic stability, transparency in the management of oil revenue, and the safeguarding of resources for future generations."

"According to official figures approximately 93.4% to 96% of the population is Muslim, of which 70% are Shia and 30% Sunni. The vast majority of Christians are Russian Orthodox and Armenian Orthodox.<47> In 2003 there were 250 Roman Catholics.<48> Other Christian denominations as of 2002 include Lutherans, Baptists and Molokans.<49> There are also Jewish, Baha'i, Hare Krishna and Jehovah's Witnesses communities. Some of adherents are within the so-called Nehemiah Church, Star in the East Church and the Cathedral of Praise Church.<49>
Some rural Azeri retain pre-Islamic animist beliefs, such as the sanctity of certain sites and the veneration of certain trees and rocks.<50>"

"The latest census of minority groups in 2007 displayed the following proportion: Azeris - 95.8%,Russians - 2.8%, Armenians - 1.5%, Talysh - 1%, Avars - 0.6%, Tatars - 0.4%, Turks - 0.5%, Ukrainians - 0.4%, Kurds - 0.2%, Georgians - 0.2%, Tsakhurs - 0.2%, Tats - 0.13%, Jews - 0.1%, Udis - 0.05% and the others - 0.12%. The languages distribution in that census roughly corresponds with the minority groups percentage."

Interesting, that they are predominatnly Shia as is Iran. Their traditional music is similar to Northern Iran, but they want to provide this 'favor'? Some of their names are the same as in Iran.

They belong to many, many international organizations and are represented at the World Bank.

And they are on the take from us?

What good does it do for them let us launch from there? We already give them a lot with land for bases and shipping and a s buyers. If they allow the U.S. to do this, the U.S. will come back (if Cheney is still in power) to take THEIR oil, gas, gold, ports, and other resources.

[FarCenter]

11. Putin Sends Strong Messages On Day 1 of Tehran Conference

Source: Der Spiegel

At a meeting of Caspian nations that kicked off in Tehran Tuesday, the subtle message seems to be: Iran can develop peaceful nuclear energy, don't think about trying to stop it militarily and, by the way, stay away from our oil.

On the first day of a meeting of the five Caspian nations in Tehran, Russia and Iran's leaders Tuesday conveyed strong messages of solidarity when it came to protecting commercial interests and allowing Iran to go forward with its nuclear program despite vociferous Western opposition.

In a statement, Russian President Vladimir Putin voiced support for Iran's efforts to proceed with its plans to have a nuclear power plant. "We signed today a declaration which confirms the right of every nation to develop peaceful nuclear programmes without restrictions," Putin said before bilateral talks.

In addition, the five nations at the meeting -- Iran, Russia, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan -- signed a declaration stating that "under no circumstances will they allow (the use of their) territories by third countries to launch aggression or other military action against any of the member states."



Read more: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,511820,00.html

[MADem]

12. Well, the Russkies were doing nuke plant workfor Iran when Shah was in power.

There were quite a few Russkies running around Teheran and other Persian cities back then. That's not a new adventure for them, no matter who is in charge.

After all, they have an interest in being neighborly.

[Socal31]

13. Its just Putin trying to re-assert Russia's

man-balls on the world stage. It's getting childish now. This isnt post-WWII Germany. Hes not a KGB cronie any more. (well, kinda)

[tom_paine]

14. New Salin warning New Hitler now?

Wait, I thought our new, African-Amerikan Sleezy von Ribbentrop was just criticizing New Stalin ofr what doing what her boss, New Hitler (Kinder and Gentler Model) is doing to his Amerikan Subjects.

It makes me laugh.

[dickbearton]

15. Sounds about right. Back to the Cold War...

Let's hope the Criminals Bush and Chaney don't invade Iran and
make it a hot war.

[Vidar]

16. Bravo, Mr. Putin!. You're wrong on many counts, but not this one.

[Megahurtz]

17. You Go Putin!

Tell BushInc. to STFU.

[knight_of_the_star]

18. The lines are in the sand

Let us hope sanity prevails before the die is cast and we have crossed the Rubicon.