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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:22 PM
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Colombia 'seizes Farc uranium'
Source: al Jazeera

Colombia has seized at least 30kg of uranium obtained by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Farc), officials say.

A Colombian defence ministry statement said informants led officials to the uranium stash along a roadside in the capital, Bogota, on Wednesday.

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Bogota said information about the uranium was found in computer files obtained following a cross-border raid into Ecuador, which killed Raul Reyes, a senior Farc commander, and several other fighters.

The March 1 raid sparked a major diplomatic crisis in the region, with Ecuador and Venezuela temporarily breaking diplomatic ties with the Colombian government, led by Alvaro Uribe, and sending troops to their Colombian borders.



Read more: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A14058E0-BC7A-428C-9690-E7A8AC213946.htm
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:24 PM
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1. Colombia says rebels launch new attack
Marxist rebels hiding in Ecuador launched explosives at Colombian anti-cocaine workers across the border, Colombia's government said on Wednesday, increasing already high tensions between the Andean neighbors.

The guerrillas shot makeshift bombs made from cooking gas cylinders at coca eradicators last week as they pulled up the illicit plants on Colombian territory, Foreign Minister Fernando Araujo said.

"No government can stand by with its arms crossed while its citizens are being attacked from the other side of the border," Araujo said. "We ask the Ecuadorean authorities to please help us. We should each coordinate security in our own territory."

No one was killed in the incident but Colombia complains that neighbors Ecuador and Venezuela do not do enough to help combat the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, which funds its four-decade-old insurgency with the cocaine trade and has set up camps inside Ecuadorean territory.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411366/1664169
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:33 PM
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2. Riiight
If I had 30kg of uranium, stashing it along a roadside would be my first choice for a hiding place! Not!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:38 PM
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3. I'll bet they have some Yellow Cake too, hidden in a tree stump somewheres. nt
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:38 PM
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4. That they purchased from Niger!
:rofl:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:10 PM
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11. More likely Betty Crocker,
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 02:12 PM by Uncle Joe
Edit for P.S. No slam intended against Duncan Hines.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:43 PM
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5. sure they did
and i suppose in a week they'll say it was from IRAN?
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:53 PM
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6. And they got it from Chavez!
:crazy:
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:57 PM
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7. How did Saddam get all that Uranium to Columbia undetected?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 01:10 PM
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8. At the end of the article they give it away- it's DEPLETED URANIUM.
  As in, this is what the United States itself actively uses in munitions.

  Depleted Uranium is to "Uranium" is what Zima is to Everclear.

PB
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 01:11 PM
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9. One small correction
"the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, which funds its four-decade-old insurgency with the cocaine trade..."

What they should have said was "the Government of Columbia, their private death-squads and the CIA who train and equip them, which fund their war on working people in the Third World and minorities in the US with the cocaine trade..."

No doubt the CIA's PR wing was having trouble with stories about union leaders being fed into meat grinders, so a little "heat" had to be generated to swing the news cycle their way.

Either that or it's plan B on fabricating cause for war against Chavez, since the Ecuadorian incursion trick didn't work out as planned.

Notice the source was the infamous "FARC" laptop...

:rofl:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:03 PM
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10. They still haven't found the time in their busy schedule to share the PROOF their documents
are real, after all!

Time's a'wastin'.

Right-wingers assume we all have short attention spans, like their own troll hordes, and will forget about it in a heartbeat.

Don't think that's the case!
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darue Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:13 PM
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12. bullshit - I don't believe this for a second.
no fucking way does FARC want to screw around with uranium. total bullshit.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:24 PM
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13. The Bush junta has several war scenarios set up, to grab Venezuela's and Ecuador's
oil, but I am most worried about their backdoor strategy via Bolivia. Bolivia has a white separatist movement that intends to split off the gas/oil-rich rural provinces from the central government of Evo Morales--the first indigenous president of Bolivia (a largely indigenous country), and a Chavez ally--to deny benefit of those resources to the poor majority. The Bush-U.S. has been funding--and no doubt arming and advising--these rich landowners, who may declare their "independence" this May (in a constitutional dispute that is coming to a head), and may request U.S. military support for their "independence." This is one of the scenarios that I think Donald Rumsfeld had in mind, when he urged "swift action" by the U.S. in support of "friends and allies" in South America (Washington Post op-ed, by Rumsfeld, 12/1/07). The Bushites do not have any "friends and allies" in South America, who might require ""swift action"--except for the fascist thugs running Colombia, and the fascists planning coups within resource-rich countries like Bolivia, Venezuela and Equador.

The split-up of Bolivia will cause a major fracas in South America, and if the U.S. puts boots on the ground in support of the white separatists, Bolivia's strongest allies, Venezuela, Ecuador and Argentina, could be drawn in. It is clearly Rumsfeld & co.'s intention to draw them into a hot war. This would be the best way to do it--since Chavez is onto their game, and helped defuse the situation between Colombia and Ecuador. Colombia would then attack Venezuela and Ecuador--on some such fabricated excuse as this (depleted uranium!)--thus dividing their attention, and making them less able to help out Evo Morales. The Bushite goal would be, first of all, to gain some strategic ground in the Andes region--such as an armed fascist enclave in eastern Bolivia. They have little such ground. Ecuador's president, Rafael Correa, has pledged not to renew the lease for the U.S. military base in Manta, Ecuador, when it expires in 2009. And he may act on that sooner, if he can prove that the U.S. violated its lease agreement in the recent U.S./Colombia bombing/incursion against Ecuador. The Manta base is only supposed to be used for "war on drugs" operations.

Paraguay is having a presidential election this year, in which the leftist (the "bishop of the poor," Fernando Lugo) is ahead in the polls. His victory could limit Bushite options, as to the U.S. air base in Paraguay (near the Bolivian separatist provinces). Peru--although temporarily bought off with "free trade" and run by a corrupt, Bush-backed government--would be loathe to get entangled on the U.S./Colombia side of a hot war, given its leftist neighbors (Bolivia, Ecuador, Chile and Brazil), and its majority leftist population. Peru would not likely give overt support to U.S./Colombia hostilities. There are, however, U.S. forces, and bases, in Panama and in the Caribbean, that the Bushites could use, but, for moving U.S. troops and mercenaries, and Colombian military and paramilitary forces, around, they need landing rights, or over-the-ground transit routes. A militarized, fascist chunk of Bolivia would greatly enhance their ability to harass, destabilize and gain control over the southern end of the Boliviarian revolution (Bolivia, Argentina and--if Lugo is elected--Paraguay).

For these and other reasons, I think Rumsfeld's "Oil War II: South America" will start (or enter its hot phase) in Bolivia. Venezuela and Ecuador are perfectly able to handle U.S./Colombian plotting, propaganda, and psyops, and military incursions in their border areas. But a combined assault on the northern and southern ends of their democracy/social justice revolution will be a lot more difficult. Brazil may be a big factor in keeping the peace. Brazil's president, Lula da Silva--a former steelworker--is a friend of Hugo Chavez, and has often defended him against Bushite attacks. (Among other things, he said that "you can criticize Chavez on a lot of things, but not on democracy.") I think the overwhelmingly leftist trend in South America, and the various alliances among these leftist democratic countries and their leaders, will hold. But there is no question in my mind that the Bushites are going to put it to the test, this year. They've tried every dirty trick in the book to stop this leftist trend in our hemisphere and restore corporate control of the oil. None of it has worked. And they are losing ground. So now they're going to try force.

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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:05 AM
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18. can you 'journal' this post?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:44 PM
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14. "information about the uranium was found in computer files "
That would be the Magic Laptop that survive unscathed, fight?

This is a stinky stinky story.
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Andrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 07:25 PM
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22. it's going to indict us all, I tells ya!


From www.borev.net (much, much more about the magical laptop there)
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:47 PM
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15. Treaty of Tlatelolco
The Treaty for the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons in Latin America (also known as the Treaty of Tlatelolco) has been signed and ratified by all 33 nations in the region. It was the first time such a ban was imposed in a densely populated area. The treaty was spearheaded by Alfonso García Robles, a Mexican diplomat and advocate of nuclear disarmament, and the co-recipient with Alva Myrdal of Sweden of the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1982.

Under the Tlatelolco Treaty, the nations of Latin America have agreed to prohibit and prevent the "testing, use, manufacture, production or acquisition by any means whatsoever of any nuclear weapons" and the "receipt, storage, installation, deployment and any form of possession of any nuclear weapons."

Compliance with the Treaty obligations is overseen by the Agency for the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons in Latin America and the Caribbean (OPANAL), based in Mexico City.

If the Columbia gov. charges have any iota of truth to them, which is highly doubtful given their track record in the truth department, they need to file a complaint directly to OPANAL, rather than try to create a source for more yellow journalism against FARC and by indirect implication, Venezuela and Chavez.

I'm sure OPANAL and the government of Mexico would be the first to investigate and denouce FARC if any of this BS story was true. The fact is that there has been no independent confirmation of this, and moreover, the fact the FARC has a track record of using fairly primitive weapons in its guerrilla warfare strategies, i.e., using propane gas cylinders for improvised PRGs, this would tend to make those charges seem rather implausible.

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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:40 PM
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16. Depleted uranium can be obtained from aircraft scrapyards in the US
Some models of the Boeing 747 used it for ballast.

I've no doubt that 30 kg. of it was found along a road in Bogota.

But who put it there?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:47 PM
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17. No doubt it was the same guy who sent the deadly anthrax letters to Democratic legislators,
and landed an intimidating threat to the press with another one, in Florida.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:13 AM
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19. 66 pounds???
um, no. it would be so hot that you would be able to almost detect if from space.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:21 PM
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20. Very sensible statement given to AFP by the FARC:
A FARC statement issued after the raid dismissed Bogota's uranium allegations.

"Only developed countries like the United States and others have the required conditions and technology to process uranium, and not a guerrilla group that is still fighting for the dignity of a people with rifles and even sticks," it said.
(snip)

From DU'er magbana's post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x3075
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:32 PM
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21. Holeee Gawwwd, let's invade!
Now we know why U.S. house prices are falling! It's due to the deadly rays of the yoorain'em terrists!
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