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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:18 PM
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Impeachment Activists Sit In Nadler’s Office
Source: Crooks & Liars

Several activists from World Can’t Wait, joined by other antiwar activists are at Jerold Nadler’s Brooklyn office today. They don’t intend to leave until they get a commitment from Nadler to get impeachment started in the House Judiciary Committee. They are requesting that you put out the word, asking people to call Nadler’s offices to make the same demand.

Washington Office: Tel. 202-225-5635
Manhattan Office: Tel. 212-367-7350
Brooklyn Office: Tel. 718-373-3198

Nadler is the chairman of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, and definitely sympathetic. Here’s what he had to say to Josh Marshall back in June about Bush’s warrantless wiretapping:

“a criminal conspiracy…worse than Watergate…The President, the Attorney General, and anybody else — there’s a prima facie case they engaged in a criminal conspiracy. And in effect what they’re saying is they have a right to classify, and thus hold themselves harmless, from a criminal conspiracy. From my point of view, if the executive branch is contemptuous of the power of Congress, and is going to go above the law, and ignore the law, you have to use whatever weapons the Constitution gives Congress.”

Read more: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/02/impeachment-activists-sit-in-nadlers-office/
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:22 PM
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1. I wish them luck
I'll probably see then when they all come this way next week.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:34 PM
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2. Most Americans are for impeachment and accountability-a contact list
Congressional leadership DC office direct lines

Jerrold Nadler
(202) 225-6923

John Conyers
(202) 225-5126, (202) 225-0072

Nancy Pelosi
(202) 225-4188

Steny Hoyer
(202) 225-4300

Toll free Congressional switchboard numbers
1-800-862-5530

1-800-828-0498

1-800-614-2803

1-866-340-9281

1-866-338-1015

1-866-220-0044

Internet contact resources

Congress.org
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/

U.S. House of Representatives
http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW_by_State.shtml

House Leadership Offices
http://www.house.gov/house/orgs_pub_hse_ldr_www.shtml

U.S. Senate
http://www.senate.gov/

Senators
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 08:03 PM
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36. Thank you Bob!!!
:hi:
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:35 PM
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47. Do you have any support for the assertion that most Americans favor impeachment?
From what I remember reading, there's a minority that likes Bush and a minority that favors impeachment, but the balance of power (in the population at large and in Congress) is held by those in the middle. They disapprove of Bush's job performance but they don't think his malfeasance rises to the level of impeachment.
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:16 AM
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50. very well stated
the guy is on his way out and making it worse for himself, his party, and his ideology along the way. Why garner public sympathy by start a long impeachment process. Lets concentrate on winning in 08
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 08:19 AM
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56. That's right why worry about enforcing LAW
Pretty soon the criminals will be out of sight with all their stolen loot and we won't have to be bothered...Who Cares? :shrug:
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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:37 PM
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63. well said!! Might as well let criminals continue to commit crimes against the people
they are supposed to protect.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:27 AM
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51. The Democratic leadership and the Republicans have ignored our message
about IMPEACHMENT and ACCOUNTABILITY-that's a fact.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:48 AM
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53. That bag of pillage
will be of no use when our society breaks down. Oh they can flee the country and be safe where? Even a small island depends on the world for supplies, food, and drugs. No man is an island...nor is any politican.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 03:46 AM
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55. Well, here's some stuff... qualified support - if charges can be proven.
But support nonetheless.

http://www.democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-2

and

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/4421

That trend has been on the upswing through the bush years. And now it's at least two-pronged. At first IMPEACHMENT was polled in the event bush was shown to have lied about the war. That was the only issue that provoked a question about the "I"-word a couple of years ago. But since then, there is a second finding of support for IMPEACHMENT tied to illegal wiretapping. I'm sure the IMPEACHMENT question will be asked regarding other issues. Hell, there seem to be more every frickin' day.

It means, in part, that the whole concept of IMPEACHMENT is no longer completely unthinkable. It's now worth talking about and kicking around as an option. It's no longer that-which-must-never-be-discussed. It WAS taboo at one point. Not anymore.
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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:38 PM
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64. Thanks for posting this
I've called all four of them. Gwen Moore recently changed her mind, and so can the others.
.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:35 PM
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3. kicking
for justice.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:36 PM
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4. and rec'ing, too.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:37 PM
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5. One more rec, please! nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:41 PM
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6. K & R
2008 will be great.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:42 PM
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7. I'm crossing my fingers hoping for that to be true. nt
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:49 PM
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8. Great! I heard you call in to the Hartmann show.
Don't allow Nadler to shirk you off. It is time for all Democrats to show some spine.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:49 PM
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9. If I understand this quote, it is coming from Nadler? And he
says that he has to use whatever weapons the constitiution gives Congress. Well it sounds to me like that weapon is Impeachment. But this should be so easy since the crimes are already known. As I say to those around me that need to get moving- kitty on up.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:54 PM
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13. Yes...it's an excerpt from this interview:
http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/001546.html

MARSHALL: Is there one issue that really hasn't gotten a lot of press attention that should, that you're going to be looking at?

NADLER: I think the one issue that hasn't gotten enough attention is the overwhelming obviousness of the fact that this entire warrantless wiretapping is illegal and the President and Attorney General are engaged in a criminal conspiracy. I mean, to me this is worse than Watergate. I don't understand why -- yes, it got in the press a little...yes, this is illegal, no it's not, because we have this power. Well, the Supreme Court says you don't have that power. There is no shadow of a claim at this point. And it's incredible.

MARSHALL: And this is even separate from, I mean James Comey, comes in and says, you've got to bring it back, you're saying even at that level it's still illegal, even what he approved?

NADLER: Yes, that's right. Clearly.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:46 PM
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27. Nadler sounds like a great guy
Why is he being hassled? Wouldn't a Republican make a better target?
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:44 PM
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48. Nadler IS a great guy, and targeting him is silly.
Reasonable progressives can disagree about whether pushing for impeachment now is the best course of action. Staging a sit-in in Nadler's office is a complete waste of energy.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:45 AM
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52. By not doing it what will your children
and future generations think of us? We left them in a mess without a protest or even raising our voices.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:00 AM
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57. Then target a Republican who's opposed to impeachment AND has been a Bush enabler
Your charge of "without a protest or even raising our voices" doesn't apply to Nadler. To take but one example, he voted against the "PATRIOT" Act and has been one of its most persistent and trenchant critics. That bill passed overwhelmingly. If these protestors want to annoy somebody, they should have no trouble finding some compliant Congressperson who went along with it.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:33 AM
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58. We tried
but the media and our party didn't support anti-war Progressive Democrats.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 09:43 PM
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41. Impeachment crimes are many
Edited on Wed Jan-02-08 09:51 PM by mac2
and don't even need hearings to get proof, etc.

-He was AWOL on 911 and Katrina.
-He meets in private with world leaders making trade deals without Congressional (of course they let him do it) or citizen knowledge and approval.
-He breaks and makes his own laws.
-He ignores the Constitution and his duties. He takes Congressional duties and abuses his power with signing statements, executive orders, etc.
-He gives funds to religious organization without accountability or Congressional approval.
-He hides and refuses to release documents and agency information regarding thing which are important to our citizens. We want answers but get the big "it's too secret" when it is just a cover up. He ignores the Senate (who have Constitutional over sight power and a subpoena from them).
-We the people have been ignored and lied to about his wars and World Government agenda of the Americas Union, etc.
-The Downing Documents were signed by him and Tony Blair before 911 to invade Iraq.
-Our treasury robbed and plundered with little to show for it. Debt has caused us to be controlled by our enemies (and some so called friends).
-How many times has Bush\Cheney\Rice\Rumsfeld\Powell, etc. lied to us and not been held accountable for purgery before the people? Many died because of their lies and wars.

All this and they can't see impeachment?

Guess Bush has to be caught having sex with a young boy in the oval office. Even President Clinton had adult, opposite sex, consensual sex...and that was impeachable (oh he lied to the court?). Congress got very angry about that but not Bush's horror and almost daily lies?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:51 PM
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10. K&R! nt
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:52 PM
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11. Done and done k&r nt
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:52 PM
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12. K&R..for the cause!!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:55 PM
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14. k
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 04:01 PM
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15. K&R
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jdadd Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 04:03 PM
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16. K & R....
:kick:
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 04:07 PM
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17. How Many More Have To Die?
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 04:21 PM
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18. Keep the pressure on!
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 04:22 PM
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19. I called. Send faxes too!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 04:24 PM
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20. He needs activists in his office to start impeahcment proceedings?
After THAT quote?

Where is the leadership these days?
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 09:55 PM
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43. Love it...
The FISA courts, FEMA, Justice Department, Defense Department, State Department, FDA, FCC, NIA, CIA, FBI, Treasury Department, Supreme Court, etc. will all work better for the good of the people with Cheney and Bush gone (and the Shadow Government working behind and in secret).

The American people demanded it in election 2006...where is it Congress?
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webDude Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 04:27 PM
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21. called the manhattan office, answerer said he would pass it on.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 04:48 PM
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22. K&R... ON WITH IT!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:06 PM
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23. one was on Thom Hartman today--saying Nadar is stonewalling
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:08 PM
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24. One of the activists at Nadler’s office is Elaine Brower, whose son is currently serving in Iraq:
One of the activists at Nadler’s office is Elaine Brower, whose son is currently serving in Iraq:

As Brower was talking about her son and his immediate future, the chief spokesman for the U.S. forces in Iraq was sending out a war-related message of his own. Don’t pay too much attention to the body count, the military flak said.

“The 2,000 service members killed in Iraq supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom is not a milestone,” Army Lt. Col. Steve Boylan wrote in an e-mail to war reporters. “It is an artificial mark on the wall set by individuals or groups with specific agendas and ulterior motives.”

Special agendas? Like trying to salvage America’s good name?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:12 PM
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25. Call numbers HERE===do your duty



......Washington Office: Tel. 202-225-5635
Manhattan Office: Tel. 212-367-7350
Brooklyn Office: Tel. 718-373-3198
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:01 PM
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29. Ok Rodeodance, I did my duty and asked Nadler to Impeach.
I also asked what his Nadler's views on Impeachment are? Unfortunately the young man couldn't tell me.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:19 PM
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26. k and r
Go World Can't Wait....we can't stop the war as long as w and shooter are in the WH.

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stephinrome Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:00 PM
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28. called the brooklyn office...they close at 4:30!
Anyway, I read the live blogging over at http://www.afterdowningstreet.org and saw they had been speaking with Ilan. His extension was given on the recording so I left him a message.

Don't forget to sign Rep. Wexler's petition: http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com/
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:03 PM
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30. Did you get through? If not Rodeodance has the Washington no.
I just called that and talked to someone.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:25 PM
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31. NGU kick
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:31 PM
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32. Something Democrats need to think about

Here is something that the cowardly Dems in the House and Senate should be considering. THEY can be held responsible too.




Accessory after the fact



TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 1 >


http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000003----000-.html

Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.
Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:43 PM
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33. K & R n/t
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:52 PM
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34. I wish they would impeach bush and Cheney
but i don't look for it
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Frogger Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 08:16 PM
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37. That's cause
it ain't gonna happen. There's an election year coming up, and they have to consider which way the votes will blow.

This is IMPORTANT stuff. At least to them.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #37
44. I know, I'm told over and over again...
...it ain't gonna happen, but then again, what do we know?
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Frogger Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #44
66. Care for a little bet?
I'm not giving out personal information, so I couldn't collect. Let's not make it money. Make a suggestion.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:58 PM
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35. So, if the prez and his AG engaged in a "criminal conspiracy"
Is Nadler part of the conspiracy? He says, "there’s a prima facie case they engaged in a criminal conspiracy," yet he doesn't think anything should be done about it. Kind of like an accessory, or co-conspirator, after the fact.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 09:48 PM
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42. Right
they are the "enablers" and like what Bush is doing. Or they are cowards. One or the other is no excuse to stay in their jobs since they fail to represent and protect us and our democracy as they swore under oath.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 08:26 PM
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38. Impeachment: as likely as Hillary meeting a war she doesn't like
Those looking for resistance to Bushism are confusing the Democrats with an opposition party.

You don't impeach a leader whose policies you've dutifully supported.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 09:31 PM
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39. Bingo, Voltaire99.
Sadly, you are 100% correct. Every word.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:20 PM
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45. You can't give up.
You need to keep pushing and not worry about what kind of outcome you'll end up with. History is full of examples of people fighting for things that seemed impossible at first and then they came out victorious.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:52 PM
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49. Any impeachment hearings will reveal Democratic complicity in Bush and Cheney's crimes
For instance, Nancy Pelosi was briefed about torture way back in 2002. Not only did she not object to the torture, she was enthusiastic about it.

No wonder Pelosi put impeachment off the table. It was to cover up her own ass!
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 09:38 PM
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40. I applaud these people
Edited on Wed Jan-02-08 09:39 PM by pberq
We must act, rather than give into the voices who say it is no use.

(edited for spelling)
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:21 PM
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46. Exactly.
I applaud them too.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:17 AM
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54. k&r
:kick:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:22 PM
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59. k
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Duncan Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:47 PM
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60. Done.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 02:16 PM
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61. Called Nadler's office --- asking for impeachemnt ---
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 02:33 PM
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62. The time has come. Impeachment is warranted now as well as when they are
our out of office.
Life in prison for committing treason as well as a long laundry list of crimes is waranted above and beyond impeachment.
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wizstars Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:13 PM
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65. Impeach the Prezi-dunce...
...and the Vice Prezi-dunce too!!
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jsmooth995 Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:18 AM
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67. Nadler is a good guy
Jerrold Nadler used to be my representative and even lived on my block.. definitely a standup guy. This may not be feasible but if anyone can get it popping, he might be one of the few.
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