House Fails To Override Bush's Veto On CIA Waterboarding Bill

[Purveyor]

Source: Associated Press

(03-11) 16:04 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --

House Democrats have failed in their attempt to overturn President Bush's veto of a bill that would have prohibited the CIA from using waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques on terrorist suspects.

Bush had vetoed the bill on Saturday. House Democrats could not muster the two-thirds majority they needed Tuesday to force the bill into law despite the veto. It would have limited the CIA to the 19 interrogation method approved by the U.S. military.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/03/11/national/w150437D16.DTL

[xchrom]

1. ...

:grr: :nuke: :grr:

[saigon68]

16. Spineless Scumbags

[xchrom]

17. oh it's infuriating, isn't it? -- it doesn't get any simpler than this. nt.

[Demeter]

31. 51 Votes Isn't Even Close

What gives in the House?

[NoodleyAppendage]

2. Please list the names of the TRAITOROUS DEMS who didn't vote to override.

We need to weed out the turncoat scum that have infiltrated the party of Jefferson.

J

[Supersedeas]

26. that's what I want to know too!!

[CBHagman]

38. I'm trying to find a website that lists the breakdown of votes.

Thus far there is incomplete information regarding how members voted. The Washington Post's summary contains a partial list of votes (with all Democrats listed voting in favor of the bill).

Congress's website, Thomas:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:H.R.2082:

The Post's link:

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/house/2/votes/117/


Project Vote Smart's link, which doesn't seem to have the breakdown yet either:

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?cs_id=17680

If anyone can find a news story with the breakdown, I'm interested.

[pinto]

3. Ugh. n/t

[SpiralHawk]

4. What would Jesus do? Vote to override the heinous, evil Commander AWOL veto

Jesus Christ has direct, personal experience with Evil Doers who were into torture.

[happygoluckytoyou]

5. BOYCOTT THE OLYMPICS 2008.... for the Chinese use TORTURE

and wouldn't it be a great statement for millions of americans to show their distain for torture...

and PUT ON THE SPOT those who .... well.... will be on the spot!!!

[cbayer]

10. US dropped China from list of top human rights abusers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3221120

[Baby Snooks]

6. A sad day...

Hopefully after November the Democratic Congress will have the 2/3 majority to override a president. Regardless of who the president is.

A Democratic Congress less the Democrats who voted against the override if they're on the ballot. If not, then next time.

Any Democrat who would support this president and this administration is nothing less than a Jew for Hitler.

[jmowreader]

24. Hopefully after November we won't need it

What we need is a president, of either party but preferably a Democrat, who won't come up with stupid shit.

[ramapo]

7. Useless, absolutely useless

Between the spineless Dems in office, and the thoroughly disgusting primary goings-on, I'm about ready to pack it in.

The prospects of anything getting better in this country grow dimmer by the minute. The party is on track to implode into millions of little pieces that the Republicans will be more than happy to pick up.

[fascisthunter]

8. I Have Very Little Respect or Faith in This Government Of Ours

and promise to be a serious pain in their asses for it. We need a massive march ..... I'm talkin' about millions marching and shutting DC down.

Every Senator or Congressman willing to allow torture should be willing to have it done to them first.

[Thepricebreaker]

23. Sure.. they will do that... in between downloading from itunes and coffee at starbucks,... n/t

[LynnTheDem]

9. Slight adjustment needed...

House Fails America.

[lovuian]

11. Yes we need the list of everybody's name that refused to

vote against the veto

they are war criminals

[George II]

12. So, it's a standstill....

Let's hope the Democrats in the House stick together and NO bills will pass! How will that look to Americans when BUSH is the one stonewalling?

[Pastiche423]

13. How they voted...

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll117.xml

Three Dems voted NAY:

Kucinich ???

Waters ???

Marshall

WTF? Does anyone understand why Kucinich and Waters voted NAY?

[Gonnuts]

19. First thing tomorrow ...

call goes in to DK ... I want to know WTF he's thinking?

[Pastiche423]

21. When you find out

will you please post it here, in this thread?

[Ahpook]

20. I really trusted Kucinich, now he's fucking up too?

It's darker and darker daily in this country.

I am actively taking measures to get out of this jacked up shit hole of a country, ASAP.

Let the freaks have it and all their stupid followers wishing for a Dictator. Those fuckers will get exactly what they want and i bet it will not be what they thought it was.

Fuck this country

[humbled_opinion]

28. Exactly cause when they start coming in an torturing us citizesn,

Because we say something that they don't want to hear. Because maybe we don't necessarily agree with everything that the government says is good for us. When any dissent is met with torture and at that point it is goin gto be too late my friend.

[Ahpook]

37. You know, luckily i have nothing to lose right now.

It is a good time for me to get out. I don't mean to burden anyone, just vent a bit.

My wife passed away because she couldn't get a operation she needed. The insurance company had a new reason constantly why they could not approve of her treatment. All bullshit.

My best friend in the world (13 year old Lab) just passed away as well.

It's as if a new start is screaming at me? :)

Matter of fact, a good buddy of mine owns a charter business and sails all over when he can. He has been begging me to cruise with him. Think i am going this time.

I am vented. All i can do at this point:)

[Supersedeas]

27. hmmmm

[coljam]

14. What a Country

Torture someone to death and its fine....fuck someone for money and they want to put you in jail.:)

[humbled_opinion]

29. Hmmm

Next thing you know we will all be getting fucked to death.

[Gonnuts]

15. ... one way to demoralize a people ...

is to continually bring their hopes up and then crushing them, over and over again ...

I'm not so sure I despise the Democratic Party as much as the Republican Party now, at least you know exactly where Republicans are coming from ...

[hootinholler]

18. So. Sad. So. Many. Levels.

:cry:

-Hoot

[LogicalOne]

22. 2/3rds majority required -- Dems don't have it, yet

But, why did Kucinich, Waters, and Marshall vote 'Nay' on overriding the veto?

This is wierd. I didn't have the chance to watch - was watching hearings, but can anyone explain this?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2008-117&sort=party

[Judi Lynn]

25. There's absolutely no excuse for this. Not ever.

Hope someone will see an explanation from the Democrats who voted "nay" on this and post it. That should be choice reading.

[cqo_000]

30. Kucinich voted nay !?

What is up with that ???????

[choie]

32. I just looked at the roll call

and it looks like Maxine Waters voted against overriding the veto - is that goddamn possible??????

[lovuian]

33. its possible YES I can not believe how scared the Congress is

of these dictators ...Congress is a sham

[choie]

34. But

MAXINE WATERS????????????????????????????:argh:

[choie]

35. from what I just read

Kucinich and Waters voted against it because "it wasn't strong enough"

[Ahpook]

36. Is this what he said in his press release?

I did notice he was going to make one and explain his reason. As if there could be one?

And that's it?

I feel like i am trying to run in a nightmare.. you just can't.