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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:20 PM
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CIA Chief Michael Hayden Defends 'Lawful' Interrogation Practices
Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON --CIA Director Michael Hayden defended his agency's interrogation practices Tuesday as political pressure mounted on President Bush's attorney general nominee to reject a technique that allegedly was part of the CIA's interrogation program.

"Our programs are as lawful as they are valuable," Hayden said in remarks prepared for delivery to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. "The best sources of information on terrorists and their plans are the terrorists themselves."

Hayden said "the irreplaceable nature of that intelligence is the sole reason we have rendition, detention and interrogation programs."

Several senior Senate Democrats had vowed to vote against the president's nominee for attorney general, Michael Mukasey, unless he stated unequivocally that the practice of "waterboarding" is torture. That would render the practice illegal. The U.S. military already forbids it.

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In a letter to Senate Judiciary Committee Democrats late Tuesday, Mukasey called waterboarding "repugnant" but said he didn't know if it is illegal because he hasn't been cleared to receive a classified briefing on it. If after further study he finds that it is, he would rescind any federal legal opinion that allows its use, he wrote.

Read more: http://www.bnd.com/326/story/166252.html
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:32 PM
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1. "Our programs are as lawful as they are valuable..."
Edited on Tue Oct-30-07 07:34 PM by Solly Mack
factoring in that torture does not yield anything of value...
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:15 PM
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7. "Our programs are as lawful as they are valuable..." in other words, not very!
He's a piece of work alright.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:17 PM
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8. Exactly...and I agree...he is a piece of work
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:30 AM
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10. It's easy to make something Lawful by just changing the wording of the Laws
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 08:31 AM by Toots
As the Administration has done time and time again. If the Administration says it isn't illegal than by God it ain't illegal after all he is the "Decider" in a "Unitary Executive" Administration..When Bush* first came to office it was illegal to withhold Presidential Papers. There was an "Act of Congress" that was called the Presidential Papers Act and it requires the release of those papers. Bush* rewrote Congressional Law..
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:46 PM
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2. Prove it.
we don't believe you Hayden
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:50 PM
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3. Michael Hayden, like the Criminals Bush and Chaney, should be charged with treason...
Michael Hayden is a traitor and a war criminal.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 08:37 PM
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5. Seconded.. . . . . . . n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 09:18 AM
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16. these guys all come from the same cloth.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:52 PM
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4. Simply quote the specific law.
Give us the chapter, verse, paragraph and subparagraph. Show us the law book. Quote the law.

Prove it.

:shrug:
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 09:27 PM
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6. Michael Twitchyface Hayden ? He seems a lot pervy to me.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:29 PM
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9. I watched him on Charlie Rose
on PBS a few nights ago. He just needed a monocle and he'd look like some Nazi concentration camp commandant. A very scary, quirky, tic-ridden, weirdo, bush parrot, sock puppet, skin-crawly, pale, doughy, worm of an individual. He just looked like he could have you killed without a second thought. He's a no conscience psychopath if I ever saw or heard one. Did I say scary? The stuff nightmares are made of.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:56 AM
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11. CIA chief backs rendition flights
Source: bbc




Last Updated: Wednesday, 31 October 2007, 07:51 GMT

CIA chief backs rendition flights


Gen Hayden said programmes such as extraordinary rendition produced what he said was irreplaceable intelligence.

Under the programme, terror suspects are transported to secret prisons in countries with less stringent interrogation rules.

Mr Hayden, speaking in Chicago, said the leads gained justified rendition.

"The irreplaceable nature of that intelligence is the sole reason why we have what I admit freely is a very controversial programme."
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Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7070483.stm




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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:56 AM
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12. Rendition to allow torture implicates US in that torture.
These asshats just don't get it.

Maybe they can explain it to them at the Hague.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:56 AM
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13. Josef Mengele also argued that his research was valuable nt
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:57 AM
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14. Time for him to go...
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 09:04 AM
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15. If it's so legal, Mr. Hayden . . .
Why are you contracting out the questioning to folks who are more acquainted with alligator clips and power drills than the "good cop, bad cop" routine?
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 06:25 PM
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17. he's just creepy
that's all, twitchy and creepy. Twitches right after he lies.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:18 PM
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18. Rendition is used specifically to avoid U.S. laws -- some justification there
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