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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 05:59 PM
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Clinton agrees to debate on Fox
Source: USA Today

After joining the Democratic National Committee and the party's other contenders in a boycott of debates sponsored by the Fox network, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign said today that it has accepted an invitation to a Fox forum scheduled for next Monday, The Huffington Post's Sam Stein reports.

But her Democratic rival, Sen. Barack Obama, has not yet done so.



Read more: http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/02/clinton-agrees.html



Another broken agreement?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:02 PM
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1. Another broken agreement?
Yep.

Desperate people do desperate things.

I hope Obama tells her to pound sand, thats far too many debates, it would turn off the voters.

(Which may be part of the Clinton strategy.)
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beachbum bob Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:12 PM
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2. no doubt
another example of hillary saying one thing and doin another...another broken agreeement. I truly hope Obama tells her to debate bill.. why would obama go on foxnoise to be subjected to their crapto the benefit of hillary.

coulter's endorsement has gone to hillary's head. Say or do anything to get elected.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:26 PM
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3. Well, after all Rupert Murdoch held that big fundraiser for her at his home, eom.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:27 PM
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8. BINGO!
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:18 AM
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17. This should be mentioned when Sen. Obama declines
Knowledge of this fund raiser should be more widely disseminated.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:13 AM
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21. Let's hope he does....
NOTHING good can come of it- for either candidate.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:01 PM
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15. Yep, yet another pledge broken.
This one still ticks me off the most, though.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:03 PM
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16. Obama would need to frame it as sticking to his prior pledge.
But the Clinton campaign would *still* spin Obama's refusal to debate/forum on Fox News as Obama being hypocritical, on one hand talking about reaching out and unity while on the other refusing to reach out to Fox Noise viewers.

Chalk up another in Hillary's "do anything" column.
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:37 PM
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4. Hillary Follows the Money to FOX Noise
Remember, Rupert Murdock threw a fundraiser for Hillary early on. Hillary doesn't give a rat's ass about party unity -- Hillary cares about Hillary. For years the rightwing has alleged the Clintons had a thirty year plan to grab the ropes of power and hold them fast. In 1998, I would've and did, say baloney. Not today. I think at least some on the right were correct about the Clintons all along.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:43 PM
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5. given that Obama just appeared on Fox and Friends, I'm not sure why this is a big deal
Frankly, it would make a lot of sense for Obama to agree to go on Fox News (as much as I dislike FOx News) and debate HRC. Obama is presenting himself as someone who can reach across the current divisions and change the tenor of the debate. For both HRC and Obama to go on FOx strikes me as a good move since they aren't going to alienate any of the Fox News viewers, who already almost certainly are disinclined to support them, and they might actually win a few over. Fox News viewers have an almost cartoon-like image of HRC and Obama presented to them on a daily basis by the likes of Hannity, Gibson, Oreilly. Why not go on and show the Fox News viewers what they're really like?
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:05 PM
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13. Indeed--it's not like the two of them couldn't
handle the Faux bobbleheads. They can.

And both of them have been on Faux plenty of times before.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:00 PM
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6. Don't do it Obama
She is comfortable on that network-none of us are
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:45 AM
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25. Then why was Obama
on Fox and Friends?
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:21 PM
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7. FOX will be throwing "the high heat" at her. Obama to remain on the bench ?
She's going to fingerpoint imo
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:28 PM
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9. Where she belongs. They can keep her.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 08:29 PM by superconnected
The great question that I am not clear on but strongly suspect is true, is if Obama belongs there too. It's a corportist sell us out to the higest bidder chip on my shoulder thing...
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:39 PM
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10. Tough predicting what will happen if BO turns this down
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:46 PM
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11. Why shouldn't she debate on Faux?
After all Rupert Murdoch did host a fund raiser for her last year.

You know what they say about birds and feathers....
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:46 AM
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26. His biggest newspaper endored Obama (n/t)
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:59 PM
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12. Paying back the payola Murdock gave her early in the election process, no doubt.
The chicken comes back home to familiar territory to roost. GOD, I'LL BE SO GLAD FOR HILLARY TO RETURN TO THE DUST HEAP OF HISTORY! Arrrggghhhhhhhhhhhhh...

J
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:50 PM
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14. What a shocker. Not.
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:39 AM
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18. Pathetic.
Never fails to remind us how much of a RW appeaser she is.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:05 AM
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19. Poor Hillary....she won't have the $$$ like Obama in moving forward since most of her big donors are
maxed out from their limits, whereas Obama has so many donors who can give even in small amounts adding up big, that the only way that Hillary can get airtime is to be in debates. So there she goes to Fox and then what, hope to make Obama look afraid of debating her? Well, I for one hope that Obama refuses to debate her and have anything to do with Fox ever.
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:10 AM
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20. Why should he waste his time preparing for a debate on FOX.
He has many more states in which to campaign before their primaries.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:48 AM
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22. well, for one thing, some of those states have "open" primaries
in which repubs/independents can vote. And with conservatives bashing McCain, why not go fishing for some additional votes?
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bronxiteforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:52 AM
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23. The New Triangulation Begins
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:29 AM
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24. It was interesting what Chris
Wallace had to say on A Daily Show last night. When he mentioned that Hillary was going to be on, and Stewart asked about Obama, Wallace said that now that she had agreed, it looked probable. Stewart came back and said ( or words to this effect), so it seemed that it was John Edwards who was holding them to it and had held the line all along. To which ( again paraphrase but closer) Wallace replied that at Fox they saw Edwards a little differently as pandering to the far left. The boos he got on that were wonderful and Stewart just cracked up.

I can live with Obama or Hillary, but damn, I wish Edwards was still in it. For that matter, I wish Kucinich was still in it.

disclaimer - I have stopped watching A Daily Show ( among others) until the strike is over, but every now and then I stop for a second when surfing. I also smoked for twenty years and then quit, but every now and then when I could still smoke in a bar or pub. . . ( mea culpa)
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