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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:04 PM
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McCain Backer John Hagee Apologizes to Catholics
Source: WSJ

John Hagee, the controversilettal Evangelical pastor who endorsed John McCain, will issue a letter of apology to Catholics today for inflammatory remarks he has made, including accusing the Roman Catholic Church of supporting Adolf Hitler and calling it “The Great Whore.” (See a copy of the letter PDF.)

“Out of a desire to advance greater unity among Catholics and Evangelicals in promoting the common good, I want to express my deep regret for any comments that Catholics have found hurtful,” Hagee wrote, according to an advanced copy of the letter reviewed by Washington Wire. “After engaging in constructive dialogue with Catholic friends and leaders, I now have an improved understanding of the Catholic Church, its relation to the Jewish faith, and the history of anti-Catholicism.”

In the letter, addressed to Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League and one of Hagee’s biggest critics, Hagee pledges “a greater level of compassion and respect for my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ.”

Hagee met with 22 Catholic leaders in Washington on Friday to apologize for his comments, according to a source familiar with the meeting. Despite the McCain’s condemnation of Hagee’s anti-Catholic remarks, the campaign had no role in that meeting or Tuesday’s apology, according to the source who said it was something Hagee did because he felt it was necessary.

Donohue is expected to release a letter in response today, accepting Hagee’s apology. The Catholic leader slammed both Hagee and McCain in February, releasing a statement titled “McCain Embraces Bigot.”

Read more: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/05/13/mccain-backer-john-hagee-apologizes-to-catholics/?mod=WSJBlog
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:08 PM
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1. Sorry for calling you a Naziesque whore.
My bad.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:48 AM
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50. So when is this fat fart going to apologize to the Jews?
Mr Fat Fart Hagee is on record calling for the total extermination of all but 144,000 male Jewish virgins at Armageddon. And those lucky 144,000 will kneel down before JC and convert to Christianity.

Oh and when is that greedy gasbag going to apologize to gays and lesbians, too? Fat chance of that happening...
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:08 PM
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He's apologizing
because he wants McCain elected, not because he is truly sorry or repentant.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:27 PM
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9. This gives MSM cover "Look he apologized for it"
this issue is officially dead ...as far as MSM is concerned
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:08 PM
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2. well hell....ol' hagee's OK, then.....
GMAFB!!
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:09 PM
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3. He'll back track on this just like he did with his Katrina comments
wait and see
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:09 PM
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4. looks like the Repukes are preparing
for the possibility of Kathleen Sebelius as the Dem vice presidential candidate.

coming soon to RW Hate Radio near you, "Obama's a MUSLIM, and Sebelius is a BABY KILLER who should be excommunicated".

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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:29 PM
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11. Yes they are, her bishop is already on her case
To repent publicly to the official definition of pro-life (no exception) and do everything to repent but kiss the bishop's ring.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:16 PM
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5. greater unity among Catholics and Evangelicals in promoting the common good"
yeah need to gather allies against us evil secularists.

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barnel Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:21 PM
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6. 'and now, back to wars for Israel'
Edited on Tue May-13-08 12:25 PM by barnel
i'm Catholic, I didnt care about his remarks on Catholics, because he means nothing to me. he's just a stupid little pig with no moral authority whatsoever

his warmongering, however, is another matter

ever listen to this creep hagee?

guy WANTS nuclear war! and he doesnt just preach for it, he lobbys for it in washington. he's as dangerous as he is nuts. most dangerous preacher in the usa, as bad as any muslim nutjob

to make Christ come back, and reign in Israel, so everyone 'good' will be spared the consequences of an elective nuclear war

'thou shalt not put lord G-d to the test' is what comes to mind for me
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:27 PM
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10. Donahue does not make Catholics look any better
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:49 PM
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15. true that n/t
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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:46 PM
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25. I'm sorry, but did you say "little" pig???
He's a pretty BIG porker, if you ask me. And always chastising others about losing weight!!! (Just teasing you!)

Otherwise, I agree with all that you say. This guy is a whacko and a very dangerous whacko on top of that.

I can't believe there are actually people who are foolish enough to give their hard earned money to someone like Hagee, but here in good ole San Antone, the parking lot is overflowing every Sunday morning!!

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Texano78704 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:27 PM
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33. Millenarianism
In a modern wrapper. It stunk then and it stinks now. But Hagee, as one of the highest paid televangelists, makes a mint off of it.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:23 PM
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7. Seems sincere to me....
:sarcasm:
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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:26 PM
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8. Catholics may be required to forgive, but forget? Not likely.
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downindixie Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:29 PM
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12. Just another political stunt
by Mcsenile and Hagee! Of course Hagee isn't serious in his apology!
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:35 PM
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13. Apologizing?
For the only thing he ever got right.
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:37 PM
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14. What else did the nut case say that brings question to McCain's
JUDGMENT! The sword can cut both ways...
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 03:57 PM
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23. Media Matters has a list of them
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ToughLuck Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:49 PM
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16. TOO bad Haggee, cats out of the bag already!
Edited on Tue May-13-08 12:51 PM by ToughLuck
Once a looney, always a looney..that, you are stuck with Haggee.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:50 PM
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17. You're gonna have to do a LOT better than that, you lying sanctimonious overstuffed
Edited on Tue May-13-08 12:50 PM by calimary
douchebag. Or scumbag, as you prefer.

So says this Catholic.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:58 PM
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18. I thought the Pope was the leader of the Catholics. Not Donowhore.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:15 PM
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19. "I apologize if anyone was offended - and I'm really sorry I got called on my bullshit!"
:eyes:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:45 PM
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20. Now Compare This Situation to How the MSM reacted to Wright
To those who already know why I said that:

:popcorn:

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:11 PM
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35. And Wright's reaction.
Can't leave that out.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:23 PM
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56. or igil's for that matter
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:37 PM
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21. FUCK HIM!!!!!!!
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:50 PM
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22. He didn't really apologize for what he said
He regretted that Catholics found his remarks hurtful. That's not an apology. He didn't say that he didn't mean what he said or that he takes it back or that he regretted making the remarks. He only regrets that Catholics were offended.
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darue Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:17 PM
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38. another "if anyone was offended..." weasel apology. typical of their kind n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:13 PM
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24. Breaking News: Phyllis Diller apologizes to Fang
He makes his career about attacking (among other things) Catholics as a cult and now he wants to apologize and say "no hard feelings."
I could apologize to hot dogs, but I won't stop eating 'em.
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:16 PM
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26. Fuck You, Hagee! Apology NOT accepted!
Diviner!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:30 PM
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27. If you want a real wake up call as to what this geezer is about
surf to the xtian cable channel where he has a tv show. I accidentally stumbled across it and this guy is an absolute madman. Pictures of scantily clad women riding on lions with five heads, pictures of jet planes crashing with the 'unsaved' after the rapture. All in big billboard form behind his podium.

This guy is bat shit insane.

Of course the media will never play his crap, but its there for anyone to see on cable
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:38 PM
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28. The old repug non-apology apology.
"I want to express my deep regret for any comments that Catholics have found hurtful."
Translation: "I'm not sorry for what I said/did. I'm sorry if YOU found it offensive."
putz
:eyes:
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:33 PM
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29.  Televangelist John Hagee apologizes to Catholics
Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON - John Hagee, an influential Texas televangelist who endorsed John McCain, apologized to Catholics Tuesday for his stinging criticism of the Roman Catholic Church and for having "emphasized the darkest chapters in the history of Catholic and Protestant relations with the Jews."
ADVERTISEMENT

Hagee's support for McCain has drawn cries of outrage from some Catholic leaders who have called on McCain to reject Hagee's endorsement. The likely Republican nominee has said he does not agree with some of Hagee's past comments, but did not reject his support.

In a letter to William Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Civil and Religious Rights, Hagee wrote: "Out of a desire to advance a greater unity among Catholics and evangelicals in promoting the common good, I want to express my deep regret for any comments that Catholics have found hurtful."

Donohue, one of Hagee's sharpest critics, said he accepted the apology and planned to meet with Hagee Thursday in New York.

"I got what I wanted," Donohue said in an interview. "He's seen the light, as they like to say. So for me it's over."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080513/ap_on_el_pr/hagee_letter



I wonder how sincere this apology really is.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:33 PM
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30. He sounded sincere. I think they are just petrified
about a Democrat winning the WH. Of course, Hukabee and some ultra-religious types think the US deserves to be plagued with an Obama presidency. If you believe anything that Novakula says any more:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3278741&mesg_id=3278741
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 08:21 AM
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52. He sincerely regrets .... yes - but he did NOT apologize.
He expressed regret for "any comments that Catholics have found to be hurtful". Sorry John but that is not an apology. He could be just regretting that he made the comments out loud and it caused a shitstorm.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:38 PM
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31. Those pigs never apologize. This is a "cleanup" for McCain. nt
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:46 PM
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32. I don't buy it
And neither should any Catholic would-be supporters of John McCain.

This also only addresses ONE outrageous comment that this ass-clown has made (who can forget his blaming of Hurricane Katrina devastation on homosexuals?)

Some other choice Hagee moments:

• the Harry Potter books are "witchcraft"
• Hagee supports a joint Israeli-American preemptive strike on Iran
• a future president of the European Union will be the antiChrist
• the Quran contains a "mandate to kill Christians and Jews"

This guy is seriously dangerous, but hey! Let him keep spouting this boolsheet--all the more stuff to make McCain red-faced and apoplectic in November!
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:46 PM
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34. Let's Get Hagee And Donohue In An Arena For A Fight

I'd damned sure buy a ticket....
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:10 PM
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36. Whatever
Hagee....

I don't buy it.
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darue Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:14 PM
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37. I think this ass-wipe really needs to just apologize to everyone everywhere n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:18 PM
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39. Judging by the speed of the Vatican's forgiveness
The Rev. Hagee should expect an apology in say, the year 2358 or so.

Given the speed of Galileo's absolution, anyway.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:33 PM
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40. So he's a politically expedient hypocrite as well as a psychotic bigot
:thumbsup:
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:43 PM
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41. If God truly spoke through him and so forth, why would he be concerned with political expedience
if he truly answers to a higher power and all of that nonsense.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:55 AM
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54. That's right. Did God misspeak the first time?
If not, this apology is just a CYA campaign tactic
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:49 AM
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42. Televangelist John Hagee apologizes to Catholics
Source: (AP)

Televangelist John Hagee apologizes to Catholics

By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer
38 minutes ago



In this April 6, 2008, file photo influential Texas evangelist
John Hagee of Christians United for Israel addresses a crowd
of his followers and Israeli supporters at a rally at the
Jerusalem convention center.


WASHINGTON - John Hagee, an influential Texas televangelist who endorsed John McCain, apologized to Catholics Tuesday for his stinging criticism of the Roman Catholic Church and for having "emphasized the darkest chapters in the history of Catholic and Protestant relations with the Jews." Hagee's support for McCain has drawn cries of outrage from some Catholic leaders who have called on McCain to reject Hagee's endorsement.

The likely Republican nominee has said he does not agree with some of Hagee's past comments, but did not reject his support. In a letter to William Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Civil and Religious Rights, Hagee wrote: "Out of a desire to advance a greater unity among Catholics and evangelicals in promoting the common good, I want to express my deep regret for any comments that Catholics have found hurtful."

Donohue, one of Hagee's sharpest critics, said he accepted the apology and planned to meet with Hagee Thursday in New York. "I got what I wanted," Donohue said in an interview. "He's seen the light, as they like to say. So for me it's over."

The controversy had threatened to pursue McCain throughout the campaign, potentially hurting his standing with Catholic voters. A narrow majority of Roman Catholics voted for President Bush in 2004 and for Al Gore in 2000, critical votes in close elections.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080514/ap_on_el_pr/hagee_letter



- So the Catholics are no longer the Great Whores anymore??? Well who the hell ARE the Whores??? There are always Whores somewhere.

Somebody get me some whores in here, dammit!!!!!
========================================================================
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http://atheisttoolbox.com/">The Atheist Toolbox
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:49 AM
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43. Donohue is the new whore. nt
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:49 AM
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44. Ahhh yes... Donahue.
Edited on Wed May-14-08 04:46 AM by DeSwiss
The "shower" of where the light is. Otherwise known as "The Secret Enforcer for Opus Dei. But I have to say they must have some pretty good stuff, if they can make Hagee back down.

- Maybe Hagee has some "whores" of his own in his background. With pictures....



on edit: spelling
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:49 AM
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47. And he decisively took the issue off the table. No tit for tat, there. Not that there was any,
anyway, but it might have worked for those who don't pay attention.

What's next? Benedict for VP on the GOP ticket?
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:49 AM
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45. I think this might mean that McCain intends to use Wright to go after Obama.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:49 AM
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46. True. Maybe that way they'll cancel each other out.
But I'm betting he'll go with the "Hillary Option" and play the race card. He's got little else.

- In times of trouble, people often to go with their baser instincts...

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:49 AM
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48. What do you mean...might? Of course that's the plan. They did a test run in NC already.
Obviously, it tested well, so they have to clean up their own little mess before they go forward.

I'm guessing the national campaign won't touch this with a ten foot pole. It will be all local, just like NC.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:45 AM
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49. Hagee will choke before he apologizes to the gays, lesbians & New Orleans
Ok, the catholics have been cleared by Hagee, but there's MUCH more he needs to apologize for.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 08:16 AM
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51. I want to express my deep regret for any comments that Catholics have found hurtful,”
Heh - that is no apology. "I want to apologize for my hurtful comments about Catholics" - now that would be an apology.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 09:52 AM
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53. It's not really MUCH of an apology, is it?
So, if Hagee REALLY doesn't believe anymore that The Pope is The Antichrist, then who does who believe is The Antichrist?

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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:12 PM
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55. When does he apologize for saying that Katrina was punishment for gays?
On last night's primary coverage, Chris Matthews tore into Mike Huckabee about that comment. Huckabee said that Hagee didn't speak for all evangelicals. When pushed by Matthews he said that John McCain "ran away from that statement like a scalded dog from hot oil".

So, it's OK to run like a scalded dog from what Hagee said, but Obama couldn't say that he didn't agree with Rev. Wright? I mean, when you listen to the wingers talk, we're not supposed to make anything at all of the fact that John McCain SOUGHT this idiot's endorsement.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:26 PM
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57. Hagee, you can Fuck Off ....POS that you are....
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