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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 11:38 AM
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3rd-Graders Accused Of Plot To Hurt Teacher
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 11:41 AM by sinkingfeeling
Source: News4 in Jacksonsville, Florida

WAYCROSS, Ga. -- As many as nine third-grade students got together and plotted to harm their teacher, even going so far as to bring handcuffs and a knife to school, Waycross police said.

Martin said the plot was uncovered when one student saw a knife in the backpack of another student.

"It's shocking that they would think of this at their young age. I think that is probably the most shocking part for all of us," Martin said.

In addition to the knife being found, the school officials said other students had duct tape, handcuffs, ribbon and a heavy crystal paperweight.

Read more: http://www.news4jax.com/news/15755299/detail.html



OK, our violence-ladden culture is getting out of hand. 8 and 9 year-olds planning and plotting to 'hurt' their teacher over a time out?

Just saw this one as well: "Police: First-Grader Brought Loaded Handguns To School" - RANDALLSTOWN, Md

"One of the guns was a 9 mm Kahr handgun, and the gun in the boy's locker was a .40-caliber Glock handgun, according to investigators."

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/15760763/detail.html



Edited to add second story.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 11:51 AM
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1. It's the Golden Rule of America. Might Makes Right!
Our media glamorizes torture and murder while every attempt to use diplomacy is shown to fail. Even our pResident has pushed this rule with our invasion of Iraq and future Iran invasion.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:00 PM
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2. I'd blame popular culture first
Music, movies and television are more likely to be influencing 1st and 3rd graders than anything else.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:03 PM
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3. I blame them all equally.
Media, including popular culture, hypes it but so do parents who have learned it from their youth. These two factions combine to elect politicians who help legitimize it. Vicious circle, really.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:04 PM
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4. pop-culture feeds off reality
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:36 PM
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13. Please.
Those things are the product of society, not the cause of it.

The main influence on a child at this age is not cartoons. It's not comic books or music or any of that. It's their parents. And hten the parents look around for something to blame, because as we know all parents are flawlessly perfect and suited to raising children, so it MUST be Bugs Bunny!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:46 PM
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14. I'd say their parents are more likely to be influencing kids than anything else. (nt)
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:12 PM
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5. Gulag for all of the little creeps
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:13 PM
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6. seems that if this is true then the third graders learned that
conspirators win. but that is only true when the conspirators hold the reigns of power by controlling all the political parties and options.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:26 PM
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7. I Don't Know, I Was Pretty Young When I Heard the Song
"Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school.
We have tortured all the teachers, we have broken every rule,
We are marching to the office to destroy the principal..."
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:31 PM
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8. By the way...
This may be slightly off- subject, but we were listening to The Last Waltz while driving around Lake Tahoe yesterday.

That album cover in your post reminded me of that.

Anyway...
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:21 PM
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24. Ah, yes...
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 07:21 PM by mcscajun
...the Classics. :rofl: I haven't heard (or thought of) that one in years!

Of course, we laughed when we sang that...we didn't make plots to do it. It was all about blowing off steam and we knew it. I went to a Catholic grammar school in the late 50s-early 60s, and we were raised on fear and guilt. Even thumbtacks on a chair would have been Unthinkable by us.

These kids scare me. :scared:
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 11:38 PM
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27. I Found That I Was Unfamiliar with the Best Version, Though
"I bopped her on the bean with a rotten tangerine" is not nearly as strong as "I nailed her at the door with a smokin' 44."
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:56 AM
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28. I'm with you; I'd never heard the .44 version.
Yikes.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:46 PM
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:31 PM
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10. Stupid little fucks.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:35 PM
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11. Our plan in 6th grade involved thumb tacks and superglue.
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 01:36 PM by libnnc
Knives? Handcuffs? :scared:

Some angry kids out there.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:48 PM
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12. ATTENTION CLUELESS PARENTS
"24" and "Dexter" are not appropriate viewing options for your children. Parenting requires that you actually pay attention to what your children are doing.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:48 PM
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15. That kind of parent doesn't deserve to call themselves a parent. (nt)
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:46 PM
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16. Cops: 3rd-graders Aimed To Hurt Teacher
Source: Associated Press

Cops: 3rd-graders Aimed To Hurt Teacher

By RUSS BYNUM, Associated Press Writer
1 minute ago

WAYCROSS, Ga. - A group of third-graders plotted to attack their teacher, bringing a broken steak knife, handcuffs, duct tape and other items for the job and assigning children tasks including covering the windows and cleaning up afterward, police said Tuesday.

The plot involving as many as nine boys and girls at Center Elementary School in south Georgia was a serious threat, Waycross Police Chief Tony Tanner said. School officials alerted police Friday after a pupil tipped off a teacher that a girl had brought a weapon to school. Tanner said the students apparently planned to knock the teacher unconscious with a crystal paperweight, bind her with the handcuffs and tape and then stab her with the knife.

"We did not hear anybody say they intended to kill her, but could they have accidentally killed her? Absolutely," Tanner said. "We feel like if they weren't interrupted, there would have been an attempt. Would they have been successful? We don't know." The children, ages 8 to 10, were apparently mad at the teacher because she had scolded one of them for standing on a chair, Tanner said.

Two of the students were arrested on juvenile charges Tuesday and a third arrest was expected. District Attorney Rick Currie said other students told investigators they didn't take the plot seriously or insisted they had decided not to participate. "Some of the kids said, `We thought they were just kidding,'" Currie said. "Another child was supposed to bring a toy pistol, and he told a detective he didn't bring it because he thought he would get in trouble."

Currie said the children are too young to be charged as adults, and probably too young to be sentenced to a youth detention center.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080401/ap_on_re_us/children_s_plot



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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:46 PM
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17. So, what gives kids this young these elaborately violent ideas?
The neighborhoods they live in? TV? What?

I mean, it sounds so...organized.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:46 PM
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20. Do we blame YouTube? Or iPods? n/t
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:46 PM
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21. Blame Canada, with their beady little eyes, their flapping heads so full of lies! n/t
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:46 PM
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23. Extraordinary rendition....
....torture, unwarranted eavesdropping, voter fraud, lying public officials.

- Seems more like these kids are just emulating their elders...
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:46 PM
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18. to be arrested for "unruly behavior"
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:46 PM
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19. Violence always increases during war. n/t
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:46 PM
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22. Woah. My grandparents live there. How odd.
Crazy world.

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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:22 PM
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25. Well, why not? The President did it in Iraq
I've always felt that leadership is 'top-down' and thus the very character of our government, embodied in the men and women we 'elect' to office, have a much stronger influence on our culture than we sanction, or maybe even realize.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:05 AM
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29. Violence is the new way the world solves it's issues
errrrrrr...........or was that the old way :shrug:
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:59 PM
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26. I know that school...
::sigh::

I used to volunteer there (it was the adopted school of my submarine), in fact.

Waycross is a poor town. Not sure if that's here or there.

I had to stop going there because it broke my heart to see those kids but not be able to be there consistently there to help them.

One time I was doing some sort of reading game with this little girl, and I told her "Wow, you're a smart girl!"

Her eyes got big and she just looked at me. "Hasn't anyone ever told you that before?" I asked her.

She just smiled, looked down at her feet and shook her head.

When it was time for me to go she ran over and gave me the biggest hug you could imagine, then ran off.

::sigh::

A bunch of screwed up kids from screwed up families in a screwed-over town. :/
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