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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:07 PM
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Young Voters Shun Third-Party Candidates ("Strong Support for Dem Candidates, Especially Obama")
Source: Associated Press

Young voters shun third-party candidates
2008-04-19 05:37:06
By JOHN RILEY Medill News Service for The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — Third-party candidates may find themselves out in the cold as they try to court young voters this year. Just ask 21-year-old Ross Colebrook. The American University junior from Nampa, Idaho, is backing Sen. Barack Obama in the primary race but would support Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton if she were the Democratic nominee before he'd consider voting for a third party.

"I think third parties are a positive thing in general," he said. "The problem in the U.S. is that the system is set up in such a way that it hurts the major two parties." Colebrook is among those who see third-party candidates as spoilers, a view that, coupled with a renewed excitement for major party candidates, is draining key support from third parties in 2008.

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According to a survey in January by The Associated Press and Yahoo, 18- to 29-year-olds were evenly divided between Republicans and Democrats, with each party getting a little more than one-third of all respondents. Twenty-five percent were undecided about whom they would support in a general election. While that 25 percent might seem encouraging to third parties, the poll also found that 58 percent of those aged 18 to 29 were either "not too likely" or "not at all likely" to support a third-party candidate.

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Koch said another reason support for third-party candidates is waning is the dynamics of this year's presidential race. Strong support for the Democratic candidates, especially Obama, has energized young and first-time voters to turn out in primaries and caucuses.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:12 PM
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1. Right on.
We don't need a 3rd party right now, we need to take the Democratic Party back from the corporate hacks.
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:21 AM
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5. Any ideas on how we can do that, take the party back?...

A first step and a few clues to get going on this effort would be helpful...

What can we actually do to wrest the Democratic Party away from these "corporate hacks"?

Is there any realistic hope of ever accomplishing this?

Is this goal of having a Democratic Party that represents the poor, working people and the (disappearing) middle class once again only a dream?

I wonder...




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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:23 AM
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6. It's Happening Already, Between Obama and Howard Dean, We Have a 3rd Party
and it's wiping the floor with the DLC, which is all to the good.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 07:35 AM
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8. Join your county committee, run for state party office, go to the state/national convention.
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 07:35 AM by bemildred
Work for progressive candidates. The Democratic Party has democratic rules. They can be used. That is what Mr. Dean has been trying to do. There has been good success already, and you can hear the yowls of outrage from the party hacks as we speak.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:25 PM
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2. .
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:50 PM
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3. Buh bye, Nader!
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:15 AM
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4. That leaves 42% who are more likely to consider voting...

for a "Third Party Candidate". This isn't particularly positive news for those who wish to continue controlling us through the "system". Typical spin though. Dizzying isn't it?

First off, I would like to see the day soon where the Repukes are the "Third Party" or better yet, the fourth or fifth party. Their greedy, grasping, reckless criminality has metamorphosed a truly great idea for a country into an international pariah. The sacrifices of millions of American heroes, from our founding fathers right through WW2, have been for nothing while these "neo-con" traitors desecrate and disgrace our once noble course.

A very significant aspect of our continued oppression has been the "system". The two "major" parties are completely corrupt. If you don't agree with that then IMHO you are being bamboozled. The interests of peace loving, humanitarian, honest, patriotic, sharing, loving Americans are so noticeably stuck far below the horizon, while our constitutionally guaranteed protections from the state are hacked away wholesale right in front of our apparently ingenuous eyes.

Our "representatives", even the "Democrats" have been overwhelmingly complacent, collaborative, compliant and even complicit while capitulating time after time to our fascist oppressors. Are you gullible enough to think that things are ever going to improve without some fundamental (radical) changes in the "system"?

The "systems" reliance on huge amounts of "contributions", actually though, let's face it, these are "investments" (which net astronomical returns) corrupting the whole process and creating/enabling our dysfunctional government. Actually it is functioning perfectly for those in control, those profiting immensely, those who enjoy torture, exploitation of the weak, inordinate power and wholesale criminality.

Those folks on this sort of thread who are quick to demonize American heroes like Ralph Nader as somehow part of the problem are either woefully ignorant or willing tools of our oppressors. No two ways about it! To defend the current operating "system" in light of our countries terrible situation is bizarre.

Where is the basic human right to effective up-to-date health care on the agenda? In the control of the Health Insurance Industry!

Where is the end of the tragic Iraqi war crimes being committed in OUR NAMES? 100 years from now?

Where are the rational alternatives to the oil cartels? Wind, wave, sun...

Where is the end of the "war on drugs". Selective enforcement targeting certain people. Actually it's a war on the poor, the different and our constitutional "rights".

Where is the education required to ensure a intelligent electorate? Not likely to happen when we just learn about how to be reliable consumer/producer sheeple. Our schools have been eviscerated due to the lack of funding. Teachers have been marginalized, demoralized and underpaid. Other priorities supposedly supersede education. Like prisons! Like war crimes! Like more police! Like perquisites for politicians! Like far too many frivolous and wasteful things to list. More important than education? Only if your goal is a dumbing down so complete that folks will even vote for their enemies!

When are the major beneficiaries of the "system" the rich and the super-rich going to pay their fair share of the costs/taxes? A huge proportion of the government is set up to protect their wealth. To keep them safe and insulated from the reality that overwhelmingly benefits only them. We, the oppressed, actually pay for our own subjugation. The tax "system" is regressive. Working folks and the "middle class" pay taxes. The rich pay politicians and lawyers to write gaping holes into the tax code to keep their wealth secure from generation to generation.

Our America, your country and mine, is the major victim of the "neo" philosophy. Since opportunities for exploiting the people in other countries is contracting, as they liberate themselves, the oppressors have cranked up their machinations, their greedy schemes, to suck the remaining wealth away from us to keep us "in line" and struggling.

We are declining into oblivion.

So sad!

It's interesting how many of those who want to preserve the right to gun ownership supposedly because they want to have the option to protect themselves from the state aren't firing off a few rounds to show their displeasure with the current situation. I guess they are dumbed down and can't read the "writing on the wall". If they don't get busy soon, I'd say they might as well turn in all of their arms to Uncle Sam.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 06:59 AM
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 07:45 AM
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9. What a horrible
generalization! I happen to know quite a few young people (including my 20-something daughters) who are very involved with the process! oh, and welcome
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:22 AM
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11. Do you ever study history at all?
Historically young people do not vote much..We will see what the future holds but facts just happen to be facts..
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Fractured Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:37 PM
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12. Good for your daughters! And, while I probably shouldn't
be so stereotypical and cynical, the historical fact is that young folks just don't show up on election day.
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 08:33 AM
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10. Where have you been? I hope that was tongue in cheek! n/t
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Fractured Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:39 PM
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13. "Where have I been?" Not being tongue in cheek on this one.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 08:02 PM
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14. "Past performance is no guarantee of future results." nt
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