Look Out, Cleveland: 'Plain Dealer' Endorses Obama

[RamboLiberal]

Source: Editor & Publisher

The largest paper in the (once again) key campaign battleground state of Ohio has endorsed Barack Obama for president.

The state's primary on March 4 may help decide the contest for the Democratic nod.

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Obama's frequent talk of hope strikes some people as naive. It leads others to question his toughness. But Obama understands something his critics do not: Change requires vision and optimism, shared sacrifice and mutual trust. Hope can sustain those elements; a presidency defined by political tactics cannot.

Hillary Clinton is an exceptionally bright and accomplished woman. Only a fool could dispute that. It would be nice if Obama's policy proposals were as meaty as those she has put forward. It's no wonder she wants Democrats to see this race as a choice between resumes.

But in a campaign where history matters, she carries an inordinate amount of baggage. Who wants to relive the soap operas of the 1990s?


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[Skittles]

1. it's a sad fact

the witchhunting done on the Clintons by repukes didn't just sway idiot conservatives - but a lot of Democrats too - including DUers.

[goodgd_yall]

4. Isn't that the truth!

To think the republican hatchet job on Bill Clinton has managed to be seen as truth rather than the Republican dirty tricks that it was---so that even Democrats and progressives of today have bought it. It's sad how naive some people are to not understand or even consider how devious the Neocons have been.

[Skittles]

5. you see it here on DU all the time

"she has so much baggage" they whine. Fucking pathetic.

[ohio2007]

9. Sour grapes

your canidate, Holliary, is going down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1eJL5DR6Rg&feature=related

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4512336

[Skittles]

24. HRC IS NOT MY CANDIDATE

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU? IS IT SOME KIND OF SICKNESS? Watching you Omabaphiles and Hillbots fighting is SICKENING BEYOND BELIEF.

[InkAddict]

16. We've been scuttled out of two Ohio cities by Neocon corporatist

agendas - I'd bet there's a bunch of Clevelanders who have spread out to other cities too, and we're just prayin' for the word for the first one that says he/she will sic the corporatist agenda on its ear. With JE gone...

Poppy and Big Dog's bipartisan coziness gives me the creeps, and I've no tolerance of a love triangle in DC post-November.

Hurray for the PD!

[primavera]

21. What do necons have to do with it?

Are you saying that Hillary didn't really vote to support the use of force against Iraq, or for the Patriot Act, or for the REAL ID Act, or for all of the appropriations bills issuing blank checks to the shrub for his illegal war, that it's really just a neocon smear campaign to suggest that she cast those votes? Odd, it certainly looks like her name on the roll calls.

[PatGund]

20. I don't think so.....

Sen. Clinton brings a lot of negatives on her own, without anyone needing to use the right-wing smears.

[Skittles]

23. bullshit

90% of the slams I hear about her from people around me is media-induced trash

[tabasco]

26. Yes, we Obama supporters are just so unsophisticated.

We are obviously swayed by republican propaganda or we would swear fealty to the Queen.

Those who do not support the Queen are either stupid or insane.

[Skittles]

27. I DO NOT SUPPORT HRC!!

again, what the F*** is wrong with you? Is your entire world divided into Obama-lovers vs Hillary-lovers?????

[tabasco]

28. No, there are McCain lovers and Huckabee lovers too.

There are two Democratic candidates.

If you're not for Obama, pray tell who do you suppport?

[goodgd_yall]

2. Actually, I was thinking if any area in Ohio goes to Obama, it will be Cleveland

No surprise here.

[donheld]

3. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4512336

[cyclezealot]

6. For whether you think it good or bad.

I am pretty dam sure, whatever the Plain Dealer advocates, it will be in the interest of John McCain.

[geiger]

8. they also endorsed McCain, on the R side

It doesn't mean Squat; people don't like to be told how to vote, for one thing. Governor Strickland has also told people to vote for Hillary. It just aint gonna happen in Ohio, esp with the budget in such a mess and the Big G cow-towing to R's in control of the State Legislature. It makes him look more pitiful every day, and they want it that way.

[ohio2007]

10. March 4rth endorsements do not mean November endorsements

PD flip flopped and endorsed no canidate in the last presidential election. I think it was the "no stance" posituion in '00

...rather odd for a die hard solid blue county paper imo

[geiger]

11. I had forgotten they didn't have the guts to endorse last time around....

[bean fidhleir]

15. Let's see, they support Obama and undermine Dennis every chance they get

That seems to say something about Obama's politics.

Doesn't it?

[Kolesar]

7. big thread in the GD:Primaries forum

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4506303

[LiberalHeart]

12. This is the quote in the endorsement that shows how crazy it is...

"It would be nice if Obama's policy proposals were as meaty as those she has put forward."

So they like his, uh, vision thing. But bemoan the lack of substance. Yep, real smart move to push him for prez.

[Rockerdem]

13. Hillary has made a lot of enemies in both parties

You can tell with the endorsements that Hillary has rubbed many in our party raw. The people who do business with her know what she's like behind the scenes.

But the ones that she has alienated the most are the core activists of the party. Voting neo-con on crucial issues will do that.

[juajen]

19. Bullshit!

These are pug talking points. I hate to see them becoming so frequent on this wonderful Democratic Board.

[primavera]

22. Umm, why is it a "pug talking point"

... to suggest that Hillary's voting record gives voters insight into what kind of president she would make? I'm sorry, was I supposed to just listen to her soundbite slogans and disregard her actual record? Actions speak louder than words, and never moreso than in the case of politicians running for office. And, I'm sorry if you find it offenseive, but Hillary's voting record has consistently reflected certain values and priorities which not everyone in the Democratic Party shares.

[ryanmuegge]

14. The soap operas that you (the media) created with your tabloid coverage?!

There are a lot of substantive things for which the Clintons can be criticized (take this post, for example, http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3174057&mesg_id=3174424), but anybody who believes that the media isn't particularly rough on the Clintons isn't paying attention. Everything that the Clintons do is covered in a tabloid-style manner. They create the beast that they're complaining about.

Consider this hypothetical example: if Cheslea Clinton would have been caught in public doing the stuff that the Bush Twins did a couple years ago, there would be BREAKING! Fox news alerts every 25 seconds.

[Doctor_J]

17. DO newspaper endorsements mean ANYTHING?

The Chicago Tribune endorses repukes for every office every election cycle, and yet IL continues to be solidly blue. People have cuaght on to the fact that the newspapers are run/edited by ultra-right partisans and are of little value, opinion-wise. PD will endorse McCain in November, as will 80-90% of the dailies. Big deal.

[cyclezealot]

18. yes no depends

news papers in MT were supposed to have been a huge factor in it's voting in newly elected senator, John Tester. Last minute endorsement changed this squeeker race that had been favoring the corrupt Repuke

[fshrink]

25. Naivete?

One can easily paint moral courage as such, and, in so doing, projecting as a defect on the other one's own lack thereof.
Really, are there people out there believing that anyone can make it at any level of responsibility, senatorial or even mayoral while being naive?