Biden calls Bush comments 'bullshit'

[sabra]

Source: CNN

(CNN) — The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joe Biden, D-Delaware, called President Bush’s comments accusing Sen. Barack Obama and other Democrats of wanting to appease terrorists "bulls–t” and said if the president disagrees so strongly with the idea of talking to Iran then he needs to fire his secretaries of State and Defense, both of whom Biden said have pushed to sit down with the Iranians.

“This is bullsh**t. This is malarkey. This is outrageous. Outrageous for the president of the United States to go to a foreign country, sit in the Knesset…and make this kind of ridiculous statement,” Biden said angrily in a brief interview just off the Senate floor.

“He’s the guy who’s weakened us. He’s the guy that’s increased the number of terrorists in the world. His policies have produced this vulnerability the United States has. His intelligence community pointed that out not me. The NIE has pointed that out and what are you talking about, is he going to fire Condi Rice? Condi Rice has talked about the need to sit down. So his first two appeasers are Rice and Gates. I hope he comes home and does something.”

He quoted Gates saying Wednesday that we “need to figure out a way to develop some leverage and then sit down and talk with them.”

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/15/biden-calls-bush-comments-bulls-t/

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edit: CNN changed it to 'bullshit'

[maddezmom]

1. I'll say it again

I love Joe :thumbsup:

[Joe Bacon]

37. WOW

I wonder if KO's remarks from last night wound Joe up???????

[frogcycle]

49. nope

Joe doesn't need KO to wind him up.

Not disparaging KO - I love him too, but I have met Joe Biden and seen his encyclopedic knowledge, insight, and passion first hand. Joe is not as erudite as KO, but he is every bit as passionate.

In this particular case, "bullshit" is as erudite as is needed. :rofl:

God love ya, Joe!

[1_cali_dem]

116. Mr. Biden

:headbang: I've liked Joe's tell it like it is demeanor for a long time. VEEPEE, or Secretary of state, he would be jes ducky in either slot:woohoo: :woohoo:

[ginchinchili]

122. How awkward it would be to have someone more qualified than the president...

working as their vice-president or SOS. If Democrats really cared about what is best for this country rather than making some meaningless, imbecilic political statement, then Joe Biden would be the Democratic nominee and, thus, the next president, because there would be no question as to who would win between him and McCain. Biden makes Obama and Clinton look like the novices they are. It's a shame that the Republicans aren't the only party run by fools.

[Muttocracy]

132. it does feel backward, but Reagan and Bush2 were inexperienced

compared to many of their VP/cabinet members. Not the way I want it, but it has been done. I'd be happy to have Biden in the admin. as long as he's a strong Sec. of State or VP with heavy foreign policy portfolio - and as long as he wants to do it.

[1_cali_dem]

161. It Does My Heart Good

to know that _wow_ I am not the only one who Thought that Joe was most the qualified candidate (at least w/ reagrds to foreign policy) on those early debate stages. Those around me (mostly republicans) told me He'd never get there, and to their credit they were correct; however I still feel he is one of the best dems. to handle foreign policy and would be a great boost for Obama's less than stellar credentials on same. That being said I am and have been proudly supporting Obama for his message of change, and the ability he seems to posess to make things happen. GOBAMMA! GOJOE!:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :applause:

[gateley]

164. Hi 1 Cali Dem!

Welcome to DU! :hi:

Come on over to the Joe Biden Support Group forum -- there are some die-hard Bidenites there, you'll be among like-minded people!!

[immoderate]

166. Not so...

People in the cabinet are chosen because they are specialists in their fields. It is ridiculous to assume that a president would be more experienced in all these specialties than all of his cabinet. It is the job of president to gather the best knowledge, make judgments, and implement that as policy. It is also ridiculous to take someone who has supreme expertise in just one area and make him the president just because of that.

Note that I am not endorsing the other extreme, as in George Bush who has no knowledge about anything (except maybe baseball) and no judgment or temperament to boot. :dunce:

--IMM

[knixphan]

173. YES, yes and YES.

[Krashkopf]

117. REC this thread if you want OBAMA to start talking that way, too!

Take Joe's lead, Barack!

WE, the People, are tired of politicians who won't stand up, and push back, HARD, against the worst, most unpopular president ever.

[redqueen]

162. No... that's idiocy. (nt)

[Lone_Star_Dem]

2. I couldn't have said it better myself.

:thumbsup:

[Magleetis]

3. FUGWB

Your BS doesn't fly anymore. You are the problem and we have the solution.

O
The President.

[Binka]

80. FUGWB Indeed!

[midnight]

107. Love the photo. Where are you at? The both of you are

adorable.

[Binka]

119. On Mt Etna in Sicily!

We lived there for three years. Beautiful place. I miss it weve been back in the USA for a year. What a time to come home. GOBOMA!!!!

[greiner3]

152. "On Mt Etna in Sicily!-We lived there for three years."

Looks sort of bleak; I'm just saying! :rofl:

[gateley]

4. This is why I wanted this man for our President - he tells it like it is.

And we all benefit from having him in DC doing his good works. He's got our backs.

[Supersedeas]

69. a real voice from the Senate -- Harry Reid, please take note

[ginchinchili]

124. What a shame that we decided not to put America's best interests first...

by nominating the most qualified candidate of all the primary candidates who tossed their hats into the ring, Joe Biden. We my not have the likes of Sen. Biden to choose from for president ever again. Perhaps we don't deserve to.

[NJmaverick]

5. Wouldn't it technically be bushshit?

[orleans]

7. not if you let your grade school mentality or sunday school

"correctness" get in the way.

on edit:

apparently, cnn was all about grade school mentality and sunday school correctness when this first appeared.

[WheelWalker]

125. It would, on reflection; but that's not the visceral form of the noun.

[orleans]

6. sabra! when you quote you don't take out words/letters and put in "**"

the quote was:
"“This is bullshit. This is malarkey. This is outrageous. Outrageous for the president of the United States to go to a foreign country, sit in the Knesset…and make this kind of ridiculous statement,” Biden said angrily in a brief interview just off the Senate floor."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/15/biden-calls-bush-comments-bulls-t/

i was gonna ask you how someone says "bullsh**t"

as it turns out he didn't.

he said "bullshit"

if it's breaking news, please don't tamper with the quotes!

[sabra]

8. CNN changed the headline - all I did was copy and paste :-)

though I did make the edit... just for you... :hi:

[orleans]

10. sorry. thanks for the edit. n/t

[CoffeeCat]

56. Are you an editor?

I'm a writer, and I can't imagine reading blog posts with an editor's eye. You'd go bonkers!

[orleans]

57. when i clicked the link the entire word was spelled out. apparently

their original did say "bullsh**t"

i, too, am a writer (who does a lot of editing).

[Virginia Dare]

9. Wow, are the Dems on the Hill getting a wee bit pissed?

bush has been steamrolling over us for 7 1/2 years now....it's about damn time. I know I've been in a blind rage for some time now.

[gateley]

14. Joe has been pissed at Bushco for a LONG time --

He told Rumsfeld to his face he'd fire him if he could, then turned to Cheney and said "And Mr. Vice President, I'd fire you, too."

I REALLY wanted him for our President.

[JoDog]

11. It's about time

Someone on the Hill said it!

[IsItJustMe]

12. Sound like Biden has a litte fire in his belly. Tell it like it is Joe.

[deadmessengers]

13. Biden for VP!

I still think Joe Biden would be a GREAT VP complement for Obama - he's smart as hell, doesn't pull his punches, and has foreign policy credentials out the provebial wazoo. Of course, I thought he would make a great President, but I was in the distinct minority there :)

[ToughLuck]

15. I agree 100% deadmessengers! Love ya Joe..perfect response!!

Keith O will probably be talking about this tonight!!

[bdamomma]

18. Senator Biden good that you are paying attention.

impeachment anyone?

[gateley]

23. I was part of that minority, deadmessengers.

We would have been well served, and he would have leveled with us every step of the way.

[JI7]

120. i would support it , Biden is kicking ass here

[earthlover]

121. I agree! Biden would be great as VP!

Of course, so would Clark, Edwards

[Bleacher Creature]

16. This is why I try and use restraint on swearing.

Not because of some silly moral high ground or Pollyannish principles, but because of the idea that you should use curse words to add appropriate emphasis. This is a great example.

What Bush said was pure, unadultered BULLSHIT. That's the perfect word to describe it and I'm so thankful for people like Senator Biden for not pulling any punches.

[2008]

17. In defense of President Bush...

...he shouldn't be blamed for what he says, because he doesn't have the first clue about what's happening around him, whether in the world at large, or within his own administration. He also appears to be incapable of controlling the nonsense that comes out of his mouth.

[Virginia Dare]

22. That's an explanation, but not an excuse..

he clearly has never been up to the task of being a world leader. This just underscores that fact.

[14thColony]

43. Not up to the task of being a world leader?

Hell I doubt he could lead people out of a burning building.

[0rganism]

46. maybe too much credit there

If he were left alone in a burning toolshed, it's unclear whether he could lead himself to the door.

[Virginia Dare]

51. Doors are a big puzzle for old shrubya...

[14thColony]

174. Suddenly imagined

that Farside cartoon of the boy pushing hard on the door that says 'Pull.'

[0rganism]

176. I think I remember that one...

Wasn't there a sign over the door saying, "School for the Gifted" or some such?

[14thColony]

177. Yes! That's the one!

Must've been Yale...

[2008]

63. I think he should have been a circus barker

He might have had a lot of fun with that, and the rest of us wouldn't feel like we're wandering around in a waking nightmare.

[kineneb]

19. 'bout damned time. Speak truth to power. nt

[Zachstar]

20. Finally we are standing up to that monster of a president.

Now lets take this to impeachment and trial!!

[WheelWalker]

21. Mother of Buddha, how I love that man!

[mcollier]

24. Our Nominee has more support than Bush thinks

How dare bush disrespect Obama on the world stage. You would have thought Obama had sent our country into an unjust war or something.

Like KEO said. Shut the hell up!

[gateley]

25. ...

:hug: :wave:

[Debi]

26. GO JOE!

If you haven't read it - go get it!

[complain jane]

27. Awesome! Finally!

[Muttocracy]

28. SFRC has a hearing at 2pm about to start, on China - video link:

I bet Bush's general failure might come up...

Live Broadcast of Todays Hearing:
U.S.-CHINA RELATIONS IN THE ERA OF GLOBALIZATION

live link at top of http://foreign.senate.gov/index.html

details on hearing and later archive via links off that page.

[Muttocracy]

34. Biden's got his jacket off now - it's either warm in D.C. or he's had a heated day! nt

[Virginia Dare]

52. Actually it's rather pleasant here today..

I'm guessing old Joe is lathered up, and I don't blame him. Keep the fire, Joe!

[Muttocracy]

29. you know what, with Biden not having endorsed yet, noone can accuse him of bias! Even better! nt

[SpiralHawk]

30. Go, Joe

Tell that freaking AWOL republicon preppy incompetent to shut up and sit down.

[N4457S]

31. Biden...

...reacted the way he did because he was upset. Whether or not it's a lie, isn't the point.

What Bush said has been a very effective argument when used against liberals running for the White House in the past.

[Mad_Dem_X]

32. That's my Senator!

:yourock:

[stlsaxman]

85. you are one lucky sumbitch!

i wish he was Senator...

more still, our candidate. ;)

[petepillow]

153. Mine too! I got to vote for him in the primary, and it felt GREAT.

America has no idea what it gave up by not embracing Biden's candidacy. Not that the press was any help...

Biden for VP, Sec of State, something in the top tier to ensure that his influence is felt, and not just heard on the occasional talk show.

[murbley40]

156. Mine too!

Our country has not even begun to see what a mistake it was not to nominate him........but we will!
I get to vote for him again, in his Delaware Senate race.

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[Earth Bound Misfit]

41. That's It! I'm putting your sorry a$$ on ignore!!!

@#$%& GrovelBot!!! :nuke:

:rofl:

[DemoTex]

35. Bu$h's loud fart in a quiet church: the Knesset speech.

And it was a timber-shaking stinkeroo.

[Dr Fate]

36. I like it when DEMS talk like NORMAL PEOPLE. Thanks Joe- this is B.S.

And I am SOOOOO glad he used that exact term.

The "measured" sound-bite responses of the past 8 years got us nowhere- this is the exact corrrect response in my opinion.

[Muttocracy]

39. Biden is often corny-clean, so for him to scream bullshit means something :)

[Rambis]

38. JoBama!

We need a pit bull as VP and Joe fits the bill- He has experience I think he would give em hell! Edwards needs to be Attorney general.

[Earth Bound Misfit]

44. JOE IS THE BEST!

Obama/Biden, w/ Edwards as Sec of Labor.

[Jennifer C]

75. YES

:toast:

[Maria Wr]

40. Now I have a new hero..Go Joe!

He said, " Bullshit!"
That's calling it what it is! Are Dems getting a backbone? (God please say yes).

[WheelWalker]

42. Joe's got a heart of gold and a spine of stainless steel.

[0rganism]

47. too bad they're not contagious

If we had a senate full of steel-spined, gold-hearted Democrats, our problems would be over, and fast.

[gateley]

55. Hi, Maria!

Welcome to DU! :hi:

Joe's always had a backbone. Just ask any one of us in the Joe Biden Support Group here on DU -- and come on over!

[Maria Wr]

91. Thanks for the welcome, Gately...I'll come visit!

[Old Smokey]

45. Fantastic !!!

Between Olberman telling bush to shut the hell up and now Biden callin' bullshit ......shaping out to be a good day.

Call 'em like you see 'em. Great job Joe !!!!!

[boobooday]

48. JUMPIN' JOE BIDEN!!!!

That's the way you do it.

:patriot:

[kirby]

50. If Bush were the Dixie Chicks, he would be isolated. n/t

[JaneQPublic]

53. Biden for Sec. of State! (And Edwards for Atty General!) (nt)

[AspenRose]

54. Love you Joe!

[bdamomma]

88. that's a nice picture of him.

[Mad_Dem_X]

151. I don't always agree with him, but

times like this make me damn proud he is representing my state!

[frogcycle]

58. I was at a couple of Joe's campaign rallys in Iowa

This is not new, nor a change of heart. It is just that it is getting covered. I can't remember the exact phraseology, but he quite bluntly said we had an absolute incompetent in the White House, and made references to the "crowd" or "gang" of thugs or some similar word surrounding him. I think he probably used the expressions "utter bull" or "bs" a couple of times.

[Earth Bound Misfit]

78. Reminds me of Joe's commentary after Chimpy's SOU

"Out of touch with the American people"
"Devoid of what the American people are talking about"
"Devoid of reality"
"The most disengaged speech I've ever heard, in a(n) SOU"
"The military guys did their job...and the president was AWOL"
"What was this about"

The full interview with KO & Tweety:http://youtube.com/watch?v=2zAIoVWeoKk

JOE IS THE BEST!!:toast: :kick:

[JerseygirlCT]

59. I heard Kerry today saying essentially the same thing

I want a big fat pile-on!

[dipsydoodle]

60. The bi-product of being born with head up you own arse

is that your feet are closer to your mouth - as is the case with his Dimness : King George.

[lonestarnot]

61. k&r

[FreepFryer]

62. THANK YOU SENATOR BIDEN. (n/t)

[DrZeeLit]

64. Biden for VP! He can say what needs to be said -- in attack dog mode!

[krabigirl]

65. Love him! That's great - give 'em hell!

[Wizard777]

66. Go Joe! You gotta love that straight shooting son of a gun.

[BayjanDem]

67. Way to call it Joe!

Lets applaud President Meathead for once again, making all of us proud to be Amurkins. Did you in your wildest dreams, ever think this guy would be this bad.

[Owl]

68. Obama/Biden

Just sayin'.

[graycem]

70. He's on MSNBC right now

hitting him for the stupidity of it again. Go Joe! :D

[Born_A_Truman]

71. Wasn't it Bush's ...

grandfathers who assisted the Nazis?

[jwirr]

72. When he referred to Hitler someone should have asked him about

his grandfather and where the bush money came from. He is a fool to bring this up. They should also have followed the money back to the Nazi origins of Halliburton.

[AntiFascist]

73. K&R, Bush spouts so much BULLSHIT, few take him seriously anymore...

The Bush family has a history of arming Israel's enemies.

The Bush family has a history of providing laundered funds to Osama bin Ladin.

The Bush family historically has illegally done business with the NAZIs !!

George W. is trying to play Israeli sympathies against Obama, but he and his cohorts would love nothing better than to continue the tension and suffering in the Middle East.

[SoxFan]

74. OBAMA/BIDEN!

[livvy]

76. No bullshit from Joe, and I say, "Thank you, Senator!" Knr #50.

:patriot:

[KathieG]

77. Love Joe! Telling it like it is.

[bajamary]

79. Bush's Grandfather supported the Nazis

Gee, I don't understand why the people of Israel allowed Bush to speak as his grandfather was a banker for the Nazis.

[Stinky The Clown]

81. He may be 'Windy Joe', but he's OUR Windy Joe.

You tell 'em. Joe!

Huzzah! Huzzah!

[madmom]

82. Thinking about what b*sh said and where he said it, now correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't

that very similar to what the Dixie Chix were raked over the coals for? Really in my opinion it's worse because of where he is and who he is (or pretending to be).

[Uncle Joe]

83. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, sabra.

[darue]

84. IMPEACH - IMPRISON - luck this traitor the hell up. n/t

[cyr330]

86. Republicans are sure to ask for an apology--

What a joke-- after Cheney told Senatory Leahy to go "fuck himself" on the floor of the Senate. . .(!)

[Jersey Ginny]

106. Watch, Democrats will bend over and say "sorry" for such bad language

I'd like to see Democrats start to get a spine.

[colorado thinker]

87. Joe Biden

President in 2016?

[Muttocracy]

95. He'll be "too old" then - he's 65 (though his mom is 91 now)

That's why I would have loved a Biden/Obama ticket - 8 years of each.

[Think82]

147. Nah, Biden could do it in 2016. He's bionic.

[poebango]

89. JB for VP & JE for AG

I am thinking Joe Biden for Obama's VP and John Edwards for Attorney General.....

[theothersnippywshrub]

90. Biden is right, but it actually is a compliment to be crticized by Oedipus Tex.

To be criticized (especially on foreign policy) by the world leader who, in all of recorded history, clearly and overwhelmingly is the most ignorant, the most stupid, the most dishonest, the most incompetent, the most messianically delusional, the most obsessed with fucking his own mother and thereby outdoing his father, the most petty, and the most vindictive is actually a compliment. High praise in fact.

[WheelWalker]

126. Come on - don't hold it back. Let me hear how you REALLY feel !

[elleng]

92. Folks, Joe should be President,

and should choose his own attorney general.

I'm pissed about entirely different things, but feel that I have to add this. I'm afraid Dems are going down.

and edw may have been a good trial lawyer; says NOTHING about his ability to be a/g.

[WheelWalker]

102. I couldn't agree with you more, comrade; and, I written the same here many times before. nt

[stickernation]

93. note to chimpy: and whose grandfather FUNDED hitler ?!

so * is accusing obama of appeasing like hitler ?

PRESCOTT BUSH ***FUNDED*** HITLER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





can of worms anyone ?

[grannylib]

94. That's it; glad he didn't shy from calling it like it is. What that

fuckin' imbecile has done in this country's name is obscene.
Impeach, Indict, Imprison. Forever.

[Lint Head]

96. George W Bush is a walking talking pile of bullshit!

Actually that is a compliment. His is more of a rat turd. :dem:

[Tashca]

97. Reid out.....Biden in!!!....nt

[Muttocracy]

99. maybe so - I wanted Biden for Pres, Dodd for Maj. Leader.

But heck, I just want the more useful Dems. to move upwards somehow.

[Riverman]

98. Obama has to Get Joe Involved in his campaign! A tough

-straight talking guy with blue collar roots from Deleware! Not a big state certainly - Dems will win anyway - just a few electoral votes - but get Joe involved somehow - may Sec of State - somehow in the cabinet, Supreme Court - but get him on the campaign trail in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, West Virginia, Virginia, Georgia - back an forth - non-stop telling it like it is. He would be so much better than John Elwards - who I started supporting until he dropped out. Sorry to say, John Edwards just looks too slick, too cute and talks funny to be taken seriously, even though he has been the one saying what needs to be said about poverty and the two Americas. If he could have made it to the nomination, I would have supported him 100%. So, for now it is Obama! So let's get the true "straight talker" Joe Biden to get out there and keep the troops reved-up all the way to November!

[Imagevision]

100. And we can expect more of Bush after he leaves via McCain - can't ya just wait...

[whistle]

101. That's the way to do it! Don't leave out Darth Cheney for every word that comes from Cheney's mouth

...is Whale Shit!

[BlueJac]

103. I'm sorry that is not enough....

Where has he been all this time while our country was being destroyed from within....sitting there keeping his mouth shut. WTF, someone calling bullshit while sitting on their hands for years is fucking bullshit in itself! That was a little nugget for the people that think they are doing something important. I say wake the fuck up. Time to smack that little bug Bush and end the fucking nightmare.


I call bullshit.......people are shaking in their boots now. WTF?

[clixtox]

146. One dim light in a morass of mediocrity across the political spectrum...

If Joe had been willing to be brutally, provocatively and persuasively honest in his analysis of the many boondoggles and bamboozlements perpetrated in our name around the world he would be either dead or the Demo nominee for POTUS. The race for the nod was wide open, ripe for the plucking, which the anointed one, OB, is doing, doing, done!!!

[Beregond2]

104. There was a time when

Democrats were known for this kind of straight talk. If the current crop had talked like this starting eight years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in now. American's love this. When did Dems forget that? Imagine if Kerry had called Chimpy a lying draft-dodging SOB and ripped his earpiece out and shown it to the world? The Repugs would have instantly become laughing stocks. But no; they knew they could count on the Dems being pussys. Let's hope Biden's words are the start of a trend.

[sendero]

150. EXACTLY...

.... I have been SCREAMING this since the day I came here in 2002. The Democrats play right into the pukes "milktoast" meme with their timid rhetoric.

People appreciate straight talk, without the nuanced embellishments of a John Kerry or the recalcitrant semi-whine of a Harry Reid.

Obama seems to have some chops in this area, that's the good news.

[susanwy]

105. I want the alternate universe

where Joe should have been our nominee. But NOOOOO the DLC & MSM & Corporations wanted to make history. How pathetic, we didn't need history, we needed experience, brains and a can-do, take no shit attitude. Biden would have kick McCain's butt and come into office ready to rock and roll. We really missed the boat folks. I completely respect the fact that only he stood by his promise to not endorse until after the primary season is complete, and then I'm sure he will work tirelessly for the nominee.

:spank:

[RedCappedBandit]

108. Thank you BIDEN. Thats what i'm talkin about!!

[minnesota_liberal]

109. Damn straight. Unfortunately, it gives ammo to the RepubliCons

... who will focus on Biden's words while ignoring his mesage, cast him as a "potty mouth" and claim that Republicans are the party of honorable and family-friendly language.

[Downtown Hound]

112. Then show the clips of Cheney saying "go fuck yourself"

and Bush flipping the camera off. We can no longer afford to be held hostage by what Republicans can throw at us. It's time to fight fire with fire.

[Downtown Hound]

114. Good job Joe

If only the Democrats could have talked like that a few years back, this world might be a happier place.

[minnesota_liberal]

118. I agree. But image is more important than reality

All it'll take is 50 prominent Republicans parroting the RNC talking points, a typically worthless mainstream media giving them all the air time they want and a majority of the public either ignorant of or unable to gain access to the alternative media (that will dare to show Cheney swearing or Bush the Lesser flipping someone off).

[georgecolombo]

110. He Went Too Far

It wasn't "malarky." He should have stopped at "bullshit." Because that's what it was.

[defendandprotect]

111. No one mentioned "Iran Contra" or "The October Surprise" . . . ???

The Bush family supported Hitler . . . is anyone going to mention that ?

They helped FINANCE HITLER . . . IS ANYONE GOING TO MENTION THAT???

[defendandprotect]

113. Also re Jimmy Carter ...the rescue missions had some really strange luck --- ?? ?? ???

That's another subject that hasn't really been looked at . . .

As October Surprise was in the works, Jimmy Carter was trying to rescue the hostages ---

The helicopters couldn't stay in the air --- seems they were missing some equipment which

keeps sand out of the engine!!!

On three different occasions???

[Steely_Dan]

115. Yep....Joe Would Have Been A Great President

Joe Biden was my first choice and he remains my first choice.

I'm sorry to say this, but America missed out on what I believe would have been one of the greatest presidents in our history.

This was NOT a time to try and make presidential history. This was a time to get our bearings back, to get the pendulum to start swinging the other way. But we blew it....BIG TIME!

Is Joe perfect...nope. And he would be the first to admit it. Joe is one of us. Few people know that...

Joe is the second to last on the senatorial wealth list. He wasn't in it for the money.
He had to take a second out on his home to send his kids to college.
He takes a train to work every day.
His son is preparing to serve in Iraq.

I cannot put into words my extreme disappointment that Joe is not our nominee. He would have handed McCain his ass in both the debates and in the GE. Now, what do we have remaining? After watching the schoolyard crap that has flown back and forth between Clinton and Obama...I bet there are a few out there that wish Joe Biden were our nominee.

This was my last great hope for our country...that Joe Biden would return us to our former selves with compassion and strength...with intelligence born of reality based thinking. In my 55 years...most of which, following politics, I have never been more sure about this man, this true American. We missed our chance at a "genuine" leader...now it's a crapshoot.

Thank you "caucus system." Thank you "corporate media." Thank you $$$$. Thanks for making sure that we didn't get the very best on our ticket.

Fuck you!

-P

[ginchinchili]

127. God bless you, P. You certainly aren't alone in your opinion on Joe Biden.

I'm just as frustrated and disappointed that the Democratic Party no longer cares about what is best for this country, a tag I used to think only belonged to the Repubs. Joe would have been a great president, but instead we're stuck with either an aging Republican who likes the Iraq war, a slick, snakeoil salesman who has proven nothing to us except that he's an arrogant jive artist who regards rural, bluecollar, white Americans with disdain, and an overly ambitious former First Lady who feels the world owes her the presidency--my lesser of 3 evils. I still plan to write in Joe's name on election day. I am loathed to give any of these 3 my endorsement by voting for them.

[WheelWalker]

130. Tell it Paige. It's the truth.

[Muttocracy]

133. ...

:thumbsup:

[murbley40]

158. Ditto!!

[zeos3]

123. Thank you Joe

I'm so glad this man is not afraid to speak his mind. He's been saying a lot of the things I've been thinking lately.

[pjt7]

128. More straight talk please!!

~

[bonito]

129. GO JOE!!!

WE HEAR YOU!

[WheelWalker]

131. Truth. When do we want it? Now ! Truth now ! Truth NOW ! TRUTH NOW !

[Juan_de_la_Dem]

134. F'in A Righ Joe!!

[quiet.american]

135. I pray now that we won't see Biden "apologizing" for this. He's so right. nt

[Wizard777]

136. Ooooooooh, Bush pulled a Dixie Chicks. The GOP called that treason.

So I guess this makes Bush and his boys the Dixie Dicks.

[WheelWalker]

138. Gezactly.

[Wizard777]

139. Maybe it would be best if Bush didn't come home.

Besides he's not going to like what he finds when he gets back. No more butt kissing for Bush. Everyone is ready to kick it to hell and back.

[WheelWalker]

140. DU is SO ready for the general election.....

All this internecine energy is just going to erUPT, across the Board, in a pyroclasm of cleansing. It is time. And Joe will be a warrior for truth.

[Wizard777]

141. I wonder if Bush and Cheney have realized that the light at the end of their tunnel.

Is just a freight train headed their way.

[WheelWalker]

142. And it's not Lionel. It's Union Central. nt

[riverdale]

155. Pyroclasm ?

[WheelWalker]

160. It is sometimes expedient to craft a term for the context, when a language

is bereft of an adequate descriptor.

[TroubleMan]

137. Best thing Biden's ever said.

It's about time somebody said that. K&R.

[jeff30997]

143. "“He’s the guy that’s increased the number of terrorists in the world"

Yep.And the Saudis are very proud of him.Mission accomplished.

[trusty elf]

144. A picture is worth a thousand turds...

[old mark]

145. Biden for VP!

No more Republican bullshit.

mark

[Eurobabe]

148. God Love Ya JOE!

I'll say until I am blue in the face.

He would be a great VP for Obama. :hi: :patriot:

[thunderdog]

149. Careful Joe, we can say that, but you are supposed to be more tactful.

Having said that, Joe was my choice. He and Richardson would have been the out of my way punk, slam dunk, ticket.

Now, instead of a slam dunk, it will all be decided by who hits the most 3-pointers.

[mrigirl]

154. Way to go Biden!

At least someone has the cajones to stand up to this administration! From the earliest onset Biden has been openly against Bush policy. Too bad America didn't get a chance to see the "real" Joe Biden during his campaign. He still is the most honest, forthright, outspoken, and truth to power Democrat we have in Washington. Biden tells it like it is. What a difference he would of made as President!

[Highway61]

157. Gotta love him.... n/t

[L. Coyote]

159. REC 125. We need more straight talk in American politics! n/t

[PatSeg]

163. A big K&R

For Joe! He so rarely gets the recognition he deserves.

[gateley]

165. I was thinking I hope his staff sees this thread

and passes it along, so he knows how appreciated his remark is. And how appreciated HE is!

[PatSeg]

167. Too bad

he didn't get this much attention when he was in the race!

Oh well, at least he's getting it now.

[WheelWalker]

168. From all the attention he's been getting, I think he knows. Another Kick for Joe !

[ryanmuegge]

169. You're about 8 years too late with the anger, buddy.

This is all so theatrical.


...Meanwhile, the world burns.

[wishlist]

170. I was disappointed and dismayed though when Biden apologized for it

CNN this morning (while I was in a waiting room) talked about him swearing and then apologizing for his statement, sounding wimpy and wishy washy. We cannot afford to have Dems speaking truth and then apologizing for their hard hitting remarks. Bush and Cheney and Rove etc never apologize and so it is no wonder so many Americans think Repubs are stronger and Dems are weak.

[PatSeg]

171. I have only heard him apologize for swearing

but not for his actual statement.

[WheelWalker]

172. Actually, "malarkey" is a much more strongly pejorative term than "bullshit," implying

more a deceptive intent or deceit rather than mere foolishness or nonsense of content. I think he apologized only for offending the sensibilities of innocents, not for strongly disparaging the words of a POTUS.

[and-justice-for-all]

175. Joe is great! He is not one to fuck with...nt