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Nightjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:28 AM Original message |
80 Year Old Man Arrested For Anti War Shirt |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. Holy crap. Do the mall's lawyers know what security is doing? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Mall security guards are typically not experts on civil rights |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Hope the local chapter of the ACLU gets involved in this. The question |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. At best (for them) it would force the mall to take a position on the war |
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WritersBlock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Their position on the war is obvious to me by the fact he was asked to do something about the shirt |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. It depends on how they respond to it from here out |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. No, that is the rent-a-cop's position on the war, not the mall's position. |
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WritersBlock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. That's why I said, "Unless they issue a statement to the contrary..." |
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Public though it looks the mall |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. This is why we need to force laws upon the corporations that say they ARE public space. |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. F-n right on! I'm not going to flame you... nt |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. No Flames Here... |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. "I'm so very very sorry" |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Corporations need to be stripped of their "Personhood". |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
57. Enough with the corporate personhood crap. Your problem is with |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
76. Then the community would have to take on the costs of upkeep and |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
79. I may be mistaken but I heard that the SCOTUS did give |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. Really? Do You Have Any SCOTUS Decisions To Cite... |
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. No. DO you? |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Can You Read? |
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Until someone takes this up to the SC of the US |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
77. Free speech rights apply at malls |
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I have never seen a picket line on private property |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. I have walked picket lines on private property |
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. We were advised to remain on the easement. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. We were told not to block the door; that was it. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Not in New York |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
56. He may not, but I do. |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. I'll Read Them. -NT- |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
87. I Was Going To Admit I Was Wrong On This, But... |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Security guards are generally wannabe cops... |
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Akoto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'd say that mall just set itself up for a lawsuit. n/t |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. Yes. |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. What's unbelievable is that they didn't taze him. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
69. Ah, pimply-faced Sgt Rock-wannabe rent-a-cops with tazers. |
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classykaren (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
7. Now this needs to be on National news n/t |
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Freedomofspeech (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
8. Let's send the mall security guards to Iraq.... |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
68. oops |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
9. Wow, some posters including me are from that area!!! |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
55. Off topic, but |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I know that Art. Thanks. |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
11. You gotta watch out for those 80 year olds! |
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Naipes (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
12. Power Trippin' Mall Security Guard |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
15. Stamping out terror one Octagenarian at a time |
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Kare (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #15 |
71. LOL |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
16. private property and they set the rules |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Really? See Posts 22 and 34. -NT- |
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sansatman (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
17. Texas Prosecutes Little Old Ladies for Voter Fraud |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
18. We no longer have public streets but corporate owned malls. |
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ozu (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
19. yeah |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Bullshit. |
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ozu (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. ummm |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
20. Another case that will get thrown out of court |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
22. The charges will be dismissed. Cases for freedom of speech in malls have all vindicated the ... |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Step Two: Massive Lawsuit |
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Kare (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #23 |
72. Why picket? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Thanks -- good background. nt |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
25. What a hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
27. Definite nominee for Olbermann's Worst Persons |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
36. Idiots. Guy is going into Mall to SPEND MONEY |
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Razorblade01 (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
37. This Practice Will hopefully End Soon! |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
41. IN AN IMPORTANT RELATED STORY....... |
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Olney Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. And McCain is almost 80 as well. |
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eib1 (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
42. The degenerate thugs. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
44. What a silly thing to get arrested for. |
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NeoConsSuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
47. wonder if the owners of that mall |
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NeoConsSuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Here is a link to the Crossgates incident |
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Hotler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
48. all the while kkkarl rove walks.. |
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buckrogers1965 (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
50. t-shirt policy |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Yes they tried to do that in my town |
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Olney Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. The T-shirt simply stated a fact. Would a concert schedule be verboten? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
54. Send an anti-war message to the Smith Haven Mall- is the largest public U.S. real estate CO!! |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. kicking your reply -- will contact them. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. No kidding and why weren't the pro-war people removed too? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. well -- i'm gonna have somethin to say. |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
60. Man they are such Sick Fucks |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
63. Now.... |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
64. How do you fucking resist arrest in a wheelchair? n/t |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
66. Kicking...send that mall a fax or an e-mail! |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
67. I wonder if the mall owner has the right to refuse service to anybody he wants |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
70. From wikipedia: |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
83. not a fan of shopping mall developers & these are really big fish. Sue the hell out of them! |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
73. Can corporate America regulate our speech? |
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JPZenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
74. Strange that police arrested, mall owner must be angry |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
75. 80 years old--I thought maybe it would be an anti WWII t shirt. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
81. This is legal in New York |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
82. I would be suing the mall and give the proceeds to Feingold & Co |
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