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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 04:37 PM
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EU official: IP is personal
Source: Associated Press

IP addresses, string of numbers that identify computers on the Internet, should generally be regarded as personal information, the head of the European Union's group of data privacy regulators said Monday.

Germany's data protection commissioner, Peter Scharr, leads the EU group preparing a report on how well the privacy policies of Internet search engines operated by Google Inc., Yahoo Inc., Microsoft Corp. and others comply with EU privacy law.

He told a European Parliament hearing on online data protection that when someone is identified by an IP, or Internet protocol, address "then it has to be regarded as personal data."

His view differs from that of Google, which insists an IP address merely identifies the location of a computer, not who the individual user is -- something strictly true but which does not recognize that many people regularly use the same computer terminal and IP address.



Read more: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8UAGH901.htm
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 04:39 PM
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1. What about dynamic ISPs?
My Comcast ISP changes every few months.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:03 PM
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2. Comcast can tell them..
who you are from the time period that you had the address.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:13 PM
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4. ...well, I doubt it's who actually is using it
but the fact that someone was using that port a certain time. That port is associated with a physical street address and a billable party on their records. I'd bet it's the same for DSL and dialup.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 06:20 PM
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7. "who you are"=if "you" are paying the bill
Sorry for my general statement.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:06 PM
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10. No prob.
:hi:
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:04 PM
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3. How does this take NAT into account?
Or IPv4 vs IPv6 Protocols?
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:15 PM
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5. I believe so
Your internal address is just masqueraded as the external IP address. Also, in the header data of the IP protocol there is a kind of "count" parameter that ticks off how many NATs a particular packets has gone through.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:17 PM
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6. How is it any different from a phone #
Just a string of digits that identify a phone, not a person. Is a phone # considered personal information?
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:48 PM
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9. I think it would be personal information
at least, in the case of an unlisted number.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 06:43 PM
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8. My IP changes all the time.
Maybe there are not as many dynamic ISP's in Europe.
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 04:13 PM
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11. Scharr has a point--
--Especially since IPv6 will do away with the need for dynamic IP addressing and NAT (because there will be a gazillion IP addresses), network hosts will have static IPv6 addresses. What with spyware and other subterfuge to track movements on the Web, your computer's IP address can acquire a history of visited sites etc. reflecting your personal browsing habits and patterns, just as it may be possible to profile a person based on the phone numbers he or she has called/received on a personal phone. Google knows this very well, so I think their objections are a bit disingenuous.
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