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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:02 PM
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Cheney camp 'behind Syrian reactor claim'
Source: ABC News/Australia

US Government allegations that North Korea helped Syria build a nuclear reactor have been greeted with scepticism because of their timing.

Israeli jets bombed the alleged site in Syria's eastern desert last September. Today, after months of whispers, the White House publicly claimed that the target of the strike was a nuclear reactor.

. . .

But Mike Chinoy, from the Pacific Council on International Policy, says the claim needs to be taken in its political context, as North Korea's denuclearisation reaches a critical stage.

"Everything I'm hearing from my own sources in Washington is that what you have now is a kind of push back by Vice-President Cheney and his office and other hardliners who are opposed to diplomatic dealings with North Korea," he said.

"(They are) hoping that by making public these allegations of nuclear cooperation it will torpedo the diplomatic process."

Read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/04/25/2227483.htm?section=world



Not just greeted with skepticism because of timing. It is almost impossible to believe anything coming from the military press room as anything other than pure made up propaganda BS.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:07 PM
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1. Isn't that special? Once again we are sitting here watching the second in command...
trying his damnedest to start a second and maybe World war... This guy ranks right up there as the worst fuck wad since Hitler..... grrrrr
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:08 PM
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2. He's undermining our national security.
He's deliberately trying to make this as public as possible so that the public won't diplomacy, even if negotiators were to factor this in to their talks.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:39 PM
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3. here`s an interesting article about the reactor
and two links to the politics of the situation

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2007/syria_nuke.htm
Syria's Nuclear Program



http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2008/04/mil-080424-voa07.htm
Syria Says Israel Willing to Return Golan Heights for Peace

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/dprk/2008/dprk-080424-voa01.htm
US Lawmakers Discuss North Korea's Possible Nuclear Ties to Syria
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:26 AM
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4. Why does Cheney have a "camp?" Why are they entitled to their own facts?
What the fuck is going on in my country?
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:35 AM
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5. The philosophy of Leo Strauss .... The PNAC, ... And the creation of the OSP ....
ALL signposts ahead in The Twilight Zone .....

The fucking Neocon Cheneyites have been a threat to national security from day one ...

Fucking whackos ....


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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:47 PM
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16. so what else is new? Grab all you can before you leave is his PNAC motto.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:56 AM
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6. One interpretation. True?? I know who not to believe, those who lied before!!
Do not believe Bush and Cheney.

Iran is the distraction from the failure in Iraq.
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:22 AM
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8. More than a distraction
I think Iran is their next goal after Iraq, and has been all along.

And what we regard as a failure in Iraq, Bush and Cheney may see as a resounding success. They have seized control of Iraq's oilfields, and established the military bases from which they can exert influence over the rest of the Mideast's oil. From their standpoint, it truly is "mission accomplished".

Sure, it's cost a hundred times what they thought it would, but what do they care? Neither they nor any of their war-profiteering cronies are any the poorer, that's for sure.

The thousands of dead and maimed U.S. troops, the millions of dead or dispossessed Iraqis, might be dismissed by Dick Cheney with a single syllable:

"So?"

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:13 AM
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11. some of us saw this coming a long time ago
First Iraq, Then the World
February 28, 2003
By Bridget Gibson

The war on Iraq is but the first step in the plan. The global hegemony that is sought by the Bush administration is being laid out in steps broad and intricate. Small pieces of news float out at odd moments, laying the groundwork for the desensitization of the American population.

Was it just over a year ago that we were allowed to peek at Donald Rumsfeld's Nuclear Review Policy (NPR) that disclosed the targets of our future nuclear warheads? For those with a short memory, the list is as follows: Russia, China, North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Syria and Libya.

As we are now witnessing, they are not necessarily targeted in that order, but here we go first to Iraq.

John Bolton, Undersecretary of State met with officials in Israel on Monday, February 17, 2003. He said that he had no doubt that the United States would attack Iraq and that afterwards it would be necessary to deal with the threats from Syria, Iran and North Korea.

Also on Monday, February 17, 2003, North Korea stated that it would possibly withdraw from the Armistice Agreement of 1953 - the one that ended the conflict that so many of our United States servicemen fought and died in - because of the bellicosity of the Bush administration.

George Bush and his administration have made this world a much more dangerous place in which to live by their continual saber-rattling, name calling and treaty destroying ways.

In just over two short years, George Bush has failed to behave in a responsible manner that kept the population of this country secure in the knowledge that diplomats and level heads were occupying the highest offices of our nation.

We were told that the "adults were in charge" and that a "seasoned team of experts" would comprise his cabinet. What we have been offered in actuality are Ronald Reagan Iran-Contra retreads and neo-conservative ideologues that lust for the end of the world.

If we do not wake up soon, my fellow citizens, we will have nothing. We will have no Constitutional rights, no safety behind our windows covered with duct tape and visqueen and no security in the knowledge of a planet on which to live.

The Bush administration is now planning on how to reduce the amount of warning the test sites in the western US desert would need to be reactivated to produce an entirely new nuclear arsenal.

When Bush unleashes his terror upon the world, there will be no safe hiding place. The color coded terror alerts and the Department of Homeland Security will offer no refuge. There will be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. If you want answers, ask the survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

This is not a discussion about what political party you should be aligned with. This is a warning shot across the bow.

If you do not understand death and destruction today, you will be understanding it very soon.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:25 AM
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7. Good, Leave it to outside the US to report on this ......
the US media is worthless. I have quit watching US news media.... BBC for me.
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:32 AM
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9. This what they call a justification LIE!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:07 AM
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10. Yesterday the WH denied it gave the go ahead for the attack
No one denied the Naval Observatory gave the go ahead for the attack.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:48 AM
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12. Fool me one, shame on you, Fool me 1,432 times...
...and we're looking at the past 8 years and the MSM.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:17 AM
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13. AFP: Six-party deal under threat as US spills the beans on NKorea
WASHINGTON (AFP) — US claims that North Korea helped Syria build a nuclear reactor may wreck a six-party deal under which the hardline communist state agreed to end its nuclear weapons drive, experts said.

Although Washington has made clear that the diplomatic initiative will continue, the serious accusation levelled against North Korea would require President George W. Bush's administration to impose such high verification standards on denuclearization efforts that Pyongyang may just walk away from the deal, according to the experts.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j7Ejeh2SqKlsCxmpelA8lzaw0BXw

Appears the Cheney propaganda campaign is having an effect.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 09:24 AM
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14. Hoekstra (R-Mich) is boiling mad over this, see link
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 09:25 AM by wordpix
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/34870.html

snip: Several lawmakers expressed anger that the Bush administration hadn't briefed members of Congress on the issue sooner.

"It happened eight months later that what it should have been," complained Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., the senior Republican on the House Intelligence Committee. "The relationship that we need to get international issues done, foreign policy issues done, a trusting environment between the administration and Congress, does not exist."

The senior administration official, however, said that 22 key lawmakers had been briefed last September and October.

:eyes: I see another Repub leaving the sinking SS BushCheney
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:53 PM
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15. NeoCons YEP
they want to destroy America
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:00 PM
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17. One word, PNAC
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