Clinton vows to oppose Bush war request

[journalist3072]

Source: AP via Yahoo News

Clinton vows to oppose Bush war request

by Stephen Collinson
2 hours, 41 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Democratic White House front-runner Hillary Clinton Tuesday vowed to oppose President George W. Bush's new 196 billion dollar war funding request, stiffening her party's new assault on Iraq policy.

The New York senator said she could not support the mammoth cash injection unless it included a commitment to begin bringing US troops home from the war.

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"President Bush is once again asking Congress and the American people to foot the bill for his failed leadership," Clinton said.

"The Bush administration's escalation in Iraq has not led to political reconciliation and our troops still remain in the middle of a civil war.

"I cannot and will not support funding legislation that does not begin to bring our troops home," Clinton said in a written statement.

"Unless the administration changes course in Iraq, I will vote against this supplemental request."







Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071023/pl_afp/usiraqpoliticsdemocrats_071023210447

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

1. Nice.

Let's see how this goes, :kick: MKJ

[acmavm]

2. Pfffffft!

[angstlessk]

3. so he allows 30,000 whose time is up anyway, instead of extending their tours

he 'allows' them to come home..NOW CLINTON WILL VOTE FOR ALL BOOSH WANTS AND MAYBE SUGGEST MORE?

[robinlynne]

4. ok. right on! This earns my respect!

I am one of those hated "hillary bashers, although I don't bash, I criticize.
This is a Democratic position.
I applaud.
Let's see all Dems do this, and filibuster FISA!

[More Than A Feeling]

5. She's learned from her mistake

of waiting until the last minute to announce her stance in the last funding request. I've been waiting a long time to see her visibly learn like that.

[EVDebs]

6. Get her to put it in writing next time ! Otherwise her record of bowing to Bushco is unsurpassed.

[journalist3072]

20. Bullshit. eom

[EVDebs]

21. Clinton 'vows'. Yeah, right. Been there, done that. Read post #9

And then ReRead post number 9. Has Hillary got the courage to do a filibuster on this funding bill ? I doubt it.

But you know what ? If she DID do that she'd win over most of the posters supporting DK and JE on this DU site, but again, she lacks the courage to go ALL IN on something. Too much of an equivocator, triangulator, Alcibiades-type-game-player.

[Purveyor]

7. Watch what they do, not what they say... eom

[old guy]

8. Talk is cheap.

Lets see what actually comes of it all.(Seems I may have heard this talk before)

[IndianaGreen]

9. There are two ways of stopping Bush's war funding request

1. The Speaker of the House prevents any action on the bill. Considering how Pelosi pressured Pete Stark to apologize today, I doubt she is on our side on this issue.

2. The Senate filibusters the bill.

Hillary will have to filibuster the war funding bill when it comes up for a vote in the Senate.

[Brrrp]

37. Pelosi has said she won't agendize further war funding....

...this year, and won't put anything on the agenda next year without a 'fixed date' for US withdrawal. Whether she will come through on this promise is anybody's guess. She made this promise in a video with Arianna Huffington here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/are-you-too-wellbehaved_b_68550.html

[TheFarseer]

10. It's freeking asanine

to vote for the Iraq war, vote for the Iran war and then vote to not fund the troops. What? You didn't think the war would cost money? I could see claiming you were fooled, made a mistake or whatever but then to vote FOR the Iran war, you lose all credibility for me. You voted for the war and continue to be for invading random countries, so you need to vote to fund the troops.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

15. Fund the troops? Because Bush says so?

MKJ

[rpannier]

11. Ahem... cough. yeah... ohhhhhkay... sure... ummmmmmm

Right.
Believe it when I see it.

[DLnyc]

12. Yay! Facing right direction. Now start walking, along with the rest of us.

You may find your legs get tired. But it's nice to know you're in good company. Maybe you'll even find some shoulders to lean on.

[pscot]

13. Can she get 40 other Senators to vote with her?

That would be leadership with a gigantic "L". If she can pull that off I guarantee she has my vote.

[CoffeeCat]

22. True......

if this is just symbolic posturing and empty rhetoric...we'll know that soon.

Hillary is a powerful Senator from New York. If she really believes what she
says (which is contrary to every Iran vote and now her pro-war, Iran votes) then
she will not only speak, but she will act. She has the venue, she has the power.
She needs to use those things to enact change.

Words mean nothing.

I'm going to treat this with open-minded skepticism. If she galvanizes and acts
like a true leader--and gets other Dems to vote with her, I will be impressed.

And that's saying a lot.

[Pastiche423]

14. Someone is watching her poll numbers sink

[journalist3072]

19. Just come back to reality for a minute, will you.....

I swear, sometimes you anti-Hillary folks here on DU are so divorced from reality it's not even funny.

[EVDebs]

26. My dear, John Edwards can turn red states blue. Hillary can't do that

You end up with the 2000 and 2004 blue coast syndromes with Hillary winning on the coasts but losing in the redlands of the interior.

2004 Election Map by county



2000 Election Map by county

[journalist3072]

27. Then why isn't John Edwards the incumbent Vice President? (Besides what happened in Ohio in 2004

which I thought was a disgrace).

Moreover, why isn't John Edwards even ahead in his own home state of North Carolina? Last poll I saw had Sen. Clinton leading Edwards in his own home town.

Speaks volumes, don't you think?

[EVDebs]

28. SCOTUS 'selected' * in 2000 and haven't you heard about the OH vote fraud

and 'caging' in 2004 ? Gore didn't win TN so big whoop there. I think HRC will have problems in Arkansas too. As far as winning those red states isn't this why the GOP is pushing hard for HRC to be the Dem nominee ? Speaks volumes, don't you think ?

[rinsd]

36. Edwards loses to Rudy in the NorthEast.

He won't be able to make inroads down South when he has to spend a great deal of time and money in NY/NJ/PA.

[EVDebs]

41. Source please, when was this election held ? nt

[Pastiche423]

30. I'll stay in my reality, thank you very much

A reality that does not include believing her karl rove.

[rinsd]

35. Poll numbers sink? LOL! Bloomberg/LA Times has her with a 30 point lead!

[Pastiche423]

38. MSM + Penn = bullshit

Go ahead and believe TPTB that are appointing their queen via the MSM.

I have friends all over the country and not one single one of them knows anyone that supports Hillary.

Where the hell is she getting the numbers? From republics? Hell, that's where she's getting her big bucks (think Murdoch).

[rinsd]

39. But you said her poll numbers were sinking?

Was that just a scoop from Inner Rectum News??

[Pastiche423]

40. Depends on who's taking the polls, eh?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

16. Good news

Now how many others are on board?

[monktonman]

18. Im willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

Although I have to grit my teeth.
Lets hope she stands her ground.

[Hand]

17. ... for a whole five minutes. nt

[Froward69]

23. We all know my guy can get things done

Lets see if she can. It would garner my respect.

[razors edge]

24. Would an acceptable course change be

surging in more troops, or mercs?

She was OK with that last one, and all the ones before it IIRC.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

25. She'll oppose it up to the moment she caves and votes "AYE".

:shrug:

[fedupfisherman]

29. right on

She supports the war

[HuffleClaw]

31. *yawn*

oh sure NOW?

[MethuenProgressive]

32. The Usuals will scoff at this, there's just no pleasing *some people*

As anyone can see from some of the comments so far, the Usuals are in full Negative mode...

[Vinca]

33. Are Democratic politicians in Washington actually a new version

of the Chatty Cathy doll? You pull a string and they say the same thing over and over and over, but never amount to anything.

[Hawkowl]

34. DO IT!!!

The first HRC thread I've ever recommended. Simple: grow a spine = growing support. It's a formula for all dems.