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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:51 PM
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Judge Won't Inquire Into CIA Tapes Case
Source: ABC News/AP


AP NewsBreak: Judge Refuses to Investigate the Destruction of CIA Interrogation Videos

A federal judge refused on Wednesday to delve into the destruction of CIA interrogation videos, saying there was no evidence the Bush administration violated a court order and the Justice Department deserved time to conduct its own investigation.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Henry H. Kennedy was a victory for the Bush administration, which had urged the courts not to wade into a politically charged issue already being investigated by the Justice Department, CIA and Congress.

The CIA has acknowledged last month that in 2005 it destroyed videos of officers using tough interrogation methods while questioning two al-Qaida suspects. Lawyers for other terrorism suspects quickly asked Kennedy to hold hearings, saying the executive branch had proved itself unreliable and could not be trusted to investigate its own potential wrongdoing.

Kennedy disagreed, ruling that attorneys hadn't "presented anything to cause this court to question whether the Department of Justice will follow the facts wherever they may lead and live up to the assurances it made to this court."

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/wireStory?id=4111069
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:07 PM
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1. Just move on folks
nothing happening here.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:08 PM
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2. scandal #..... that goes nowhere :-(
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:38 PM
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15. Sad, ain't it? nt
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:09 PM
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3. Important development...
Ha! The current DoJ has no credibility. None. Nada.

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:24 PM
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22. you would think that DoJ credibility would factor into the Judges decision--not so.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:10 PM
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4. Why am I not surprised
This bone will be covered up along with the rest of the crimes of the bush administration.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:16 PM
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5. We have about 12 more months of this bullshit..
I'm not sure I can wait that long.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:18 PM
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6. wha wha what!!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:23 PM
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7. Anyone still believe in our system of Justice?
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 06:23 PM by defendandprotect
They have corrupted the entire system ---
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:32 PM
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8. Yet our judicial system can send a man to prison for 8 years
for political reasons. (Then lose the transcript needed for an appeal.)
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:45 PM
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9. Well, surprise... Bushco has stacked the courts, DOJ, etc...
Very likely all crimes will be dismissed and covered-up by all... Sad, sad...
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pdefalla Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:52 PM
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10. So the judge sees the DOJ as impartial?
The DOJ appears to be the political enforcement arm of the executive branch. It's original purpose was to ensure justice for all Americans, it's current use by the Bush administration is to rig elections, push non-compliant Federal attorneys out of their jobs, and act as legal counsel and defense for George Bush and company. You might as well ask Dick Cheney to investigate...
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:55 PM
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11. No Accountability Means America is Lost... Laws are Meaningless
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 07:29 PM by fascisthunter
These types will forever keep doing it, because THEY ARE ALLOWED TO.
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:19 PM
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12. Impeach. Prosecute.
Save America!
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:14 PM
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13. i guess Bush has the Judge in his hip pocket
i guess it's nice to have plenty of money to buy judges off 
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:57 PM
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14. Gee with a crooked POTUS and crooked congress and crooked judiciary, crooked justice and crooked
intelligence and crooked government the truth just has to raise its bloody battered head and win out in the end.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:03 AM
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16. The same judge had ordered them not to destroy any evidence, back in June, 2005.
~snip~
U.S. District Judge Henry H. Kennedy ordered Justice Department lawyers to appear before him Friday at 11 a.m. to discuss whether destroying the tapes, which showed two al Qaeda suspects being questioned, violated a court order.

The Justice Department has urged Congress and the courts to back off, saying its investigators need time to complete their inquiry. Government attorneys say the courts don't have the authority to get involved in the matter and could jeopardize the case.

For now, at least, Kennedy disagreed. Attorneys in unrelated cases, meanwhile, began pressing other judges to demand information about the tapes.

"Just because the judge wants to have a hearing doesn't mean he is going to rule against the government," CBS News chief legal analyst Andrew Cohen said. "But I suspect that federal lawyers are going to have some tap dancing to do in court as they explain how those CIA videotapes could have been destroyed in 2005 when there were questions about whether they fell under the judge's do-not-destroy order."

In June 2005, Kennedy ordered the Bush administration to safeguard "all evidence and information regarding the torture, mistreatment, and abuse of detainees now at the United States Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay."

Five months later, the CIA destroyed the interrogation videos. The recordings involved suspected terrorists Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The Justice Department argued that the videos weren't covered by the order because the two men were being held in secret CIA prisons overseas, not at the Guantanamo Bay prison.

More:
http://cbs5.com/national/CIA.tapes.hearing.2.613415.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Report from December 18th:
Judge Orders Hearing on CIA Videos

Dec 18 11:49 AM US/Eastern
By MATT APUZZO
Associated Press Writer Write a Comment


WASHINGTON (AP) - A federal judge has ordered a hearing on whether the Bush administration violated a court order by destroying CIA interrogation videos of two al-Qaida suspects.
U.S. District Judge Henry H. Kennedy rejected calls from the Justice Department to stay out of the matter. He ordered lawyers to appear before him Friday morning.

In June 2005, Kennedy ordered the administration to safeguard "all evidence and information regarding the torture, mistreatment, and abuse of detainees now at the United States Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay."

Five months later, the CIA destroyed the interrogation videos. The recordings involved suspected terrorists Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The Justice Department argued that the videos weren't covered by the order because the two men were being held in secret CIA prisons overseas, not at the Guantanamo Bay prison.

David Remes, a lawyer who represents a Yemeni national and other detainees, asked for the court hearing. He said the government was obligated to keep the tapes and he wants to be sure other evidence is not being destroyed.

"We want more than just the government's assurances. The government has given these assurances in the past and they've proven unreliable," Remes said. "The recent revelation of the CIA tape destruction indicates that government cannot be trusted to preserve evidence."

The Justice Department and CIA are investigating the destruction of the tapes and have urged Congress and the courts to give them space and time to let them investigate.

Remes urged Kennedy not to comply.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8TJVL4G0&show_article=1&catnum=0

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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:11 AM
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17. Chicken shit judge!
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:19 AM
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18. Who thinks the BFEE mafia issued specific "warnings" to his loved
ones?

Me.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:37 AM
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19. .
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:42 AM
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20. Appointed by Clinton in 1997.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:12 PM
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21. why NOT the Courts--if it is a 'political charges issue'--is the DoJ really the proper venue?
the DoJ and the CIA lied to the Courts about the existence of the tapes!!! But the Judge is going to wash his hands of this!!! IT IS AN OUTRAGE -- BAR ASSOCIATIONS NEED TO MAKE A STINK ABOUT THIS NOW!!
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