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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:06 PM
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Gold soars to record high of $995.20 an ounce
Source: CBS Marketwatch

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Gold futures closed with strong gains, after hitting $995.20 an ounce Wednesday, boosted by ongoing investment flows into commodities, a rally in crude oil and dollar weakness.

Gold for April delivery rallied $22.20 to end at $988.50 an ounce on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Earlier it surged to a record high of $995.20 an ounce.

Silver and copper futures also rallied.

"We've got the stock market back up, and as such, the trade is flowing back into gold," said Zachary Oxman, a senior trader at Wisdom Financial.

"Dollar weakness and the huge crude rally are helping as well," Oxman said.

Read more: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/gold-soars-record-high-99520/story.aspx?guid=%7B515721B3%2D4EE8%2D4557%2DA0E2%2DE1CF18236DDF%7D&dist=sp_inthis
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:08 PM
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1. And the U.S. dollars falls to new lows
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:22 PM
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2. Dollar .65 and dropping to the Euro...
Time to buy some more mining stocks.
BHN
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Bilbo Heugan Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:11 PM
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8. $1000 is a nice round number. "Investors" like nice round numbers
to tell them when to reverse course. That's on the one hand.

On the other hand, where will it be on the morning we wake up and find out our government has just devalued our currency by 50% to restore balance?
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:24 PM
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3. Damn, I wish I had some gold
I remember just a few years ago when people said saving in gold was the province of loonies. :evilgrin:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:47 PM
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5. I bought 4 ounces in 2003.....
when it was around $380 an ounce I think, just to have something around the house in case everything went down the crapper. When it got over $500 an ounce I sold it because I thought it would NEVER hold that price. :cry: I "misunderestimated" the reverse Midas touch of George Bush. Everything he touches turns directly to shit. Man.......I could have been a "thousandaire" now! :banghead: DOH!
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singilarpoint Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:23 PM
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22. Don't feel bad!!!
Back then I was telling everyone to go buy gold. So what did I not do? Go buy gold. I always give great advice, I just never follow it!!!!!!!!!!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:00 PM
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7. How to know when to buy gold
When it's not being pushed in newspaper and AM radio ads, and the price has been relatively stable for a few years. Then you buy a little and don't plan on having it appreciate in the near future. Eventually another cycle will push prices to ridiculous levels, then you sell.

Right now about 2/3 of the price of gold is based in fear and panic. Buying it now is essentially betting that things are going to get a lot worse.

I really don't believe that's the case. Two of the biggest factors - The housing "crisis" and the high cost of energy - tend to correct themselves. Housing prices WILL come down and people WILL conserve energy.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:33 PM
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25. The precious metal prices are rising
due mainly to institutional investors looking to hedge their bets. Instead of purchasing the actual metal (like coins) better to invest in metal stocks like GLD and SLV.

Also, the housing market is not going to "correct itself", we are heading towards a market meltdown like we have never seen. Read up on mortgage derivatives and the monolines.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:36 AM
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30. I read yesterday that due to the rolling blackouts in south africa...
the gold mines have had less power to operate, thus driving up the price of gold.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:28 AM
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31. Supply is certainly a factor
and demand is up in India and several other countries in that region.

There is some profit taking today so far--GLD is down 1% and SLV down 1.85%.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:21 PM
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10. Silver is still affordable- go for it! It's going to keep going up.
I bought silver @ 6.24 an ounce. It is now over 20.00
and will continue to value in my estimation.

BHN
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:26 PM
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15. Yep. You got it BHN!
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 06:33 PM by utopiansecretagent
I already own both gold and silver, but for those who are interested, I wouldn't buy it all at once now at this price.

Maybe a little now, wait and see if there's a correction (there ought to be one soon), and then buy some more.

Silver is "poor man's gold", but it works just the same. Many surmise it will continue to outperform gold's rise percentage-wise.

Silver Eagles/Maples are best. Bars with a mint mark are good too.

Here is one well known reputable dealer (good prices):

www.apmex.com

For larger purchases ($2000 or more=best prices):
www.golddealer.com

I have purchased from both.



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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:03 PM
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21. I bought Maples and Philharmonics- Monex
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 07:03 PM by BeHereNow
I like my guy at Monex- I think they are pretty good
to deal with too. I'm wishing I had moved more
assets into metal now, not to mention euros...
BHN

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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:27 PM
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11. If you had it, would you sell it right now?
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:41 PM
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13. I would!
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 05:41 PM by Hydra
Not because it's smart, but because it would pay the bills! :evilgrin:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:41 PM
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18. My friend says; "Sell it when EVERYBODY WANTS IT!"
Buy it when NOBODY wants it.

I've got some ugly 80's style
jewelry in a safe deposit box around I should
probably sell.....
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:51 PM
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20. I wish I had bought some platinum back when it was $380/oz in the late '90s...
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 06:51 PM by benEzra
it closed at $2252.00/oz today.

:wow:
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:27 PM
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4. It's OK! The stock market went up today!
Nothing to see here!

:eyes:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:56 PM
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6. I sold some of mine yesterday
Got paid $942 for a Canadian Maple Leaf coin that my late stepfather paid about $275 for.

Also got $188.50 each for two 10-ounce silver bullion bars that I bought when it was around $4 per ounce.
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raincity_calling Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:12 PM
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9. Where do sell those things?
Do you sell them at a coin shop?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 05:38 PM
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12. Yes, most coin shops deal in bullion
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 05:41 PM by slackmaster
The only shitty part of my experience was that on display right next to where they handed me my check was a 1913 US Eagle $10 gold piece, the one with the cool reverse relief Indian chief. A coin I have wanted since I was a small child, and only $700.

Here is the $2.50 quarter eagle from that year.

http://www.holeycoins.com/images/1913-$2.5.jpg

Bastards. The only thing that stopped me from buying it was that I had already earmarked some of the money for a very nice M1903-A3 Springfield military rifle, vintage 1944.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:16 PM
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28. Bela Lyon Pratt's incuse design...one of the best ever.
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 10:17 PM by roamer65
"BLP" just below the Indian's neck are his initials. I have a $5 and $2.50.

My thing is Liberty Head and St-Gaudens $20 Double Eagles.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:24 PM
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14. My advice for the little guy
Don't want to dish out about $1060. for a gold coin. You do pay a premium when you buy one. Buy a buck or two, face value, pre1964 silver coins every once in a while. Right now I'm buying up Forever Stamps, $41./hundred. Postage goes up plus inflation. You'll never lose on them. In 10 years you'll at least double your money. One doesn't have to have a ton of $ to invest. A little here and a little there adds up. I sold a few gold coins last month to buy a "good deal" used car. So, it really only cost me half the 2008 price. In case it goes down, I did make out. Time it so you only sell when it's higher than you paid for it. Good luck.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:32 PM
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16. Record high, my butt. Why does everyone forget about inflation?
In 1980 gold was at about $680 per ounce.

That's over $1700 in today's dollars.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:44 PM
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23. It's the same reason why CNBC, et al love talking "points"
when all that really matters are percentages.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:37 PM
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26. Stupid question, but
What's the formula for calculating then dollars to today's dollars. Just curious.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:57 PM
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29. I don't know if there's a definitive "formula"...
But I use an application on my Palm called InflationMaster. "InflationMaster uses actual inflation data published by the United States Federal Reserve and takes into account years with high inflation, years with low inflation even deflationary years."

I googled around a bit for you, and found this, which suggests that this application might be using the Consumer Price Index to come up with its results. However, there are other methods, too:

Six Ways to Compute the Relative Value of a U.S. Dollar Amount, 1790 - 2007
http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:38 PM
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17. I'm going gold.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:02 PM
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32. Today's (thurs) not a bad day to get in
GLD is down 1.3%, SLV down 2.87%
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khaos Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:43 PM
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19. still has a long way to go
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:06 PM
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24. Of course it did. The dollar is well on it's way to being worthless toilet paper.
The bankrupt money of a morally, intellectually, and economically bankrupt Empire.

We're no Rome, that's for damned sure. More like a bigger version of Ferdie Marcos' Phillipnes.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:05 PM
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27. We have now set a record 17% M3 money supply growth.
Gold will be $2000/ounce before we know it.
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