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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:52 PM
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Oil $200 Options Rise 10-Fold in Bet on Higher Crude
Source: bloomberg

Jan. 7 (Bloomberg) -- The fastest-growing bet in the oil market these days is that the price of crude will double to $200 a barrel by the end of the year.

Options to buy oil for $200 on the New York Mercantile Exchange rose 10-fold in the past two months to 5,533 contracts, a record increase for any similar period. The contracts, the cheapest way to speculate in energy markets, appreciated 36 percent since early December as crude futures reached a record $100.09 on Jan. 3.

While analysts at Merrill Lynch & Co. and UBS AG say the slowing U.S. economy will lead to the biggest drop in prices since 2001, the options show some traders expect oil to rise for a seventh straight year. Demand will increase 2.5 percent in 2008, according to the International Energy Agency. U.S. inventories fell to a three-year low on Dec. 28. Production from Mexico is declining and Saudi Arabia is behind schedule in opening its newest field.



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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:55 PM
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1. Just curious...
What is the typical volume of contracts on futures for crude say month-to-month?

Just trying to see where 5,533 stands opposed to typical trading...
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:57 PM
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3. I have no idea
I just found it fascinating that the old 'invisible hand' is starting to bet on $200 oil.
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Captain Angry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:21 PM
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11. None.
Typically, I don't think those contracts exist. But some savvy investors are betting that people will part with their money.

They're running for 2 to 30 cents a barrel. In other words, as the buyer, you decide to throw away $300.00. BUT, if *something* happens, and oil spikes to $200 a barrel, you get to sell $20,000 worth of stuff, and it only cost you those $300.00.

Therefore, it's a huge longshot, the writer gets your $300.00 bet. If oil hits $200 a barrel, they crap themselves, and dish out $20,000. If it hits $199, they giggle and keep your $300.00.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:56 PM
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2. gee, it's not like there is stress in the Straits of Hormuz...
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:59 PM
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4. effect cannot precede cause. not in this universe.
it is that one way time dimension puzzle.

"Options to buy oil for $200 on the New York Mercantile Exchange rose 10-fold in the past two months to 5,533 contracts, a record increase for any similar period."
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:37 PM
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12. Actually, certain people in the region would do well if sabre rattling doubled the price
Ahmadinejad wants to redistribute wealth

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/newsfull.php?newid=76432

Viva Ahm-on-a-jihad ;)
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:33 PM
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5. Bend over and pass out the vaseline. This year can't go by fast enough for me.
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orion9941 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:36 PM
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6. We'll be lucky if they even spit in their hand.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:58 PM
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7. if the Strait of Hormuz closes its we are screwed times
yes 200 a barrell
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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:45 PM
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9. Cruise Control 60 MPH
On Interstate and no need to Import that 16% from Saudi Arabia.

Our OIL Comes From--
Our wells
Canada-
Mexico-
Venezuela
84%
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:40 AM
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16. If the straight closes, $200 will look cheap. nt
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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:43 PM
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8. RICH MAN'S LAS VEGAS CASINO
Wall Street is a false empire of wealth

I bet you one million it will rise. I will take it. My insider says it will drop.

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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:11 PM
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10. Thats just nuckin futz
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:15 PM
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13. $200/bbl oil would be a good thing for alternative energy.
it would make a whole range of energy sources comparatively "affordable"

although peak oil will make the price $200 sooner than many expect, i don't expect that it will hit that price by the end of the year...unless there's like- a war -or something.
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:20 PM
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14. Agreed. The cost of oil makes alternative energy more viable
It also reflects some of the actual cost of oil in terms of pollution/CO2 so higher prices makes the energy playing field more fair and gives alternatives a better chance.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:25 AM
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15. Unfortunately, it would also be "good" for proponents of really BAD energy ...
... oil-shales being the one at the top of my mind at the moment.

When the price goes up like this, it reinforces the case for the
greedy destructive shit-for-brains who support destroying the land,
polluting the water and wasting the energy in order to obtain a
small amount of fuel for their SUVs from grossly inefficient sources
like oil-shales. (Hello Canada? Say goodbye to your natural gas and
freshwater supplies!)

:grr:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:42 AM
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17. Everyone is on this thread so far fails to realize that if oil goes up...
so does food.

so unless you have a garden, belong to a CSA, have stock piled military rations or have some sort of magic pill to fill your stomach everyday, I would be really worried.

Oil rising this fast is the beginning of the end.

Prepare to live lean...really really lean.
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