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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:29 PM
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AP: Barr announces Libertarian White House bid
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:32 PM by Tesha
Source: AP via the San Francisco Chronicle

Barr announces Libertarian White House bid



By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer
Monday, May 12, 2008

Former Republican Rep. Bob Barr launched a Libertarian Party
presidential bid Monday, saying voters are hungry for an
alternative to the status quo who would dramatically cut the
federal government.

His candidacy throws a wild card into the White House race
that many believe could peel away votes from Republican Sen.
John McCain given the candidates' similar positions on fiscal
policy.

Barr said he is not getting into the race to play spoiler
or to make a point.

"I've heard from Americans from all walks of life ... they
want a choice," he said at a news conference in Washington.
"They believe that America has more and better to offer
than what the current political situation is serving up
to us."

"We intend to succeed," he said.

<more>

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/12/politics/p062145D40.DTL
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:30 PM
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1. Good. k*r
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:30 PM
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2. A rather disgusting human being
but he did leave the grand old party because he hated that bush was trashing the constitution to fight terrorists.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:40 PM
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8. Yep, and he has been working with the ACLU since then. n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:52 PM
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13. That *IS* amusing, isn't it? (NT)
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:31 PM
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3. where do I donate?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:32 PM
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4. No kidding! The "Ross Perot Factor", 2008 model! (NT)
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:33 PM by Tesha
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:41 PM
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53. That was exactly my first thought.......2008 CON model
Hallelujah!!
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:33 PM
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5. I hope he has lots of followers with lots of $$$$$$
Are you watching over your shoulder, Mr. McCain?

Bwahahahahahahahaha.:rofl:
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:18 PM
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19. What's the "reporting threshold" these days?
Is it contributions above $100 that are reported?
$250? Or some completely different number?

Tesha
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:20 PM
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51. Ron Paul would be a good Veep for him, just to make him look handsome.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:34 PM
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6. He wants to spend less time with his family. n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:48 PM
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12. He's already tired of "the new model"??? (NT)
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:36 PM
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7. Supporter of the Patriot Act. What a rabid champion of civil liberties and freedom.
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:36 PM by ryanmuegge
That's like running a candidate who voted for the Iraq War as the nominee of an anti-war pa....oh, wait.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:53 PM
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15. Don't forget DOMA; he was the author and one of the sponsors. (NT)
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:54 PM by Tesha
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Traction311 Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 02:00 PM
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30. He hates the UnPatriot Act
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 02:08 PM
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31. Votes speak for themselves.
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Traction311 Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 02:21 PM
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33. He talks about how anti-civil liberties it is every chance he gets now
I see him more as a paleo-conservative than a libertarian anyway.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 02:25 PM
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34. I think that ("paleo-conservative") is a fair assessment. (NT)
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:43 PM
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43. Actually, he's one of the biggest detractors of the Patriot Act
Bob Barr has done a near 180 since he left office - working closely with the ACLU, for example. Although he was a total Repug scumbag when he was in Congress (he was my congressman for a while), some of the stuff he's done since is downright reasonable.

And besides - anyone that is likely to draw votes from John McCain is just fine by me. Now, if we can get Ron Paul in to run as an independent...
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:41 PM
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9. He and Ron Paul should attract a fair number of
disenchanted libertarian voters who might otherwise vote Republican.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:43 PM
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10. here is his website
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:44 PM by leftchick
for those who want to contribute

:evilgrin:

http://www.bobbarr2008.com/?gclid=CJi6q__AoZMCFREGkgodt1MqrA

Meet Bob
Bob Barr

Bob Barr represented the 7th District of Georgia in the U. S. House of Representatives from 1995 to 2003, serving as a senior member of the Judiciary Committee, as Vice-Chairman of the Government Reform Committee, and as a member of the Committee on Financial Services. He now runs a consulting firm, Liberty Strategies LLC, headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia and with offices in the Washington, D.C. area.

Bob Barr chose to join the Libertarian Party because at this time in our nation’s history, it is essential to join and work with a party that is 100 percent committed to protecting liberty.

Bob Barr has served as Regional Representative of the Libertarian National Committee.

Bob Barr works tirelessly to help preserve our fundamental right to privacy and our other civil liberties guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. Along with this, Bob is committed to helping elect leaders who will strive for smaller government, lower taxes and abundant individual freedom.

:whatever:
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:45 PM
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11. Excellent!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:53 PM
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14. Great news for our side!
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:53 PM by ayeshahaqqiqa
I have a feeling he will siphon off a lot of conservative votes that would otherwise go to the GOP. (Edited for clarity)
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:34 PM
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48. Yes he will. He is very against immigration. Most Repugs hate the brown people.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:04 AM
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57. Yeah, but too bad he still doesn't give a #&%( about your average American)
Considering it's Bob Barr we're talking about, that's not surprising. At least our civil liberties might be defended, if nothing or no one else.
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Pappy Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:00 PM
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16. Ron Paul is still in the race
You know, Ron Paul is still campaigning and collecting money. He is hoping to play spoiler at the Republican Convention. We should all support him just because he has been such a hard to kill flea on the republican dogs back.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:10 PM
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17. I heard him on Hannity a few weeks ago threatening to do this
Hannity was NOT happy. He tried to play it down but knows this is bad for the GOP. :evilgrin:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:14 PM
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18. Wheeeee!
:bounce:

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:19 PM
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20. This is what .... his third announcement of this, this cycle?
I guess that's his campaign strategy ...... keep announcing. hey .... who can blame him? Its free media.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:23 PM
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22. No, this is the first "official" announcement.
The earlier ones were the usual "exploratory commitee" sort
of stuff

Tesha
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:18 PM
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50. And he still hasn't won their nomination yet
Apparently there is some opposition to him inside of the Libertarian Party, but he will probably win anyway.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:23 PM
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21. always clear the chamber, Bob
at least the weapon is pointed at your former party's foot this time.

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:24 PM
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23. Was Barr the one who was notorious for his behavior in titty bars? Or was that Delay?
I keep getting the depraved Republicans mixed up.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:45 PM
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49. I believe he was instramental in the impeachment of Bill Clinton.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:07 AM
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60. Yet,I thinkt hat he resigned after his own affair was reveald..
Edited on Tue May-13-08 07:15 AM by Stuart G
Perhaps I am wrong,,,,,,,,,this article from Wikepedia says he never resigned till 2003........
Role in Clinton impeachment

Barr is best known for his role as one of the House managers during the Clinton impeachment trial. It was Barr who first introduced a resolution directing Judiciary Committee to inquire into impeachment proceedings<34> -- months before the Monica Lewinsky scandal came to light. Chief among the concerns Barr cited at the time was apparent obstruction of Justice Department investigations into Clinton campaign fundraising from foreign sources, chiefly China.<35>

In 1999, during the impeachment trial of President Clinton, Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt offered money to anyone who could provide evidence that a prominent Republican had engaged in an extramarital affair. According to the American Journalism Review, "Barr was one of 13 House Republicans chosen to act as prosecutors in Clinton's Senate trial. Barr, Flynt's investigators found, "was guilty of king-size hypocrisy": An outspoken foe of abortion, the Georgia lawmaker had acquiesced to his then-wife having an abortion in 1983. And he had invoked a legal privilege during his 1985 divorce proceeding so he could refuse to answer questions on whether he'd cheated on his second wife with the woman who is now his third."<36>


.............since leaving Congress in 2003, Barr has become a vocal opponent of the Patriot Act and has stated that he regrets voting for it, claiming that the Bush Administration has used it to further erode due process even in nonterrorism matters. He claims that the Clinton administration did much of the same thing.<30> In 2005--the year the Patriot Act was due for renewal he helped found an organization called Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances, a bipartisan group dedicated to eliminating aspects of the Patriot Act that could potentially affect law-abiding citizens rather than terrorists, and to "restore traditional checks and balances on government power so the country can effectively fight terror without sacrificing the rights of innocent Americans, rights that are guaranteed by the Constitution."<37> Barr still serves as the group's chairman.
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not fooled Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:45 PM
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67. yeah, I thought at first...
...that the shameless hypocrite was running for the nom of the "Libertine"-arian party :silly:
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ToughLuck Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:27 PM
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24. Go Bob Barr, you are making my day..just not McCain's.. ha ha!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:36 PM
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25. Best news I have heard all day. Run, Bob, Run! He knows exactly what he is doing.
He is fed up with the NeoCons.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:37 PM
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26. I think with this, McCain is ready for butter and jam!
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:40 PM
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27. The Libertarians have a pretty interesting lineup this year
even Mike Gravel is running there. I hope Ron Paul manages to do something effective at the RNC convention that helps us, but I wonder if may not be better if he joined the Libertarian race too.

I believe Bob Barr was for Kerry last time. This is very interesting.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:58 PM
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29. Ron Paul can't run as a Libertarian.
Most states have "sore loser" election laws which prevent candidates who ran for an office in a party primary from running for that same office as a third party or independent.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 02:18 PM
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32. And I believe he said he wouldn't do it either.
But I hope he does something, even if he just urges his supporters to vote L.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:00 PM
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37. Were those created after John Anderson's 1980 run?
I ask because Anderson was on the ballot in every state.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:19 PM
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46. Most of them were.
Not every state has them but most of the large states do. The Republicans and Democrats got together in these states to strangle independent runs.
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:08 PM
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38. Obviously, not in Connecticut...
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:39 PM
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41. Side note: I take it Connecticut is not one of them.
n/t
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:42 PM
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42. The "sore loser" laws typically only apply for running as an independent.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:16 PM
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45. They apply to third parties also.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:50 AM
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56. Connecticut coulda used such a law
Edited on Tue May-13-08 12:53 AM by sheeptramp
Lieberman would be working as a consultant, or lobbyist, or something.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:54 PM
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28. the only decent thing
he ever did for this country: may he split the Gross Old Perverts wide & deep.
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MrBlueSky Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:12 PM
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35. Tesha... I'm not comfortable with this...
While, like you and the other commenters here who relish the idea of vote siphoning from McLame...

I cannot stand Barr...

Wasn't he one of the Clinton Impeachment Managers in 1998-99?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:50 PM
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36. yes he was one of them nt
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:59 AM
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58. I'm pretty comfortable with winning in November, and if Republicans have to...
...contend with their own "Nader effect", that doesn't
disapoint me at all.

Tesha
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:25 PM
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39. Barr was polling ahead of Ralph Nader in one poll
This will be an interesting election...
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:33 PM
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40. Licked whipped cream off a stripper's tits, and was part of the GOP's Ken Starr Brigade...
Go, Bob, go! This should be entertaining as all get-out.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:44 PM
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44. Guess the war's going to end soon after all. nt
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:21 PM
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47. K&R This is huge and damn good for the Dems.
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ToughLuck Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:20 PM
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52. I wonder if by tommorow Rush and Hannity will be bashing Barr.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:51 PM
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55. They won't even mention it.
Because they'll be too busy crapping themselves...............

:woohoo:
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:00 AM
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59. The media doesn't kill a candidacy by speaking negatively about it.
They kill a candidacy by *IGNORING* it.

Ask Dennis Kucinich or John Edwards how that works.

Tesha
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:41 PM
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54. Good. He's purely a whackadoodle. But he'll peel a few
votes from the other whackadoodle, McCain, and that can't but be a good thing!
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Freedom Train Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:39 AM
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61. Good! If he becomes the Nader of '08
I will gladly forgive him for what he did to Bill in the 90s.

Off topic: He has a really untrustworthy look about him, don't you think? Can't quite put my finger on it, but it's there. Used car salesman or something...
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:12 PM
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62. (It's the Republican still inside him.) (NT)
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:59 PM
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63. THANK YOU!
:hi:
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:29 PM
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64. You're welcome -- I thought it was good news too. (NT)
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:39 PM
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65. Good! Split those fools right down the middle.
:patriot:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:43 PM
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66. YEEHAA!1! GO BARR!!11!!!
Suck up them McCain votes!
YEAH!
:bounce:
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