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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:32 AM
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BRIEFING: Doubt cast on Colombia's seizure (Bush's South American ally)
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 06:46 AM by Judi Lynn
Source: Washington Times (stunning to see they actually published this!)

BRIEFING: Doubt cast on Colombia's seizure
By Kelly Hearn
April 29, 2008

The government of Colombia, stung by scandal over government links to right-wing militias and an imperiled trade deal with Washington, faces charges from leading U.S.-based academics that it is distorting information purportedly seized from Marxist guerrillas during a cross-border raid.

~snip~
"In the first round of media coverage of the event, significant problems of inconsistency surfaced precisely as a result of the gap between Colombia's exaggerations and what the documents actually say," says the letter.

The signatories include Greg Grandin, a professor at New York University; Larry Birn of the Council of Hemispheric Affairs; Miguel Tinker Salas of Pomona College; and Mark Weisbrot of Washington's Center for Economic and Policy Research. The signatories are generally considered left-leaning in their analyses of events in Latin America.

The letter states that even if Interpol says that the laptops belonged to FARC, "there is no evidence that the publicly available documents support any of the extreme claims by the Colombian government that Venezuela and Ecuador had any sort of financial relationship with the rebels."

It says that "independent analysis" of the documents indicate that the Colombian government "has substantially exaggerated their contents, perhaps for political purposes."




Read more: http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080429/FOREIGN01/82257403/1003/FOREIGN&template=nextpage
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:06 AM
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1. More from the article it undoubted KILLED this right-wing rag to publish:
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 07:14 AM by Judi Lynn
~snip~
In an open letter to the media, about two dozen specialists from U.S. research institutes and universities, including Harvard and New York University, have warned reporters to be cautious with accounts from Colombia's government that purport to link Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez with the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC.

~snip~
In interviews with The Washington Times, Ecua-dorean diplomats in Quito, who requested anonymity because they aren't allowed to speak to the press, complained that Colombia has only offered copies of documents linking the Ecuadorean government of Mr. Correa to FARC.

They said Colombia had failed to offer, for example, a description of the software and techniques used to recover the data, information about server paths traveled by e-mails or other data that links the laptops to the bombed location.

(To read the open letter, please move on to the next post!)



That's right: yuk it up, pals.


On edit, here's the URL to the letter, in advance:
http://www.abn.info.ve/go_news5.php?articulo=130480&lee=18
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:08 AM
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2. Here it is, the OPEN LETTER from U.S. experts our own corporate media sat on FOUR DAYS OR MORE!
An Open Letter to the Media:

Interpol Analysis of FARC Laptop Authenticity Will Not “Prove” Links Between Venezuela, Rebels


Colombian interpretation of documents discredited by analysts, OAS Secretary General

Later this month, the International Criminal Police Organization (Interpol) will publicly determine the “authenticity” of laptops recovered from a rebel encampment in Ecuador after a March 1 raid on the camp by the Colombian government. Based on previous press coverage of the incursion and the documents, we are concerned that the media take extreme care in interpreting the Interpol findings. In the first round of media coverage of the event, significant problems of inconsistency surfaced precisely as a result of the gap between Colombia’s exaggerations and what the documents actually say.1

Even if the laptops are found to have belonged to members of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), there is no evidence that the publicly available documents support any of the extreme claims by the Colombian government that Venezuela and Ecuador had any sort of financial relationship with the rebels. In fact, independent analyses of the documents indicate that the Colombian government has substantially exaggerated their contents, perhaps for political purposes. Any media coverage of the Interpol findings must make clear that many of the Colombian allegations have already been largely discredited.

The Colombian interpretation has already proven so weak that OAS Secretary General Jose Miguel Insulza, testifying before the House Subcommittee on Western Hemispheric Affairs last week, stated unequivocally that there is “no evidence”2 linking Venezuela to the Colombian rebels, yet Insulza’s statement has gone virtually unreported in the English language press.

Analysts cite three primary flaws in the Colombian government’s charges linking Venezuela and the FARC:

The “Dossier”: The notion that the Venezuelan government provided—or intended to provide—$300 million to the FARC is based exclusively on this passage from a letter sent to the FARC secretariat from Raul Reyes:

“With relation to the 300, which from now on we will call 'dossier,' efforts are now going forward at the instructions of the boss to the cripple which I will explain in a separate note”3

There is no clear description of what the “300” represents. While the Colombians claim it is a reference to three hundred million dollars, it could just as easily refer to three hundred dollars or even three hundred hostages. Note that this letter was dated December 23, 2007—two weeks before the first wave of FARC hostage releases.

The Contact: To believe that Hugo Chavez was providing material support to the FARC—beyond his role as a hostage negotiator—one must accept the premise that the person referred in the FARC documents under the code name “Angel” is indeed Hugo Chavez. Yet the documents reference both “Angel” and “Chavez”—sometimes in the same paragraph. It appears that the documents are referring to two different people.

The Timing: The most extensive evaluation of the available documents has been done by Adam Isacson of the Center for International Policy4. In addition to the concerns above, Isascson concluded that the uptick in communication between the Venezuelan government and the FARC coincided almost exclusively with the timeframe in which Chavez had been invited to mediate hostage negotiations.

As Isacson put it, “When considered in chronological order, the guerrilla communications regarding Hugo Chávez and Venezuela appear to reveal a relationship that was cordial but distant until the fall of 2007,”5 exactly the time that negotiations began.

Note too that other laptop-related Colombian allegations have already been proven false or dubious. Notably, claims that the FARC were conspiring to build a “dirty bomb” were publicly dismissed6 by the U.S. government as well as terrorism experts throughout the region. Also Colombia’s allegations that a photo found in the laptops showed a meeting between FARC leaders and an Ecuadorian cabinet official were also proved to be false7.

The discussion here is about state support of terrorism, and in the current political climate the stakes could not be higher. Given the sensitivity and potential implications for peace within hemisphere, it is crucial that the media exercise a more critical eye in its reporting than has been demonstrated to date. Any fair-minded coverage of the upcoming Interpol announcement would make clear that the authentication of the laptops does not mean the validation of the Colombian interpretation of their contents, and should make note both of the independent analyses of the documents and the statement from the OAS Secretary General.

Sincerely,


Charles Bergquist, University of Washington, Seattle
Larry Birns, Council on Hemispheric Affairs
Amy Chazkel, Queens College, City Univerity of New York
Avi Chomsky, Salem State College
Luis Duno Gottberg , Florida Atlantic University
James Early, TransAfrica Forum Board of Directors and Institute for Policy Studies Board of Directors
Samuel Farber, Brooklyn College, City University of New York
Sujatha Fernandes, Queens College, City University of New York
Lesley Gill, American University
Greg Grandin, New York University
Daniel Hellinger, Webster University
Forrest Hylton, New York University
Diane Nelson, Duke University
Jocelyn Olcott, Duke University
Diana Paton, University of Newcastle, UK
Fred Rosen, North American Congress on Latin America
T.M Scruggs, University of Iowa
Sinclair Thomson, New York University
Miguel Tinker Salas, Pomona College
Mark Weisbrot, Center for Economic and Policy Research
John Womack, Harvard University
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:13 AM
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14. Yeah, but the Washington Times article
says all of those people are "left-leaning". How are we supposed to believe anything they say?
:sarcasm:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:24 AM
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3. Kicking!
:kick: :kick: :kick: :hi:
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freefall Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:30 AM
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4. Thanks for posting this, Judi Lynn.
I knew as soon as I heard about those laptops that the information supposedly found on them was untrue. After all look at the sources, two corrupt administrations, one in the US and one on Columbia, both with huge stakes in getting people to believe their propaganda. Unfortunately, both administrations supported by the MSM have been so incredibly successful in brainwashing their constituencies that chances of the information in this letter being disseminated widely enough to counteract the effect of the misinformation broadcast at the time of the raid are slim and none.

K&R
:kick:
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:46 AM
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5. K&R
we have proof, we can't let you see the Originals.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:03 AM
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6. "there is no evidence "
With George W. bUsh's America, "no evidence" is the SOP.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:32 AM
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7. Anyone else
detect the deathstench of School of the Americas?
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:38 AM
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8. I'm getting old waiting for the interpol report from the laptops
it was going to be ready in 2 or 3 weeks to proof all those conspirators were gonna be going to the hague, looks more like a free trade agreement proposal cos the death of those guys in the jungle.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:29 AM
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11. Note the final paragraph of their letter....
"Any fair-minded coverage of the upcoming Interpol announcement would make clear that the authentication of the laptops does not mean the validation of the Colombian interpretation of their contents, and should make note both of the independent analyses of the documents and the statement from the OAS Secretary General. --the Letter

An announcement is apparently upcoming, from Interpol, that the laptopS (first one, later several) did belong to FARC and/or Raul Reyes, but--the Letter cautions--that doesn't mean that their contents are real, or that Colombian (Bush-CIA) interpretation of their contents is valid. In other words, they may well have seized FARC laptops from the bomb sight, but what have they been doing with them since?

They are warning us that the corporate news monopolies will focus on verification of ownership, and not on verification of content. And rarely do we get such a warning. Usually, we have to figure this shit out after the lies, disinformation and psyops have spread far and wide. We owe these experts a debt of gratitude--for their early warning and for their courage.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:19 AM
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9. You will have to trust us on this.
International Gangsters just yukking it up.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:13 AM
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10. You get the feeling Uribe is being dumped? I do. He has been unable to deliver
on any of the jobs that the Bush Junta has given him--discrediting the presidents of Venezuela and Ecuador, and drawing them into a war, assassinating Chavez, cleaning up the Colombian death squads' image, so Congress will pass the Colombian "free trade" deal, getting hostages killed (to hand Chavez a diplomatic disaster), stopping the momentum toward FARC hostage releases and a political settlement of Colombia's 40+ year civil war, preventing Venezuela, Ecuador and Bolivia from conducting REAL drug interdiction, killing bad publicity by killing journalists, killing the Colombian labor movement by killing union leaders, killing the political left by killing leftists, getting a third term in office by bribing and bullying legislators (while the Bushites berate Hugo Chavez for seeking a third term by A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE), turning FARC leftist guerrillas into "terrorists" for the infamous Bushite "war on terror," and more.

Whatever assignment they give him, he botches. His lies and treachery and incredible corruption (former Medellin Cartel go-to guy, now Bush Cartel) don't go down well in DEMOCRATIC, LEFTIST South America, and, unlike the Bush-U.S., Colombian prosecutors are INDEPENDENT of the Uribe/death squad establishment. How that came about I do not know, but it is a significant difference between our two countries, and bodes well for Colombia. They may be able to purge their criminal government sooner than we do. Uribe himself is now under investigation, as well as 60 of his political cohorts (including relatives), for their ties to the death squads and drug traffickers. One of his cousins was just arrested.

The Monsanto's and the Exxon Mobil's, who are desperate for, a) oil, and b) biofuel production land--and have BLOWN their relations with most of South America, through Bushit treachery--need a new government in Colombia, cleaner on the death squad stuff, but not on "free trade." Uribe is just too dirty--and that has meaning in South America, though it doesn't seem to have any meaning here, as to the person claiming to be President of the United States and his dirty rotten crew.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:36 AM
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12. LOL.
:hi:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:57 AM
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13. Typical news from Colombia under Uribe:Colombia arrests 15 soldiers for peasant killings
Colombia arrests 15 soldiers for peasant killings
Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:14pm EDT
By Hugh Bronstein

BOGOTA, April 29 (Reuters) - Fifteen Colombian soldiers were arrested on suspicion of killing two farmers in 2005 and passing their bodies off as leftist guerrillas killed in battle, prosecutors said on Tuesday.

The arrests were announced as Colombia tries to convince the U.S. Congress to pass a free trade deal and continue military aid despite accusations of illegal executions and other human rights abuses by state security forces.

Another 14 soldiers are wanted in the case of Frank Martinez and Claudio Olmero, who the attorney general says were falsely identified by the army as insurgents killed in action in the northern province of Cesar.

Security forces are often accused but rarely convicted of abuses connected to a 44-year-old war involving Marxist guerrillas, right-wing paramilitaries and other groups funded by Colombia's multibillion-dollar cocaine trade.

"I do not think these 15 arrests would have been made without pressure from the United States," said Lisa Haugaard, head of the Latin America Working Group, a Washington-based human rights organization.

More:
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN29341843
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:55 PM
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15. Colombia Accused of Exaggerating Chavez-FARK link
04/30/2008 05:21 PM ID: 70364
Colombia Accused of Exaggerating Chavez-FARK link

Leading U.S.-based academics from U.S. research centers and various Universities including Harvard have claimed that the government of Colombia has distorted information captured from FARC guerrillas to smear Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

A statement released by the group stated "In the first round of media coverage of the event, significant problems of inconsistency surfaced precisely as a result of the gap between Colombia's exaggerations and what the documents actually say."

Interpol is poised to make an announcement on the contents of the documents but the academics claim that "independent analysis" shows that the government of Alvaro Uribe "has substantially exaggerated their contents, perhaps for political purposes."

http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=70364
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:22 PM
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16. Thanx Judi Lynn!
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