(WH) Bush only 'making a point' with 'World War III'

[sabra]

Source: ChicagoTrib Swamp Politics Blog

President Bush was simply “making a point’’ when he stated at his press conference this week that anyone who wants to avert World War III wants to keep nuclear weapons out of Iran’s hands, the White House said today.

“The president was not making any war plans,’’ White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said today. “He was not making any declaration. He was making a point.’’

It is the stated belief of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that Israel has no right to exist which could elevate any nuclear capability in Tehran to a global conflict, the president suggested in his press conference on Wednesday. Yet the White House says the U.S. is not alone in seeking to contain Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

“It is the international community which says that Iran needs to immediately halt’’ its nuclear planning, Perino said.

Read more: http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/bush_only_making_a_point_with.html

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Why is it when we compare him to Hitler it's hyperbole, but he and his crew can

say things like WWIII and mushroom cloud?

[Tyler Durden]

2. BULL FUCKING SHIT.

Bush can't WAIT to have some excuse to play war again. This penny-ante game in Iraq is just not his "style," and he wants to punch out ANOTHER country SO BADLY that he's pissing his pants to get started.

GOD DAMN but I want to see President Kucinich read that evil motherfucker his Miranda rights.

[EST]

5. Me, too, TD!

And chuckle a little while he does it.

[Orrex]

You know

If we arrest him as an enemy combatant, we don't have to bother with such pesky things as "miranda rights" or "habeas corpus."

That would be the ultimate in karmic pay-offs IMO.

[Delphinus]

20. Who gets to do the honors?

The military? The citizens? Who has the "right" to arrest enemy combatants?

[Orrex]

21. Well, I was sort of kidding, but...

Since the definition of "enemy combatant" is nebulous at best and obvious bullshit in any case, I would say that no one has the right to arrest "enemy combatants" simply because the term has no meaning.

However, if we're williong to label Bush an "enemy combatant" (perhaps on the grounds that he has actively worked for seven years to destroy as much of America as he can), then I would say that any entity injured his deliberately disastrous policies should have the right to arrest him.

[kineneb]

29. arrest, and detain in same cell as Cheney, for life

taking a cue from Dickens, as they were chained together in (outside)life, so the same in prison. Treat them fairly, with compassion (I'm Buddhist), but they get to spend the rest of their lives together. Perhaps they will learn something.

:evilgrin:

I calls it karma...

[calimary]

25. Good point.

Wouldn't it be the most delicious payback ever?

I have this fantasy that I MYSELF become president in 2009. And my first move is to issue a whole slew of executive orders that take advantage of all the excess power that bush/cheney inadvertently left in MY hands. And I turn around and use that power to bring them FULLY to justice.

[DemoTex]

12. That was my response, too, Tyler Durden. Verbatim.

BULL FUCKING SHIT.

[Tyler Durden]

18. Gonna take a CENTURY for Texas to get over the stigma of Bush.

I really feel for you guys. Spent 10 years in Texas, and it isn't the asshole capital of the WORLD, but Bush sure makes it look that way.

[DemoTex]

19. Good news: I've been gone from Texas for over three years.

The best thing to come out of Texas? I-20 East (or West)! I'm in the Carolinas now.

[Tyler Durden]

27. Rember the words of James Louis Petigru:

"South Carolina is too small for a Republic, but too large for an insane asylum."

December 8, 1860

[aquart]

28. Which the Republicans will simply sit still for.

But it's good to have dreams.

[EST]

3. El chimperor already made his best point when he

took his hat off.
I do hope the other nations of the world are a little patient with us as we (just like the people in Iran) are doing our level best to get these animated afterbirths out of office and redirect the country.

[Amonester]

4. Like pissypants wuz chimply "making a point" with the nonexistent

WMDs...

Yeah, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrigght!

Like we say... Been there... Done that....

These complicit (and batshit crazy) wingnuts never learn!

Yeah: Fool me once...

These Fools R gonna get us all killed! That's what they want! :grr:

[endarkenment]

6. Will impeachment be on the table after he starts WWIII?

Will it be an urgent enough matter then?

[doublethink]

23. Doubt it ......

the Constitution will be 'officially' suspended if WWIII breaks out.

"Once the war began," my colleague continued, "resistance, protest, criticism, complaint, all carried with them a multiplied likelihood of the greatest punishment. -snip-

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html

Peace.

[Orrex]

7. We'll meet again. Don't know where, don't know when

But I know we'll meet again some sunny day.

[Magleetis]

8. Arrogance and evil

is a very dangerous combination. He seems determined to destroy everything. His relevance is made up of negative energy.

[tridim]

15. Maybe he thinks if he destroys everything..

the history books wont be able to record his massive legacy of failure?

[legin]

9. what we need is a new 'General Theory'

to explain the garbage this planet is now.

I was brought up with the theory that either remarks were true, or they were false.

There now seems to be a third catagory the 'true/false' statement.

You say something one day, and then the next your press spokesperson qualifies what you said, so that in effect you didn't mean what you said on day one.

'Saying something' and then imediatly retracting it does not equal in it's effect 'not saying something'.

[legin]

14. Maybe I ought to read a book occasionally

Kent Bach, Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy entry

SPEECH ACTS

Making a statement may be the paradigmatic use of language, but there are all sorts of other things we can do with words. We can make requests, ask questions, give orders, make promises, give thanks, offer apologies, and so on. Moreover, almost any speech act is really the performance of several acts at once, distinguished by different aspects of the speaker's intention: there is the act of saying something, what one does in saying it, such as requesting or promising, and how one is trying to affect one's audience.

...

Some speech acts, however, are not primarily acts of communication and have the function not of communicating but of affecting institutional states of affairs. They can do so in either of two ways. Some officially judge something to be the case, and others actually make something the case. Those of the first kind include judges' rulings, referees' calls and assessors' appraisals, and the latter include include sentencing, bequeathing and appointing. Acts of both kinds can be performed only in certain ways under certain circumstances by those in certain institutional or social positions.


http://online.sfsu.edu/~kbach/spchacts.html

[doublethink]

24. The fictional book by George Orwell already covered all this.

'1984'. Seems less and less fictional now-a-days. Peace.

[scarface2004]

10. i say we lose maybe 10.....

20 million tops!!! the chimp sneered!!

[whistle]

11. Dana Perino could not come straight out and admit Shrub* is a megalomaniac

...psychotic sociopath :wtf:

Is there still any reason why impeachment is not on the table?

[tridim]

13. No, he "made the ultimate domestic terrorist threat", and he knows it.

It's all they had left.

Thankfully it's backfiring on his sorry ass, bigtime.

[olddad56]

16. Is he even in this country legally?

[tom_paine]

17. They are such LIARS. It was a veiled Mafia-style threat, plain and simple.

It was very likely a self-fufuilling prophecy. The Bushies know it, because they are the ones who are going to fufill it, and are highly desirous of it, I believe.

[JohnnyLib2]

22. Yes, Dana. And what will your book say, a couple of years from now?

What a miserable mess we have in the WH.

[ryanmuegge]

26. I just wish Bush would give up the pretense that this conflict with Iran has anything to

do with "national security" or "nukyaler" weapons. Same with Iraq. This is about energy reserves. All of this is such an insult to the collective intelligence of humanity. Just be honest. Be a man.