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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:45 PM
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Pentagon launches foreign news websites
Source: USA Today

By Peter Eisler, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — The Pentagon is setting up a global network of foreign-language news websites, including an Arabic site for Iraqis, and hiring local journalists to write current events stories and other content that promote U.S. interests and counter insurgent messages.
The news sites are part of a Pentagon initiative to expand "Information Operations" on the Internet. Neither the initiative nor the Iraqi site, www.Mawtani.com, has been disclosed publicly.

At first glance, Mawtani.com looks like a conventional news website. Only the "about" link at the bottom of the site takes readers to a page that discloses the Pentagon sponsorship. The site, which has operated since October, is modeled on two long-established Pentagon-sponsored sites that offer native-language news for people in the Balkans and North Africa.

Journalism groups say the sites are deceptive and easily could be mistaken for independent news.

"This is about trying to control the message, either by bypassing the media or putting your version of the message out before others (and) … there's a heavy responsibility to let people know where you're coming from," says Amy Mitchell, deputy director at the Project for Excellence in Journalism. A disclosure on a separate page "isn't something most people coming to the site are likely to see."



Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2008-04-30-sites_N.htm?csp=34
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:51 PM
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1. Websites for the use of "spin" perhaps? n/t
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:08 PM
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2. They've seen propaganda before!
It never works!
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:32 PM
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3. You're right
They are also crass, even when doing propaganda for us. Imagine how ham-handed they will be when trying to do cross-cultural propaganda.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:34 PM
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4. I bet it is since they shoot journalists in that part of the world.
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 10:34 PM by mac2
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:22 AM
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6. I very much doubt any actual journalism will be going on
I bet that it will be a bunch of hacks translating Bush regime press releases from a secure location. I doubt they will bother even to make phone calls, much less do independent journalism from places where they might get shot.

At least, that's how we're run most of our Middle Eastern operations so far.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:28 AM
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7. Right.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:39 PM
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5. They can't be responsible enough to supply decent living
conditions for our soldiers whether in the barracks or at Walter Reed and yet they think they can launch an effective global network for foreign language news websites? Yeah. Right.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:19 AM
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8. Journalism is mostly dead.
I'll admit to not knowing a huge amount, but from high school journalism class I took many years ago, I don't see much journalism today. Everything is now written with a primary motive of making money or pushing a viewpoint. The stories are not about unbiased presentation of the news, they are about grabbing your attention to draw ratings or pushing the political objectives of the owners.

Other than spending our money of this crap, I can't get too excited about some crappy foreign language websites. Better to let the military morons sit in a dark room and have some virtual "releases" than out there, fucking things up in real life.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:14 AM
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9. See Donald Rumsfeld's op-ed in WaPo about South America...
"The Smart Way to Beat Tyrants Like Chávez," by Donald Rumsfeld, 12/1/07
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113001800.html

That's one of the things he urges--psyops via the internet. Another is using the Colombia "free trade" deal as economic warfare to "defeat" peaceful, lawful, democratic, leftist governments--governments that are actually elected by transparent vote counting--like those in Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia and Argentina. He doesn't mention these others, but makes of a point to saying "tyrants like Chavez." Whoever does he mean--but other lawful, peaceful, elected leaders? There aren't any other kind of governments in South America, except in Colombia, the sole Bush client state where they've slaughtered thousands of union leaders and other dissidents.

Besides economic warfare, he urges "swift action" by the U.S. in support of "friends and allies" in South America. Again, whatever does he mean? Items like the ten U.S. 500 lb. "smart bombs" and U.S. surveillance--and probably U.S. aircraft and personnel--that acted "in support" of Colombia in its recent bombing/incursion against Ecuador? Probably that, yes. But more. The Bushites don't have any "friends and allies" in South America, except for the fascist thugs in Colombia, and the corrupt "free traders" in Peru--and fascist cells plotting coups within countries with leftist, democratic governments. I think he is mainly talking about Bolivia, where white separatists intend to split off their gas/oil rich eastern provinces--by an illegal referendum next week--from the central government of Evo Morales--the first indigenous president of Bolivia (a largely indigenous country)--to deny benefit of those resources to the poor majority. The Bushites have been supporting--and no doubt funding, arming and organizing--these wealthy, racist Bolivian secessionists. Since Paraguay elected a leftist government last Sunday, the Bushites ceased to possess any strategic ground at the southern end of the Bolivarian revolution. The new president of Paraguay (a former bishop known as "the bishop of the poor") wants the U.S. air base in Paraguay gone. The countries surrounding Paraguay all have leftist governments (Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay).

The Bolivian white separatists present the Bushites with an opportunity to create a fascist enclave in the south, from which to launch major trouble against its leftist neighbors.

The Bushites--for all the righwing corporate news monopolies in South America--have lost the propaganda war, as well as losing control of the oil and other resources in Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia and Argentina (and control of elections everywhere but in Colombia and Peru). The Bolivarian governments are willing to dicker with multinationals, but on their own terms. Venezuela, for instance, requires that 60% of the profits from its oil go to Venezuela, for schools, medical care and bootstrapping of the poor, as well as local development. Multinationals like Chevron, British BP, France's Total and Norways' Statoil have agreed. Exxon Mobil took Venezuela to court (in first world countries--England, the U.S.--without notifying Venezuela) (rude SOBs) to try to freeze $12 billion in Venezuela's assets cuz they didn't like the deal--but Exxon Mobil lost a major round of its legal bullshit in a London court, recently. Rumsfeld wants to restore the dominance of Exxon Mobil and other predators, and, to that end, wants to destabilize and topple these democracies, with an economic squeeze (working with rich ag interests to starve the country, and producing corporate biofuels with slave labor in Colombia, among other things), and by covert ops and outright aggression. For all of these things, they need yet more propaganda--and the Pentagon is complying (cuz there's a whole lot of military boondoggle, and drugs/weapons profit, to be had as well, from the infamous Bush-U.S. "war on drugs").

It irritates Dr. Strangelove that people share information freely on the internet, and know who he is and what he's done, and can figure out what he's up to, currently. That's why he focuses on the propaganda value of the internet. He says we're all out here getting info on our own, and forming our own opinions, and the United States needs to counteract this with utter bullshit from the Office of Special Plans. He doesn't put it exactly that way, but that's what he means. On line, we can go to www.venezuela.com, for instance, and find out how they count votes in Venezuela, and that they have a transparent vote counting system, whereas we don't. With this and other information, it becomes clear who the "tyrants" really are, and who they are not. Bushite lies are therefore not working. This pisses him off. He wants to shove his lies down our throats until we choke to death, is the truth of the matter. That's what they do in Colombia, and in Iraq, and in Guantanamo Bay. But "The Smart Way to Beat Tyrants Like Chavez," when three out of three of your assassination plots--and every other dirty rotten thing you've tried--have failed--is this more multi-pronged approach of more propaganda, more "divide and conquer," more economic warfare, and, above all, bringing bloodshed and war to a continent that is peaceful except for the Bushite fascists in Colombia.

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:42 PM
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10. Propaganda is as propaganda does. This sickens me more than their cable news network! nt
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Bush_MUST_Go Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:53 PM
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11. The time to reach out is LONG, LONG PASSED..... 7 years too late.
Nobody has reason to trust the motives or actions of the USA anymore.

Typical to this incompetent administration, this 'new' plan comes right after the world finds out that the govt. has been controlling what the media reports IN America.


This is just one more way for them to get their paws on taxpayer money for some nefarious purpose, I'm sure. All we need to do is find out where the money REALLY winds up.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:25 PM
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12. I think google gave me several of those sites the other day
I googled for something, and got several hits on sites that looked like that one.
Something didn't seem right about it.
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