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Leo 9 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:22 PM
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US Evangelist Gives $6 Million to Israel
Source: Associated Press

US Evangelist Gives $6 Million to Israel
By BETH MARLOWE – 2 hours ago

JERUSALEM (AP) — American evangelist John Hagee announced donations of $6 million to Israeli causes on Sunday and said that Israel must remain in control of all of Jerusalem.

Hagee, a Christian Zionist who has been in the spotlight lately for endorsing presidential candidate John McCain and criticizing the Catholic Church, brought hundreds of backers on a solidarity trip to Israel.

Hagee and his group, Christians United for Israel, joined keynote speaker Benjamin Netanyahu, the leader of Israel's hard-line opposition Likud Party, at a rally in support of Jerusalem remaining united and under Jewish control.

"Turning part or all of Jerusalem over to the Palestinians would be tantamount to turning it over to the Taliban," Hagee told an audience filled with Americans who waved Israeli flags and cheered.

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Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ijYOZfs8tqW0uSmk2R2anDTmXWOgD8VSMA180
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:26 PM
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1. Money is Everything to Hagee I'm Sure
I bet he thinks he can buy Israel's trust after being exposed for the extremist bigot he really is in hoping for the end times and the destruction of all Jews.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:26 PM
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2. Emmenantizing The Eschaton!
So-called "Christain Zionists" are "Pro-Israel" the same way Colonel Sanders was "Pro-Chicken." They're just fattening them up for the slaughter.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:52 AM
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16. Those who won't convert to 'Christianity.'
then they can build the Third Temple and anoint Junior as the new Messiah.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:37 PM
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29. its too bad some Israelis don't understand that the death of all of
them is the goal. Hagee is Satan in the flesh.
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mooseandsquirrel Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:58 PM
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31. Well if Satan does exist
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 06:59 PM by mooseandsquirrel
I'd say Hagee is living proof. Hell, he even gives Anton Chigurh the creeps. Too bad Anton is an imaginary character from the mind of Cormac McCarthy and the Coen Brothers. Too bad Hagee is not a fiction either.

Where do these scary you know what to call them come from?

m&s
http://moose-and-squirrel.com
http://tinyurl.com/4oukqo
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Leo 9 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:24 PM
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33. Jewish Leader (Rabbi Eric Yoffie) Calls Hagee 'Extremist'
Jewish Leader Calls Hagee 'Extremist'
5 days ago

NEW YORK (AP) — The leader of the largest branch of American Judaism said Wednesday that synagogues in the movement shouldn't work with the Rev. John Hagee, a Christian Zionist, calling him an "extremist" on Israeli policy who disparages other faiths.

Rabbi Eric Yoffie, president of the liberal Union for Reform Judaism, said Hagee and his group, Christians United For Israel, reject any Israeli land concessions to achieve peace with the Palestinians.

Reform Judaism supports creating a Palestinian state; Hagee sees a biblical mandate for the territory so End Times prophecy can be fulfilled.

Yoffie also condemned Hagee's views on Roman Catholicism and Islam. The San Antonio pastor has suggested that Catholic anti-Semitism shaped Adolf Hitler, among other comments.

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"On Israeli-Palestinian politics, John Hagee and the CUFI are extremists," Yoffie said, in a speech to Reform rabbis meeting in Cincinnati. "In expressing contempt for other religions and rejecting territorial compromise under any and all circumstances, their views run against the American grain."

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http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gMW-iUj5Lda9Ebab2CY32xy62K5QD8VQ23E80
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:26 PM
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3. Creepy ugly people
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amihol Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:38 AM
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15. yeah, disgusting..
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:27 PM
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4. "Americans who waved Israeli flags and cheered..." Just imagine the RW hate-radio outrage had
this been a group of Mexican-Americans waving and cheering the Mexican flag at an event promoting Mexico...
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:40 PM
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5. They were in Israel.
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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:54 PM
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6. So I guess that renders Purveyor's point completely invalid then, huh?
Purveyor was just bringing up a point, you didn't have to shoot it down so curtly. His point still stands.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:03 PM
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9. chill.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:56 PM
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7. Fuck Agee and his Christian-Zionist extremism!
Most Israelis realize that returning all of the land taken in 1967 and ending the Occupation form the basis for peace.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:23 AM
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18. I would love to find a bumper sticker like that with "Tikkun Olam" instead of Barack Obama.
  The Obama symbol to the left would let anyone know who it's for. Do you know exactly what it does say? Is it "Barack Obama"? I went to the site but I wasn't sure. Tikkun Olam is a beautiful concept.

PB
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:31 PM
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27. It is Barack Obama's name in Hebrew n/t
:-)
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Myoho Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:01 PM
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8. Of Course!!!
It is a down payment on rebuilding the temple. Once that is accomplished the rapture will occur, Armageddon will happen, then Hagee will sell out the Jews to the anti-christ for damnation for all time and eternity.

Make sense?
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:20 PM
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28. Welcome to DU, Myoho
And you are quite correct. It's all about bringing on the rapture and the end times.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:18 PM
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10. That's nothing compared to the USG giving over 5 billion a year to Israel.
:argh:
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:05 PM
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21. No, it just adds to it.
:grr:

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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:47 PM
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11. So when do we get to blow up the Dome of the Rock?
You know, so the Jews can rebuild their Holy Temple, and then Jesus can come back and smite all the sinners?
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:09 PM
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12. 6 million?
Wow, that's six years pay for him. Pretty generous for a televangelist.
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liberal1973 Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:41 PM
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25. How heck did the extremist pull in 6 million?
The is a douche bag.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:10 AM
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13. Scum bags like hagee are doing their best to bring this world to an end.
What more can I say? These idiots know the prophecy of the end of the world, and they are doing their damned best to see to it that it comes true.

I hope this idiot and others like him burn in hell for eternity!
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:20 AM
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17. It's so surreal. He's trying to BUY the realization of prophecy
How is it prophecy if you have to MAKE it happen yourself? These people are mystifying to me. I missed the part in Revelations when Israel will remain in the hands of "the chosen" with help from the cold hard cash of a man who lusts with the thought of its inhabitants burning in Hell.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:33 AM
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14. So, the "press" will screech and puff and blow about Obama and Wright for literally WEEKS on end . .
But when it comes to Hagee and the rest of the perfect roan bull apocalyptic assclowns and their many, many friends in high places, the silence is deafening.

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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:23 AM
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19. Like Israel needs it nt
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:48 AM
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20. Sick and starving
I don't believe Israel need your money,how about a few bucks for the poor starving people in Darfur.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:07 PM
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22. Maybe even some of the people in the U.S.
:think:

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:20 PM
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23. Jewish Leader Calls Hagee 'Extremist' (4/03/08)
<snip>

"The leader of the largest branch of American Judaism said Wednesday that synagogues in the movement shouldn't work with the Rev. John Hagee, a Christian Zionist, calling him an "extremist" on Israeli policy who disparages other faiths.

Rabbi Eric Yoffie, president of the liberal Union for Reform Judaism, said Hagee and his group, Christians United For Israel, reject any Israeli land concessions to achieve peace with the Palestinians.

Reform Judaism supports creating a Palestinian state; Hagee sees a biblical mandate for the territory so End Times prophecy can be fulfilled.

Yoffie also condemned Hagee's views on Roman Catholicism and Islam. The San Antonio pastor has suggested that Catholic anti-Semitism shaped Adolf Hitler, among other comments."

more
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:30 PM
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26. Xian-Zionists do not view Reform Jews as "real Jews," rather like Unitarians with the Torah and
a menorah or two.

Univeralism does not play well in the ICP (Insane Creationist Posse) circles.

1967 is their mantra. They make the Likud look like Methodist Sunday School teachers at an ice cream and lemonade social. There is not enough smoting and smashing out brains to satisfy the ICP.

"God's will" dontcha know. . . .
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Leo 9 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:44 PM
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36. Hagee: We don't tell Israelis what to do
Apr 7, 2008 22:27 | Updated Apr 7, 2008 23:09

Hagee: We don't tell Israelis what to do

By MICHAL LANDO, NEW YORK


"We do not seek to tell Israelis what to do," Pastor John Hagee told a group of reporters Monday, following claims made last week by the president of the Union for Reform Judaism suggesting that he and his organization, Christians United for Israel, were a threat to the country's security.

Speaking from Israel, Hagee addressed a group of reporters in a joint conference call organized following statements made by Rabbi Eric Yoffie, who spoke at the annual convention of Central Conference of American Rabbis in Ohio. He urged Reform rabbis to distance themselves from Christian Zionists and targeted Hagee in particular for comments he made about Catholics, Muslims and his rejection of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

"In making this allegation, Yoffie ignores CUFI's record of activism," said Hagee. "Instead he relies on a few quotes from me and others pulled out of context."

"When it comes to issue of land for peace, it is true that I and other Christian Zionists have grown skeptical after watching the results of the withdrawal from South Lebanon and Gaza, but CUFI's philosophy has been that Israelis - and they alone - have the right to make existential decisions about land and peace," Hagee continued.

To the extent that CUFI has taken "concrete action," Hagee said it has been "limited to asking the White House not to pressure Israel into making territorial concessions that she does not wish to make."

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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1207486215731&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:23 PM
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24. One of the reasons why they give so much
is because they want the Second Coming to happen sooner. It's sickening.
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mooseandsquirrel Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:47 PM
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30. John McCain gave a speech this morning in my hometown
here is a thread about it:

http://tinyurl.com/4oukqo

m&s
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:13 PM
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32. I hope those 'Israeli causes' realize what's happening here
They should know that Hagee is only promoting his "Israel must exist until the Apocalypse" story - then they must convert to Christianity OR DIE.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:29 PM
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34. So, Did the Israelis Take the Money?
and what did they do with it?
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:34 PM
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35. The folks he "gave" it to probably have photos of Hagee.
Photos of what and who with I do not want to know...

:yoiks:
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:21 PM
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37. So this selfish asshole
has been sitting on 6 million dollars (and he obviously is sitting on much, much more) and he gives it to Israel of all people who do not even need it
so that he can bring on his Armageddon intending to slither his way out of here unscathed while people in his own Country are in $dire$straights$.

Oh that's right I forgot. We are "the richest Country in the World" if you don't have money here you are lazy. :sarcasm:

What a prick. :grr:

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