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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:23 PM
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Pelosi offers some hope for U.S.-Colombia trade deal
Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi offered some hope on Wednesday for congressional passage of a free trade agreement with Colombia, but said it would fail if the White House tries to jam the deal down Congress' throat.

"Perhaps we can get some of the trade agreements through. We did get the Peru trade agreement recently in a bipartisan way," Pelosi said in a speech to the Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce, whose members were in Washington to push Congress to approve the Colombia free trade pact and two others with Panama and South Korea.

"I've told the White House we stand ready to discuss with them how we can proceed in bringing this legislation to the floor. I said 'you want to do it the way you want to do it, it will lose. You just want to jam it down the throat of Congress, it will lose'," Pelosi said.

Last week, President George W. Bush set off a fight with Pelosi over the pact when he submitted it to Congress for a straight up-or-down vote within 90 days under long-standing "fast track" rules for considering trade agreements.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080416/pl_nm/usa_colombia_trade_dc
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:25 PM
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1. Bad Nancy
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 02:25 PM by DJ13
Havent you bent over enough for the free traders?

When are you going to start being a Senator for the rest of us?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:32 PM
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3. Well, I don't think that Barbara Boxer plans to leave the Senate, so it's gonna be a while
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:29 PM
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2. If she would start Impeachment hearings, she wouldn't have to spend time on this.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:39 PM
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4. What part of "NO" don't you understand, Nancy?
No free trade with fascist, drug dealing, union murderers!
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:00 PM
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5. This is a marked change in negotiation tactics
In past, many of Bush's timing demands were treated as mandates. This is Pelosi acting as though she actually has a House majority. Good for her.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:11 PM
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15. Good point
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 07:12 PM by HughMoran
I agree - it would be nice if others would not react emotionally to the latest opportunity to bash Pelosi and think for just a second.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:02 PM
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6. Big deal. Everyone here knew she'd blink.
And she did, right on cue. :shrug:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:06 PM
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7. Willing to be spineless if Dubya is "nicer."
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:42 PM
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8. Well there's the little enabler wench that I have come to understand and
dislike so much. I was wondering why in the world she ever stood up to the administration. I thought maybe it was an imposter. Or maybe she had suffered a head injury and forgot who she was. Or that maybe she even had started to develop a conscience, maybe felt a little guilty at the way she's been stiffing the people who make up the democratic party, the schmucks that send people like her to Washington D.C. and pay their fucking overinflated expenses.

Well, she's back now and ready, willing, and more than willing to cave in to the most corrupt government that has ever existed in this country. In fact, she's one of them really.
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SweetBrad Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:06 PM
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9. Maybe we can get some good Columbian Weed again?
I have not seen a nice bad of golden Columbian buds since the 70's! What happened, did Coke take over?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:31 PM
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11. it's Colombia and Colombian
:hi:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:31 PM
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10. I would certainly hate for Bush to shove anything down Congress' throat
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 06:31 PM by Solly Mack
They're just so helpless against the omnipotent Bush and in need of our understanding.

There, there.


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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:45 PM
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12. I Thought She was on Our Side? n/t
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:54 PM
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13. Don't do it. Don't reward Columbia for murdering it's labor leaders.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:04 PM
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14. Jeezus! W h e n will..
.. we get representatives who actually
consider the will, and the good, of the
people????????????????????????????????
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:26 PM
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16. House members pressure Colombia over violence
House members pressure Colombia over violence
Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:15pm EDT
By Hugh Bronstein

BOGOTA (Reuters) - Colombia's government is indirectly encouraging attacks against labor leaders by allowing a presidential adviser to link the victims to leftist rebels, says a letter signed by 63 members of U.S. Congress.

The protest reinforces opposition to a free trade deal bottled up by U.S. House leaders concerned about human rights abuses in the Andean country.

Jose Obdulio Gaviria, adviser to conservative President Alvaro Uribe, has come under fire from the opposition for suggesting a March 6 rally against right-wing violence was organized by guerrillas fighting a decades-old insurrection.

"Gaviria's remarks contribute to the threatening climate in which the physical safety and work of a broad spectrum of human rights defenders, trade unionists and civic leaders have been put at risk," says the letter, released on Tuesday and signed by 62 Democrats and one Republican.

Four union members were assassinated around the time of the march, according to human rights groups, while dozens more were targets of threats and nonfatal attacks.

More:
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1524932920080416?rpc=401&feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=401
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:05 AM
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17. Take stand against Colombia trade pact
Take stand against Colombia trade pact
By Natalie Danielle Camastra
Article Launched: 04/17/2008 05:56:35 PM PDT


HOUSE Democrats' decision last Friday to delay consideration of the U.S.-Colombia Free Trade Agreement until the next administration represents a move to protect the rights of the Colombian indigenous communities and U.S. national security interests. The decision comes after President Bush sent the controversial trade agreement to the House, which under presidential "fast track authority" requires an up or down legislative vote after 90 days. "Free trade" has most recently been a thorny topic, especially among Democrats, with Hillary Rodham Clinton's recent dismissal of a top advisor, Mark Penn, for his work on the Colombia deal. Although the White House claims that the trade pact will "enhance national security" by "strengthening a key democratic ally" in the region and "bring economic gains to both sides," the reality of the situation is quite another matter.

So what do indigenous rights in Colombia have to do with U.S. national security? A great deal. I argue that the two are more connected than one would have thought. In Colombia, agriculture is the third most important sector, employing more than twice as many as the industrial sector. However, since the passage of the Andean trade preference program in 1991, the trend has been to export food rather than to provide for local markets. In 2006, 40 percent of Colombia's population was food insecure. Under the U.S.-Colombia Free Trade agreement, Colombia will be forced to open its markets to U.S. agricultural goods, which are highly subsidized thanks to aggressive U.S. farm policy. Colombian agricultural products, especially from small- and medium-sized farms, cannot compete with the heavily subsidized U.S. agricultural goods such as corn and rice. And who owns and works these small to medium farms? Typically women, indigenous and Afro-Colombians: all members of the population that historically have been marginalized. The competitiveness of U.S. agriculture will drive these farmers from their land as they no longer find market access for their goods. In 2005, the Colombian Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Affairs concluded in a report that full liberalization would lead to a 35 percent decrease in employment.

Decreased employment in small and medium farms means those farmers will seek employment in other sectors, threatening food sovereignty and increasing internal displacement. Colombia has the world's second largest internally displaced populations (IDPs) of 38 million, second only to Sudan. However, this displacement is not only due to paramilitary violence, but also expropriations from large landholding elites and unemployment on small and medium farms. Many of the displaced will work on the very plantations that displaced them: large agro-business plantations, often environmentally and socially destructive. Others will seek employment in the more profitable coca plantations, exacerbating the cocaine drug trade. One contributor to the Washington Post opinion page said it best when they stated, "If farmers can't grow rice, they are more likely to grow coca." (February 17, 2006, p. A18)

Even more yet will migrate to the cities in search of manufacturing jobs, where the destitution and isolation will put them at risk for joining left or right wing paramilitary groups. The Washington Office on Latin America, a Washington based NGO, contends, "that there is not a national security rationale for passing the trade agreement with Colombia and that a strong argument to the contrary can be made." It is the cycle of economic liberalization, displacement, inequality and drug production that reinforces the proliferation of the paramilitary groups. The Colombian Minister of Agriculture even admitted the prevalence of this vicious cycle in 2004 when he stated, that the FTA would give small farmers little choice "but migration to the cities or other countries (especially the U.S.), working in drug cultivation zones, or affiliating with illegal armed groups."

More:
http://www2.sgvtribune.com/opinions/ci_8963906

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