Hillary snags AFSCME endorsement

[ccpup]

Source: Talking Points Memo

from AFSCME president Gerald McEntee:

This is no time to take chances. We need someone who knows how to fight and knows how to win. Sisters and Brothers, Senator Clinton is a seasoned fighter. Believe me, she knows how to fight and she knows how to win.

Some of you may have seen last night’s debate.

Six guys against Hillary.

I’d call that a fair fight.

This is one strong woman.

This is the Democrat with the strength and experience to make change happen.

This is the Democrat with the strength and experience who will always stand up for working Americans.

This is the Democrat with the strength and experience to take on the Republicans in the fall.

This is the Democrat who can win the White House in 2008.

Read more: http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/10/breaking_hillary_wins_big_asfcme_endorsement.php

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This has gotta be more good news for Senator Clinton.

[bpeale]

1. AFSCME Local 2393 weighing in here

just because the union head gives the endorsement doesn't mean the rank & file go along with it.

Edwards for President!!!

[ccpup]

2. I suspect that's true

regardless of what Union is endorsing what Candidate.

[saracat]

3. OOOH poor Hillary.Poor little girl. McEntree ought to be ashamed of himself

Don't anyone dare criticize her because she is a "girl". Wash! That is so insulting to all feminists everywhere. If you want to state she held her own as a candidate, that is fine but the "six Guys against Hillary" remark is sexist and uncalled for.

And many local unions are going to be bolting that endorsement.This comes from"leadership".It is not the opinion of rank and file.

[William769]

6. You are so predictable.

But thats what I like about you.

[William769]

7. You are so predictable.

But thats what I like about you.

[saracat]

9. So are you! you have to say this twice? BTW, trying to spin a Hillary "win" from yesterday was a

scream! She certainly took it on the chin from Edwards Dodd and Obama.They let the voters see her for who she is! And she enabled them to do it. She apparently can't tell the truth or give a straight answer no matter what the circumstances!

[William769]

10. I was trying to spin a Hillary win from Yesterday?

Can you show me where?

Sometimes things needed to be said twice, because someone doesn't get it the first time.

[saracat]

26. Perhaps it wasn't you but many Hillary people have.I apologize if you have not done so.

[Maribelle]

29. Edwards and Obama merely threw sucker punches, missing her chin by a mile.

That's what happens when rookies go against a professional.

They tried to obfuscate what she said, pretending they were confused. What they accomplished was to show off their willingness to stoop low in desperation. They are not to be trusted, those petty bashers Edwards and Obama.

[Selatius]

34. Edwards has been around for a while, I doubt he'd qualify as a "rookie." Obama, however, ...

Edwards came and did well last night out there.

[Plucketeer]

4. This is...........

......a big mistake - that's what it is. Has dame Hillary lowered the maximum amount donors can give? Has she sworn off corporate bucks? Do you think she'll give a return on the few YOU put up to back her? All those questions get a two-lettered answer that starts with N.

[William769]

5. K&R!

[emilyg]

8. Good news.

[goddess40]

11. Are they encouraging their members to join the military too?

Since Clinton is staying in Iraq those that support her need to look at enlisting - not now after she's elected, if that comes to pass.

[rodeodance]

12. AFSCME Endorses Clinton

Source: ap


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071031/ap_po/clinton_union_endorsement;_ylt=Ap6OUOJJmoeothc9FhYURoas0NUE

AFSCME Endorses Clinton

By JESSE J. HOLLAND, AP Labor Writer 3 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on Wednesday, a major boost for the Democratic front-runner.

The union is the largest for workers in the public service sector with 1.4 million members nationwide. AFSCME represents a diverse group of service and health care workers in the public and private sectors including nurses, bus drivers, child care providers, custodians and librarians.

Clinton will officially accept the endorsement later Wednesday.

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Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071031/ap_po/clinton_union_endorsement;_ylt=Ap6OUOJJmoeothc9FhYURoas0NUE

[Virginia Dare]

13. Maybe this will force SEIU's hand to endorse Edwards?

they've not seen eye to eye of late.

[saracat]

14. Most of SIEU has endorsed Edwards.

[Virginia Dare]

15. The leadership hasn't yet though...n/t

[saracat]

19. The leadership isn't going to endorse, or so they said.

[Virginia Dare]

25. I'm just wondering if the pressure will be increased on them now..

to do so?...:shrug:

[Freddie Stubbs]

17. Not Illinois, which is one of thier largest states

They are backing Obama.

[saracat]

20. But 12 including California and New hampshire and Iowa are backing Edwards,

Ill was "expected" to go for Obama.Favorite son status.

[Freddie Stubbs]

24. But apparently not enough states for Edwards to get the national endorsement

Illinois has a lot more members than Iowa, and the fact that the states border means that they can easily mobilize to Iowa to work for the Obama campaign.

[Freddie Stubbs]

16. Well, that must mean that AFSCME is a bunch of war-mongering DLC neo-con corporatists

;)

[saracat]

21. No Gerald McEntree is. Rank and file are already breaking away from this endorsement.

[Freddie Stubbs]

22. Are you suggesting that McEntree made this decision all by himself?

:shrug:

How many rank and file have broken away?

[Maribelle]

32. All union leaders would be considered corporatists. What do you have against labor unions?

Do you even know what the term corporatist means? I'll bet you don't. I'll bet you're just regurgitating talking points someone else made up.

[bpeale]

18. AFSCME Local 2393 weighing in here

no Hillary for me. i'm voting for Edwards!!

Edwards for President!!!

[Freddie Stubbs]

23. Is that Local 2393's official position, or just your's?

:shrug:

[bpeale]

27. that's MY official opinion. AFSCME doesn't speak for me in elections

[Freddie Stubbs]

28. And yet AFSCME elects leaders who support Hillary

I wonder why that is the case.

[bpeale]

36. that guy speaks for himself

as an AFSCME member, i was not asked who i supported. i don't think this guy can deliver the AFSCME union workers for Hillary. almost all i talk to support Edwards & i don't see that changing. the union does not speak for me in instances of voting for a leader for our country.

[Maribelle]

30. "Six guys against Hillary. I’d call that a fair fight."

:kick: Hillary's kicking it!

[ccpup]

31. but whatever you do

don't mention Hillary is a woman. Some of our more sensitive, blushing wallflower-type Posters may find that sexist. :sarcasm:

[Omaha Steve]

33. I can live with this

Should Senator Clinton win the nomination, I will work for her to win the next step. Should she win next November I will be ecstatic. But today there is no joy in Mudville.

Omaha Steve

Steward AFSCME local 251

[desi]

35. Six guys against Hillary.

It was actually eight with Russert and Williams providing the ammo. As sallyseven so aptly posted, a shameful gang bang.

"Hillary Clinton inspires our members. She sparks the flame we need to win. She’ll motivate our members to knock on more doors, make more phone calls and talk to more co-workers than ever before.

This is our year. We’re tired of close elections. Hillary’s got it right – we’re in it to win it, and we’re going to win this election with a big enough margin that even George Bush’s Supreme Court can’t take our victory away. We’re going to activate a 40,000-member volunteer army to mobilize our members and our neighbors – and we’re going to do it the old-fashioned way, worksite-by-worksite, block-by-block.

And we’re going to start with an unprecedented GOTV effort in Iowa where we represent 30,000 workers who are ready to turn their country around."

K&R

[LeFleur1]

37. What Gets Me Is...

The spinning and twisting of the truth about Hillary on this board. It's as if the board has been infilterated by the right wing nutcakes. Same tactics. Lies, Innuendo. I was under the illusion that Democrats were better than that.
It's one thing to support a candidate other than Hillary and say why, it's quite another to lie about her, twist the truth and throw dirt.

If other candidates can't stand on their ideas and their records, I suppose they might need these supporters to lie and act in a neocon manner. If they can stand on their ideas and their records, they don't need such guttersnipes dirtying their campaign.

[ccpup]

39. it's a difficult truth to accept

but the Democratic Party is as fractured as can be. And many on this Board DO often resort to blatant untruth, twisting of words, stating their opinion as irrefutable fact and insisting that if you're against them (or their Candidate) you're wrong and a corporate shill and blah blah blah. Many of those against Hillary often parrot easily refuted Right Wing lies, but, fortunately, these Posters are easy to identify and then avoid.

The sooner you realize this the easier it'll be to come to DU, get the info you need and then move on. The welcome accepting community one would hope to find here really doesn't exist.

[snooper2]

38. Now that's funny, "This is the Democrat"

repeat it enough and people may stop thinking she's a repuke :)

[HughBeaumont]

40. "who will always stand up for working Americans" . . .

. . . except when she doesn't.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GC01Df03.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/538674.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/593175.cms

"Outsourcing works both ways", she told Dobbs and his constituency of anti-free traders who tried to corner her on the issue.

Damn skippy I'm anti-free-trade. Free Trade is a moldy bill of Reaganite goods designed to put more money in the coffers of the betters while pissing on the middle, working and poor classes of all nations involved.

Hillary Clinton made it apparent where she stood on outsourcing during her India visit, in an attempt perhaps to clear the Indian misgivings received during the Kerry campaign. "There is no way to legislate against reality. Outsourcing will continue," she told an audience of Indian big-wigs.

Why ANY Union endorses a two-faced candidate like this instead of someone who CARES about the labor of this country . . . like Edwards . . . is beyond me completely.

I'd like a logical explanation from Hillary how destroying one nation's working class to lift another helps working classes from both countries involved. Does she take in account unemployment and closed plants and businesses means less tax money going into the local and state communities, less income going into the economy, more secondary businesses such as bars, local stores, etc, closing because of all the lost revenue they once had when people are gainfully employed? Does she take into account the cost of retraining and the greater cost to the overall economy of likely underemployment (i.e. going from $25 to $13 dollars an hour)? Does she take into account the toll on the physical and mental health of the worker and the stress placed on families and relationships due to displacement? These are only some of the many reasons why offshoring and layoffs are unnecessary and economically detrimental.

SHAME.