Amnesty unveils shock 'waterboarding' film

[maddezmom]

Source: The Independent

Tuesday, 22 April 2008


An American expert in torture techniques has denounced his government for allowing "waterboarding" to be practised against terror suspects, just as a graphic advertisement showing the brutal reality of the technique is unveiled to British cinema-goers.


Malcolm Nance, who trained hundreds of US servicemen and women to resist interrogation by putting them through "waterboarding" exercises, demanded an immediate end to the practice by all US personnel.

He said: "They seem to think it is worth throwing the honour of 220 years of American decency in war out of the window. Waterboarding is out-and-out torture, and I'm deeply ashamed President Bush has authorised its use and dragged the US's reputation into the mud."

Mr Bush faced criticism recently when he vetoed a Bill that would have outlawed such methods of "enhanced interrogation" – the White House refuses to describe it as torture.

Mr Nance said: "You have a purpose-built table with straps in a pattern so that people can be strapped and unstrapped quickly. The head is strapped down in such a way so they cannot resist the water. The head is elevated so the water goes down the oesophagus.



Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/amnesty-unveils-shock-waterboarding-film-813325.html

[90-percent]

1. Top Five

This is one of the top five acts of treason committed by the Bush White House. But, with all this treason overload, just who cares that the President of the United States is a Traitor?

-90% Jimmy

[tomtomtom]

10. just a trick isn't it?

Fuck, isn't this just a "trick"? Real tortue= blood, broken things,

[Amonester]

20. You must be kidding, right??

I can't see the /sarcasm smiley in your post.

[alfredo]

22. Real torture is to break a person to the torturers will. It doesn't have to

mean breaking bones. It's not to "save lives" it is to force a confession. It doesn't have to be true, it just has to be useful for propaganda purposes.


McCain got broken. He signed a confession the NVA could propagate throughout they country and region. That's what they wanted. Intelligence in a war has a short shelf life. After a short period a captive's knowledge is of little use on the battlefield. All McCain and the others became were bargaining chips and possible propaganda tools. They wouldn't have kept them alive if they served no purpose.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

30. Do you know who said this?

"...there has been considerable press attention to a tactic called "waterboarding," where a prisoner is restrained and blindfolded while an interrogator pours water on his face and into his mouth-causing the prisoner to believe he is being drowned. He isn't, of course; there is no intention to injure him physically. But if you gave people who have suffered abuse as prisoners a choice between a beating and a mock execution, many, including me, would choose a beating. The effects of most beatings heal. The memory of an execution will haunt someone for a very long time and damage his or her psyche in ways that may never heal. In my view, to make someone believe that you are killing him by drowning is no different than holding a pistol to his head and firing a blank. I believe that it is torture, very exquisite torture."

John McCain, 2005
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/111305Y.shtml

Oh yeah, this was before he voted AGAINST THE WATERBOARDING BAN.

[midnight]

2. May God allow those who are innocent heal quickly, and those

who did this have a real quick visit to Hell.

[superconnected]

3. Horrorifying. I don't get how humans can do this to each other.

And the rw supports this crap.

Boy they make christians look bad.

[Patchuli]

19. Please, not all Christians are rightwing!

And we progressive Christians do not agree with any kind of torture!

[HysteryDiagnosis]

4. May the former disgruntled waterboarding victims have their

day in court, may the perps experience similar horror ten times over.

[Doctor_J]

16. It's coming - after the revolution

Can't wait to see how Rush enjoys this "Fraternity Prank"

[Maven]

5. Here's another one on stress positions called "Waiting for the Guards"

http://www.unsubscribe-me.org/waitingfortheguards.php

Chilling.

[annabanana]

6. The refusal of Congress to override that veto is to the neverending

shame of the US Congress. Their names will be vilified forever in our Nation's History. And it breaks my heart that the "generation of love" was not up to the job of governance.

[H8fascistcons]

8. Agreed Anna.....

And to the rest of America I am pleading not to let these criminal Fascist enablers off the hook. The criminal Fascist republicans could not continue to commit crimes against humanity unless they were allowed to by Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Steny Hoyer, Ted Kennedy, Jay Rockefeller, Rahm Emanuel. Please hold these criminal Democrats accountable along with the criminal republicans! We expect this kind of behavior from republicans but not from Democrats. Nancy Pelosi and her fellow enablers do not get to pick and choose which crimes against the constitution to ignore...

[ToughLuck]

7. JOHN YOO the WAR CRIMINAL

Yoo is the lawyer behind the crimes, leave the USA and you may one day feel a tap on your shoulder which may land your ass in jail. Talk about a twisted mind..unbelievable!

[bdamomma]

27. this guy should not even be employed at Berkeley.

how can they let these thugs walk freely.

[lovuian]

9. Its cruelty and to see it done is horrible

Its part of mind control to see the US part of this is absolutely scary to see what in 8 years Bush made them become

[LaStrega]

11. Horrifying, vile, sickening ... torture? YES! Illegal? YES. k&r n/t

[bitchkitty]

12. Anyone else having problems with the video?

It won't play for me.

[Better Believe It]

13. Recommend

kick

[slowry]

14. This one worked for me:

http://unsubscribe-me.org/films/blipesque-sof-640.swf

It's the same, but higher res. Don't ask me how I found that link... I'm Neo, basically.

[bitchkitty]

15. Thank you -

that film is very effective. I am ashamed to call myself an American today.

[Amonester]

21. the sh*t-heads who commit those acts, whether they R

"just following orders" or not... R un-American

Not you, mon amie.


Edited to add the 'e' :thumbsup:

[bitchkitty]

23. I agree, they are the traitors...but not everyone knows that.

When I was in Europe in the 80s, Reagan was President. The things that our leaders do, that our government does, are seen as American things - that's the way we're seen. Wrong, I know, but whoever said perception is everything was right.

In Spain, and later in England, it would always be the same - I made friends, but I always had to prove myself first. I was automatically regarded with suspicion and people didn't feel free to speak out about politics around me. After they got to know me, that perception changed. I wasn't political either way back then, I had a liberal nature, but in fact I was quite ignorant of politics. My dad had worked for the alphabets and I was pretty cynical about both sides. Still am, but Spain changed me in that I took a side.

I'm back in the USA for a good many years now, and I imagine that it's the same for Americans in Europe today, considering how much worse Jr. is than Reagan (20 years ago I would have denied that was possible.)

[Amonester]

26. Thank you. I agree it must be a nightmare these days...

to be an "unknown" anti-bu$h American (anywhere) abroad...

But once that fact becomes "known" the sympathy must be "magnified" a lot. :)

[drmeow]

25. I've been ashamed to call myself an American

for over 5 years. The shame just keeps getting deeper and deeper. And the anger keeps getting stronger and stronger.

[lonestarnot]

18. The vile piece of evil worked there!

[lonestarnot]

17. me either.

[liberaltrucker]

24. Not in my name? Bullshit.

It was in my name and I acquiesced by not speaking out.
Shame on me-shame on my Government. Shame on patriotic
Americans who weren't paying attention.

:cry:

History will not be kind to us.

[bdamomma]

29. history will not be kind to us, to let this thuggish regime remain

in abuse of power will stain us forever.

[bdamomma]

28. is this what we really want to be noted for throughout the world.

torturers. shame on all of us.