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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:20 AM
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AP NewsBreak: Former Democratic leader switches to Obama
Source: ap



By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer 8 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A leader of the Democratic Party under Bill Clinton has switched his allegiance to Barack Obama and is encouraging fellow Democrats to "heal the rift in our party" and unite behind the Illinois senator.

Joe Andrew, who was Democratic National Committee chairman from 1999-2001, planned a news conference Thursday in his hometown of Indianapolis to urge other Hoosiers to support Obama in Tuesday's primary, perhaps the most important contest left in the White House race. He also has written a lengthy letter explaining his decision that he plans to send to other superdelegates.

"I am convinced that the primary process has devolved to the point that it's now bad for the Democratic Party," Andrew said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.

Bill Clinton appointed Andrew chairman of the DNC near the end of his presidency, and Andrew endorsed the former first lady last year on the day she declared her candidacy for the White House.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080501/ap_on_el_pr/superdelegates



woohoo!



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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:25 AM
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1. K&R. He's getting closer and closer to 2024!
:thumbsup:
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:09 AM
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19. My, my. Yet another name to the Clinton's dead to me list.
:kick:
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:21 AM
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76. If too many Democrats are dead to the Clintons
at some point the Clintons will be dead to the Democrats.

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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:36 PM
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111. Nice turn of phrase there. Bravo! n/t
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:29 AM
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42. youre right, he probably will be such a great president
that theyll change election limit laws.

good call!

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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:26 AM
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2. This is good news!
And I totally agree with him. This late primary process has been nothing but a blessing for the republicans!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:46 AM
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25. This is huge, him being a real insidery insider
It's The prescription for some serious Mobama.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:11 PM
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80. And, Joe Andrews endorsed hilary early
and since the primary campaign has had more information to base his decision on!
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:37 AM
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3. Yes We Can
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:38 AM
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4. ::ANGRY FINGER POINTING MONKEY::
JUDAS!! JUDAS!

JUUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

Now with that out of the way-

:party: :bounce: :dem: :woohoo: :kick: :grouphug:


GOBAMA!!!
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rch35 Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:03 AM
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5. dont be an idiot....
Edited on Thu May-01-08 03:05 AM by rch35
everyone knows the angry finger pointing monkey was a staunch edwards supporter.

:P
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:22 AM
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10. LMAO
my bad...I forgot that little fact in all the angry finger painting.....er, pointing!!
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rch35 Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:09 PM
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79. haha, be careful now skyounkin
:D
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:13 PM
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82. Yeah, if carville thought Guv Richardson was
a Judas what's he gonna come up for this guy for May Day?!
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #82
103. How about "Filthy Trotskyite wrecker of the People's Motherland"
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:21 AM
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6. Interesting.
I'll vote for the Democrat. And I don't care which one.
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Jensen Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:41 AM
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7. Yes, We Can! Fired UP, Ready to Go!
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Chrisnreno Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:54 AM
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8. Very encouraging news. n/t
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:10 AM
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9. You can't see the dance I'm doing right now, but know this... there's plenty of pelvic thrusts.
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pompano Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:46 AM
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24. I would be dancing to....
Edited on Thu May-01-08 06:47 AM by pompano
but with this arthritis, age, and hip things just dont thrush like they used to. They vote though, and thats what counts, no? :rofl:

I would if I could.

Great News.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:17 PM
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84. Whoa..kinda early to be
dancin'!
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curiousdemo Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:29 AM
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11. Hillary...Do you get this picture...
:hi: Hillary...:kick: :toast:
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rubu1120 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:43 AM
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13. Billary
Obama has this thing in the bag. Billary should drop it already!
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Richbru Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:10 AM
Response to Reply #13
40. I agree he'll probably win....
but I fear he'll lose to Mccain in a landslide.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:32 AM
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43. Your candidate is trying to make certain he loses
:grr:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:19 PM
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85. Yeah,
DUH.."I fear he'll lose to mccain in a landslide"..:wtf: little henny pennys.
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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:36 AM
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45. How can he lose to McCain when his party is bailing ship...
Many republicans I know have jumped ship to vote for Obama and the others say they just won't vote. The only way the republican party can win is by stealing (electronic voting machines) it again and I don't think we will let that happen (will we?). I've never seen any candidate who can get people to cross lines like Obama. This is a good indication how he will be running his presidency. YES HE CAN!
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:46 AM
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62. I know an evangelical family who liked Huckabee, hate McCain, and will vote for Obama. It's true. nt
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no1dolo Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:09 AM
Response to Reply #40
50. Not if we Demos stick together!
Most don't want another 4 years of Bush!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:43 AM
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61. Hell, most Indies & Republicans don't, either!
And McCain = Bush's 3rd term.

:woohoo:
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:30 AM
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57. Hillary is such a polarizing, divisive figure...
Edited on Thu May-01-08 09:33 AM by Liberal_Stalwart71
I don't understand why Hillary supporters keep repeating ad nauseum that she can beat McCain.

First, the electoral map actually favors EITHER Democrat over McCain. Any Democrat will win CA, MA, NJ, NY. It is simply a LIE that Obama or any Democrat won't win Democratic strongholds.
Second, Obama's 50-state strategy will force McCain to spend money in places like Ga, VA, and other swing states where Obama runs strong with Indies like myself
Third, Obama has proved his organizational prowess and fundraising skills
Fourth, he will have the backing and support of the entire Democratic Establishment and we all hope that the Clintons will stop their deceitful behavior and try to work with him to unite the party
Fifth, Hillary's negatives are far too high. She can't seem to break the 40% threshold. That's a problem. And that's why the Repugs want to run against her so badly. Don't fall for the fallacy that they suddenly like her. They want her as the nominee and they'll turn on her. ALL OF THEM!
Finally, the Republican party would unite and galvanize like we've never seen if Hillary is the nominee. That's just how much they hate her and the Clintons.

I have a difficult time understanding why Hillary supporters can't see this. Is it because they hate Obama more than they love the Democratic party and their country?

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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:39 PM
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112. But what the Clintons have done with a degree of success
Is try to paint Obama with smears so she can say "You think I'm bad? OK, I am but he is just as bad as me now and I'll be better at smearing McCain."
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:40 AM
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59. Welcome to DU... but... Picture a Debate: Obama vs. McSame... mmmm (thought bubble over my head)...
Bumbling old man who can't remember what he said during any question, low on facts, tied like a two ton anchor to Bush policies and decisions

vs.

Young, articulate, intelligent, energetic, new Democratic voice


NO CONTEST.

He will wipe the floor with McSame. The contrast will LEAP off the screen like a flock of frogs.

Mmm... mmm.... good!
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:18 AM
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75. After that debate, he'll have McCain voting for him
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:21 PM
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86. Bwaawawawawawawaawaaa
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #40
89. I doubt Mac can win after such a awful bush regeime
but you may be right. Diebold can win it for the GOP.
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junior college Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:59 PM
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117. Damn
I forgot about that
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:58 PM
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99. he won't. McCain is getting a good ride on name recog. wait until
obama faces his sorry ass in a debate. But welcome anyway, six posts. thanks for the deep analysis.
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:15 PM
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101. mccain is also getting a free ride while we are in-fighting.
When a nominee is decided, and i PRAY it will be Obama, mccain will be placed under the microscope. I CAN'T WAIT!!!
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:41 AM
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12. Is this a net +2 superdelegate swing for Obama?
It sounds like this guy was a superdelegate supporting Hillary that changed to Obama. So is this one superdelegate less for Hillary AND one more superdelegate for Obama? I'm not sure if I have this right.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:41 AM
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60. Yes, you have it right.
Welcome to DU! :hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:23 PM
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87. Thanks for pointing that
out!
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SmellsLikeDeanSpirit Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:50 AM
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14. Slowly but surely...
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:31 AM
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15. K&R YES!!!! n/t
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:52 AM
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16. But ...but how can that be possible?
After all, the networks are reporting this morning that the momentum "might" be shifting to Hillary. Note their disclaimer "might". . .just another manipulative "news" headline. Gosh...ABC had that as their LEAD story, with a special notation about...you guessed it...Rev. Wright.

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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:54 AM
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38. SDs don't speak FOR the people. Hope this causes a backlash. nt
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:04 AM
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49. well, since the only way that HRC can win is through superdelegates
That kinda leaves you stuck, doesn't it. Can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.

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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:20 AM
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53. I really don't get it . . .
I saw another Hillary supporter yesterday claim that that sd votes weren't democratic.
What the hell is their stategy now?
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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:43 AM
Response to Reply #16
47. I stoped watching the networks...we all should stop watching them
to protest their non-news tabloid state. It reminds me of one of those books written in the 40's where everyone is being spoonfed news (propaganda) without questioning it. Where are the thinkers? With the cost of higher education it makes me wonder if they want to create more non-thinkers!
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:01 AM
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48. I took a slightly different tack
I hear Rev. Wright, I fast forward for five minutes. It works well since I record most of the shows.

I find it amazing how the media acts as if it is Reverend Wright that is hurting Obama, and not their constant blathering on about him, and trying to push the guilt-by-association thing onto him.
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #48
116. Exactly!
What was/is more harmful to Obama and America?

..the actual words spoken the day of that sermon to an accepting audience?,
..or the repeated playing of it, with ominous pontification on the side, every day for weeks on multiple channel television?


The MSM, purposely going out of their way to stir up racial tension in the country. I don't think most of them have any kind of Anti-Obama agenda, they are simply addicted to spectacle. Or the ratings and money that comes with it. And race riots would make a great story. As does a close battle between Hillary and Obama. The GOP are still in bed with the MSM. They sit up in bed later every night and watch themselves on TV, eating crackers and caviar. It suits both of them for different reasons. Limpballs encourages Repugs to vote Hillary when shes down. If Obama is somehow irreparably injured with more bad press, you'll start to see the Hillary ammo come out, and they have enough of that to take them thru '08.

But that all said, Obama can easily take on old man McCain. Once he's 100% focused on the real job at hand, winning the Presidency. He has what it takes to put Wright behind him and move on and take the narrative with him.
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Alii Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:54 AM
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17. SD differential now under twenty, closing fast.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:57 AM
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18. That is great!
I have been watching for those that switch. Obama is nearing a critical mass of SD support that will avalanche to him.

this should put the gap at 17!!!
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Alii Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:27 AM
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20. ABC has it a 16 point differential.
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:18 PM
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102. Go Obama!
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pompano Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:36 AM
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21. I can see right now...
they are going to have to put Bill's finger on a spring, hinge or sumpin' nuther as a sprocket replacement. There is going to be a "Whole Lot of Shaking Going On." :rofl: :sarcasm:

GOOD NEW FOR OBAMA.

Is that a light we finally see at the end of the tunnell?



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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:42 AM
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22. And its about time
Let's see if the media can cover a story like this...
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:44 AM
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23. k&r n/t
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:47 AM
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26. Well, since it's a switch of someone declared that's a pickup of 2 for Obama.
Subtract one from Clinton. Add one to Obama. What's the difference now? 16?
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:28 AM
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56. Democratic Convention Watch . . .
Has Clinton: 260; Obama 243.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:30 AM
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58. Is this switch included? If not, then it's now 259 to 244...
15 apart. If so, then it's gone from 19 to 17. Either way that lead is shrinking, as well.
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:00 AM
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63. it is included
5-1-08 - Moved DNC Joe Andrew (IN) from Clinton to Obama.


http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html
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Alii Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:49 AM
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27. From Indianapolis...
Edited on Thu May-01-08 06:50 AM by Alii
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage

Evan Byah is going to have a hemorrhage. Two so far out of Indiana, next?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #27
88. I hope he has something that gives
him some brain matter back.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:52 AM
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28. Very good news! This needs to end , so we can focus on our true objective:
kicking Republikkkan arse.:applause:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:53 AM
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29. So this is not only a plus for Obama, but a minus for Clinton?
Getting closer. This guy might spur more endorsements today.
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:59 AM
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30. Key paragraphs from your article
"He has shown such mettle under fire," Andrew said in the interview. "The Jeremiah Wright controversy just reconfirmed for me, just as the gas tax controversy confirmed for me, that he is the right candidate for our party."

Andrew's decision puts Obama closer to closing Clinton's superdelegate lead. Clinton had a big advantage among superdelegates, many of whom like Andrews have ties to the Clintons and backed her candidacy early on. But most of the superdelegates taking sides recently have gone for Obama, who has won more state contests.

Obama now trails her by just 19 superdelegates, 244-263. This week, he picked up eight superdelegates while she netted three.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:41 PM
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91. Sorry mainstream mediawhores.. NOT THIS TIME
"He has shown such mettle under fire," Andrew said in the interview. "The Jeremiah Wright controversy just reconfirmed for me, just as the gas tax controversy confirmed for me, that he is the right candidate for our party."
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:05 PM
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109. exactly - he has shown great ability in rising above the supposed weights that are supposed to end
his campaign, and instead, has shown what a real leader should be like! Big gains are coming his way. I bet next Monday he'll get a bunch more!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:00 AM
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31. net 2 already this morning.
nice.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:05 AM
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32. hillary`s got them chicago blues today.....
"Where
where
where
where
where
Where is the next one comin' from?"


buddy guy-"where is the next one comin` from"
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:19 AM
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33. And his message is really clear

follow me. :-)
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:19 AM
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34. Well, alrighty then. Come on SDs, do the damned thing!!
This is made even sweeter 'cause he switched at this point in the race.


:kick:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:43 PM
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92. Prescisely
"He has shown such mettle under fire," Andrew said in the interview. "The Jeremiah Wright controversy just reconfirmed for me, just as the gas tax controversy confirmed for me, that he is the right candidate for our party."
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:26 AM
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35. This is a perfect example of the advantage Hillary had in this campaing
They are cashing in every favor Bill every did for people. However her behavior so terrible and so destruction even these people that owe the Clintons (like Richardson) just can't stomach her.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:36 AM
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36. I missed the word "UNDER" in the first paragraph my first read-through
That' another story...

=)
this is hughhhhhhhhhhh!!!111111!!1
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:45 AM
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37. K & R
:thumbsup:
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no1dolo Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:03 AM
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39. Now, This Is It!
I have been worried but no longer. This guy is a real "insider"! He's bound to know what the real talk is around the other SDs. If he is making this change it's a real signal. (question - how many 'reals' can I use in one posting?) Unless there is an unexpected a political meteor shower .......OBAMA HAS THE NOMINATION! :party:
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no1dolo Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:26 AM
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41. Please ....Help Me!
All right! All right! All right! I give up. I have been trying for a couple of weeks to figure the answer to this question. It has baffled me and confused my brain. I've pulled my hair out and now am bald. I can't keep food down....I'm losing weight. Please tell me before I waste down to nothing. My question is ....... What does K&R and n/t stand for in these posting? :dunce:
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:34 AM
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44. Kick and Recommend, and No Text N/T
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:11 AM
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52. n/t is used in the subject line to show there is nothing--"no text" in the message,
Edited on Thu May-01-08 09:13 AM by ima_sinnic
so if you're scrolling through the listing of subjects, you know there's no message that you're missing by reading only the subjects. "eom"--end of message--is also used in this way.

One thing that drives me up the wall is when the poster puts "nt" in the message area instead of in the subject line. That defeats its entire purpose.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:16 AM
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67. Welcome to DU, no1dolo
Here's a DU glossary, lots of cool inside-jokes in there!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x190
:hi:
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:07 PM
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113. Thanks for the link, yodermon...
It had been a while since I'd read the glossary, and I really needed the laughs! We really are in our own universe here at DU, aren't we?
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no1dolo Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:56 AM
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71. Thanks, all! nt
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:42 AM
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46. Obama's principled stand on gas tax... strong "mettle under fire" re: Wright
Edited on Thu May-01-08 08:43 AM by chill_wind
"While I was hopeful that a long, contested primary season would invigorate our party, the polls show that the tone and temperature of the race is now hurting us," Andrew wrote. "John McCain, without doing much of anything, is now competitive against both of our remaining candidates. We are doing his work for him and distracting Americans from the issues that really affect all of our lives."

Andrew said the Obama campaign never asked him to switch his support, but he decided to do so after watching Obama's handling of two issues in recent days. He said Obama took the principled stand in opposing a summer gas tax holiday that both Clinton and McCain supported, even though it would have been easier politically to back it. And he said he was impressed with Obama's handling of the controversy surrounding his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.



Good news! K&R


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:47 PM
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94. This is Awesome News and freakin'
vindication after last night's frustrating, hand wringing episodes.:)
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:10 AM
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51. K&R
Good news.
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FreeStateofWinston Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:22 AM
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54. Well I guess that means.....
Carville will be making the rounds around again calling this guy Judas also. I think he should probably go ahead and be proactive and just say anybody who used to support the Clinton's in the past and now support Mr. Obama will now be referred to by him as JUDAS.
The bottom line is that all these former Clinton supporters know them well, and yet they are choosing to support Barack Obama instead. This speaks volumes in my opinion. Seems to me that even the Washington insiders are hungry for change from the same old, same old.

GoBama!!!!!!!!!!

:applause:
:patriot:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:49 PM
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95. Welcome to DU, FreeStateofWinston
carville will have to pick another name out for Andrews on May Day:)
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:26 AM
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55. Kick for 'Here comes the cavalry!'
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no1dolo Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:01 AM
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64. Good comes from Bad ...Thank you, Rev Wright
Joe Andrews said "He (Obama)has shown such mettle under fire," Andrew said in the interview. "The Jeremiah Wright controversy just reconfirmed for me, just as the gas tax controversy confirmed for me, that he is the right candidate for our party."

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clevbot Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:05 AM
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65. YES WE CAN!!!!!
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:15 AM
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66. dead
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:24 AM
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68. ker-SNAP..... yeouch
mm hmm

k/r
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:31 AM
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69. time for the floodgates to open!
Joe is right!
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no1dolo Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:41 AM
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70. 3 MORE SDs FOR OBAMA!
Obama picks up 3 more Illinois superdelegates: Daley, Currie and Stroger.
WASHINGTON--When the Democratic Party of Illinois meet next week to finish filling out the delegate slate, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) will pick up three more superdelegates, according to Steve Brown, a spokesman for state party chair Michael Madigan, who is also the speaker of the Illinois House.

That's because the three appointments are all pledged to Obama: Mayor Daley --he shares strategist David Axelrod with Obama and brother Bill, the former Commerce Secetary is on the Obama team; Illinois House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie (D-Chicago), a Hyde Parker who lives near the Obamas'; and Cook County Board President Todd Stroger.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/05/obama_picks_up_3_more_illinois.html
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:51 PM
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96. 3 more! Wow!
Thanks cc!
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:59 AM
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72. I'm surprised Nedra didn't dlip in a slam.
An actual objective and accurate article from her? Are my eyes deceiving me?
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:00 AM
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73. Awesome!
The trickle is becoming a flood!

GOBAMA :bounce:
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:08 AM
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74. Ouch!

"He said he had not called the Clintons to tell them of his decision, in part because it would have prompted that campaign to let out 'their attack dogs' even sooner."

Remarks like that make me think he hasn't just decided the primary needs ending for the sake of the party's chances in the general election. Like a lot of Clinton supporters he seems to have come to some unpleasant conclusions about the Clintons in general after the past few months.


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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:47 AM
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78. Ouch indeed.
If you warn them, they immediately start slagging you in the press.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:56 PM
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98. WOW..I haven't read the article yet..so
caught up in the moment! Finally some accountability for bilary.
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:38 AM
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77. Here is the full text of former DNC Chairman Andrew's Letter to the Super Delegates . . .
Its powerful. Its "spot on." And, its timed to help Indiana voters make the right decision in their upcoming primary. Note to John Edwards - There is a primary coming up in N.C., too. Let us hear from you!

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May 1, 2008

Dear Friends:

I have been inspired.

Today I am announcing my support for Senator Barack Obama for President of the United States of America. I am changing my support from Senator Clinton to Senator Obama, and calling for my fellow Democrats across my home State of Indiana, and my fellow super delegates across the nation, to heal the rift in our Party and unite behind Barack Obama.

The hardest decisions in life are not between good and bad or right and wrong, but between two goods or two rights. That is the decision Democrats face today. We have an embarrassment of riches, but as much as we may love our candidates and revel in the political process that has brought Presidential politics to places that have not seen it in a generation, we cannot let our family affair hurt America by helping John McCain.

Here is my message, explained in this lengthy letter that I hope is perceived as a thoughtful analysis of how to save America from four more years of the misguided polices of the past: you can be for someone without being against someone else. You can unite behind a candidate and a vision for America without rejecting another candidate and their vision, because in real life, opposed to party politics, we Democrats are on the same side. The battle should not be amongst ourselves. Rather, we should focus our efforts on those who are truly on the opposite side: those who want to continue the failed policies of the last eight years, rather than bring real change to Washington. Let us come together right now behind an inspiring leader who not only has the audacity to challenge the old divisive politics, but the audacity to make us all hope for a better America.

Unite the Party Now

I believe that Bill Clinton will be remembered as one of our nation's great Presidents, and Senator Clinton as one of our nation's great public servants. But as much as I respect and admire them both, it is clear that a vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to continue this process, and a vote to continue this process is a vote that assists John McCain.

I ask Hoosiers to come together and vote for Barack Obama to be our next President. In an accident of timing, Indiana has been given the opportunity to truly make a difference. Hoosiers should grab that power and do what in their heart they know is right. They should reject the old negative politics and vote for true change. Don't settle for the tried and true and the simplistic slogans, but listen to your heart and dare to be inspired. Only a cynic would be critical of Barack Obama inspiring millions. Only the uninformed could forget that the candidate that wins in November is always the candidate that inspires millions.

I ask the leaders of our Party to come together after this Tuesday's primary to heal wounds and unite us around a single nominee. While I was hopeful that a long, contested primary season would invigorate our Party, the polls show that the tone and temperature of the race is now hurting us. John McCain, without doing much of anything, is now competitive against both of our remaining candidates. We are doing his work for him and distracting Americans from the issues that really affect all of our lives.

We need to be talking about fixing the economy, not whose acquaintances once said what to whom. We need to be talking about stopping the attacks in Iraq, not stopping the attacks in Indiana. We need to be talking about policy, not politics.

Barack Obama is the Right Candidate for Right Now

While I am a longtime critic of our Party's rules that created so-called super delegates, we have the rules we have and we must live with them. I am humbled and honored to be a super delegate, and I understand the seriousness of the duty it entails. I recognize that this is a difficult decision for super delegates like me, who owe so much to President Bill Clinton. It is right to be loyal, to be grateful and to be consistent. But it is also right to acknowledge the inevitability of change, right to dare to dream for a better world, and right to know what in your heart is the right thing for the future even if your friends and family disagree. Good things, just like good people, can disagree. But as Democrats, we must disagree with dignity, debate with admiration of each other, and in the end, go forward with mutual respect.

President Clinton and Vice President Gore gave me the opportunity to serve as the Chair of the Democratic Party. I pledged my loyalty to them, and I will never forget Al Gore putting ego aside, gently demurring, and simply asking me to put our country ahead of politics. It is a lesson I will remember forever, and it is what guides me now in this decision. What is best for our Party and our country is not blind loyalty, but passionate support for the candidate who can best correct the misguided policies of the last eight years.

We need a candidate who will re-invigorate the economy and keep good jobs here in America. We need a candidate who will end the war in Iraq. We need a candidate who will provide health coverage for our 45 million uninsured neighbors. We need a candidate who will end our addiction to high-priced foreign oil by investing in renewable energy here at home.

That candidate is Barack Obama.

What was best for America sixteen years ago was electing Bill Clinton. What would have been best for America eight years ago was not only electing Al Gore, which we did, but allowing him to serve as President of the United States. Imagine how the world would be different if Al Gore and not George Bush, would have been President of the United States. Let's seize the opportunity and vote for someone who like Al Gore, was against the war from the beginning, and who brings a new energy, a new excitement, and a new politics to our country.

Let’s put things right.

Time to Act

Many will ask, why now? Why, with several primaries still remaining, with Senator Clinton just winning Pennsylvania, with my friend Evan Bayh working hard to make sure Senator Clinton wins Indiana, why switch now? Why call for super delegates to come together now to constructively pick a president?

The simple answer is that while the timing is hard for me personally, it is best for America. We simply cannot wait any longer, nor can we let this race fall any lower and still hope to win in November. June or July may be too late. The time to act is now.

I write this letter from my mom's dining room table in Indianapolis, Indiana. Four generations of my family have argued and laughed around this table. But what I humbly believe today is that we, as Democrats and as Americans, face what Dr. King characterized and what Senator Obama reminds us is the fierce urgency of now. As a nation, we are at a critical moment and we need leaders with the character and vision to see us through the challenges at hand and those to come. I can't guess what will happen tomorrow, so I can't tell you what kind of experience our next President will need to have to deal with those challenges. But I can tell you what kind of character and vision they will need to have -- and that is what inspires me about Barack Obama.

As Democrats, however, we risk letting this moment slip through our fingers. We risk ceding the field to the Republicans and allowing the morally bankrupt Bush Agenda to continue unabated if we do not unite behind a single candidate. Should this race continue after Indiana and North Carolina, it will inevitably become more negative. The polls already show the supporters for both candidates becoming more strident in their positions and more locked into their support. Continuing on this path would be a catastrophe, as we would inadvertently end up doing Republicans work for them. Already, instead of the audacity of hope, we suffer the audacity of one Democrat comparing John McCain favorably to another Democrat. When that happens, you know it is time for all of us to stop, take a deep breath and unite to change America.

We must act and we must act now.

The Problems of the Process: 2000 and 2008

When Al Gore got a half million more votes than George Bush in 2000, yet the Electoral College elected George Bush President, we saw the absurdity of any system that does not elect the person who gets the most votes. That is why the Democratic Party's nomination process is flawed. I will continue to fight for a 2012 process where there are only primaries, and which ever Democrat gets the most votes becomes our nominee. Delegates should decide the party platform -- voters should decide who our nominee is.

But we are struck with this absurd system for 2008, and, flawed though it may be, we must work within it without betraying the voice of the people. No amount of spin or sleight of hand can deny the fact that where there has been competition, Senator Obama has won more votes, more States and more delegates than any other candidate. Only the super delegates can award the nomination to Senator Clinton, but to do so risks doing to our Party in 2008 what Republicans did to our country in 2000. Let us be intellectually consistent and unite behind Barack Obama.

A New Era of Politics

My endorsement of Senator Obama will not be welcome news to my friends and family at the Clinton campaign. If the campaign's surrogates called Governor Bill Richardson, a respected former member of President Clinton's cabinet, a "Judas" for endorsing Senator Obama, we can all imagine how they will treat somebody like me. They are the best practitioners of the old politics, so they will no doubt call me a traitor, an opportunist and a hypocrite. I will be branded as disloyal, power-hungry, but most importantly, they will use the exact words that Republicans used to attack me when I was defending President Clinton.

When they use the same attacks made on me when I was defending them, they prove the callow hypocrisy of the old politics first perfected by Republicans. I am an expert on this because these were the exact tools that I mastered as a campaign volunteer, a campaign manager, a State Party Chair and the National Chair of our Party. I learned the lessons of the tough, right-wing Republicans all too well. I can speak with authority on how to spar with everyone from Lee Atwater to Karl Rove. I understand that, while wrong and pernicious, shallow victory can be achieved through division by semantics and obfuscation. Like many, I succumbed to the addiction of old politics because they are so easy.

Innuendo is easy. The truth is hard.

Sound bites are easy. Solutions are hard.

Spin is simple and easy. Struggling with facts is complicated and hard.

I have learned the hard way that you can love the candidate and hate the campaign. My stomach churns when I think how my old friends in the Clinton campaign will just pick up the old silly Republican play book and call in the same old artificial attacks and bombardments we have all heard before.

Yet, despite the simple and overwhelming pressure to do anything and everything to win, Barack Obama has risen above it all and demanded a new brand of politics. People flock to Senator Obama because they are rejecting the hyperbole of the old politics. The past eight years of George Bush have witnessed a retreat from substance, science, and reason in favor spin, cronyism and ideology. Barack Obama has dared not only to criticize it, as all Democrats do, but to actually reject playing the same old game. And in doing so, he has shown us a new path to victory.

Uniting for Victory

The simple fact is that Democrats need to be united in November to win, and Clinton supporters, in particular, will be vital to victory. We will not convince Clinton supporters to join the Obama campaign, however, by personally criticizing them. We must welcome everyone and avoid doing Republican work for them. It is therefore incumbent on all of us who once supported Senator Clinton to welcome the thousands who should now switch their support to Senator Obama. Similarly, a necessary part of the healing process for our Party is for those who supported Senator Obama early to have the grace and good sense to broaden the tent and welcome newcomers into the fold.

The old players of the old political game will claim that I am betraying my old friend Senator Evan Bayh by switching my support to Senator Obama. I believe that Evan Bayh would be a great President, and therefore a great Vice President. I will continue to argue that he would be a great choice to be on the ticket with Barack Obama. Evan Bayh is uniquely positioned as a successful governor with executive experience who is now a U.S. Senator with foreign policy experience and who is young enough to not undercut the message of vitality and hard work that Barack Obama represents. Part of healing the Party may be to have a Clinton supporter on the ticket, let alone someone who would help with Indiana, Ohio and the moderate Midwest in the general election.

Being for Evan Bayh, however, does not mean that you have to be for Hillary Clinton. The important message to Hoosiers, and to super delegates, is that being for someone does not mean that you agree 100 percent of the time. Regardless of whether Evan Bayh and I support different candidates, I will support Evan Bayh.

We must reject the notion that we have to beat the Republicans at their own game -- or even that the game has to be played at all. It is so easy for all of us involved -- candidates, campaigns and the media -- to focus on the process and the horse race that we forget why we got into it in the first place. Barack Obama has had the courage to talk about real issues, real problems and real people. Let's pause for a second in the midst of the cacophony of the campaign circus and listen.

In 1992, I was inspired by Bill Clinton because he promised, and delivered, a framework for addressing America's problems. President Clinton ended a long-running left-right debate in our Party, and inspired millions. He drew giant crowds and spoke passionately for a generation of Americans who often disenfranchised and rarely participated in governing. Today, Barack Obama does the same thing. Winners redefine the game. Winners connect with the American people and not only feel their pain, but inspire them to take action to heal the underlying cause. Barack Obama is that kind of candidate and that kind of leader, which is why he will win in November.


Welcoming Everyone into the Party

We face significant challenges as a nation and as a Party, but time and again, Americans have shown the resilience and determination necessary to overcome even the highest obstacle. We have a difficult road ahead, but I have complete confidence that Barack Obama is the candidate who can lead our Party to victory and the President who can guide us to even greater heights.

Many Democrats know me for one short speech I gave over and over again in the 2000 Presidential campaign. That speech was about welcoming people into our Party and welcoming undecided voters to our campaign to elect Al Gore. Today, we need to welcome Clinton supporters, undecided voters, and all Americans to join Barack Obama's cause to fight for a better America. My speech ended with these words, which are even more relevant today:

The difference between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party is that you are always welcome in the Democratic Party.

Because Democrats don’t care if you are black or white or brown or a nice shade of green, you are welcome in the Democratic Party.

We don’t care if you pray in a church or a synagogue or a temple or a mosque, or just before math tests, you are welcome in the Democratic Party.

We don’t care if you are young or old, or just don’t want to tell your age, you are welcome in the Democratic Party.

We don’t care what gender you are, or what gender you want to hold hands with; as long as you want to hold hands, you are welcome in the Democratic Party.

We don’t care about the size of your bank account, just the size of your heart; and we don’t care where you are today, just where you dream you want to be tomorrow.

That is your Democratic Party.

That is Barack Obama's Democratic Party.

That is the Party that will win in November.

Sincerely,


Joe Andrew

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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:13 PM
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81. big step-it needs to be stated....more of this to come
Edited on Thu May-01-08 12:51 PM by katty
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:14 PM
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83. "Democratic National Committee chairman from 1999-2001"?
Not something you would want to brag about exactly I would think considering how badly the party did back then.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:45 PM
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93. Yeah, that Terry McAuliffe
was a true winner! :sarcasm:
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:34 PM
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90. once you go back you never go barack
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Z.e.r.o Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:54 PM
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97. "i feel good"
...to quote Claire McCasKill quoting James Brown, that is. :D
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/sen-claire-mccaskill-james-bro.php
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:59 PM
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100. That's Right...I remember reading that
last night.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:38 PM
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104. Yes Yes Yes - Keep them comin' - We'll take all we can get and soon please!!
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
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katerinasmommy Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:39 PM
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105. Let the Cries of "Judas" commence! N/T
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:13 PM
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106. K&R
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:22 PM
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107. So far today
Clinton picks up 5 and lost 1
Obama picked up 2

That give Clinton a net of 2 today so far, but takes six more off the table. She s actually doing better today (so far at least)than she needs to on average.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:34 PM
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108. And now it appears 3 more for Obama
http://www.washingtonindependent.com/view/illinois-supers-go

nine off the table, with a net pickup of 1 for Obama.
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Leo 9 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:28 PM
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110. Defection of longtime superdelegate jolts Clinton
Defection of longtime superdelegate jolts Clinton

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent
32 minutes ago


SOUTH BEND, Ind. - Hillary Rodham Clinton was jolted Thursday by the defection of one of her longtime superdelegate supporters, a former national party chairman who urged fellow Democrats to "reject the old negative politics" and unify behind Barack Obama.

"A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to continue" a long, self-destructive Democratic campaign, Joe Andrew added in a letter designed to have an impact on the turbulent race nationally as well as in his home state of Indiana, site of a primary next week.

"A vote to continue this process is a vote that assists John McCain," Andrew wrote.

snip

In his letter, Andrew not only challenged Clinton's claims about electability, but he also bluntly denounced the type of campaign tactics practiced by some in the Clinton circle.

"If the campaign's surrogates called Governor Bill Richardson, a respected former member of President Clinton's cabinet, a "Judas" for endorsing Senator Obama, we can all imagine how they will treat somebody like me," he wrote.

snip

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080501/ap_on_el_pr/democrats
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:35 PM
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115. I was awaiting her response -
and I love they say she was jolted. Maybe she's jolted enough to quit at the end of voting this Tuesday night...
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Veracious Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:29 PM
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114. Hillary IS GOING DOWN!
WOOOT! B A R A C K the V O T E!
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:15 AM
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118. Rec #99
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:06 AM
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119. Andrew is right, HRC is now a liability to the Dems and should step down
so that the party unites behind the obvious Nominee so that we can win back the White House and Kick John McCains you know what. We need the time to round up the troops behind the front runner who is Obama and will remain so as well. Time to start hitting out at the republicans. I was so happy to see the Democratic ads that are coming out but we need to have Obama involved as well.
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