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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:00 AM
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'Curious George' publisher may sue T-shirt vendor
Source: AP

MARIETTA, Ga.—The publisher of the popular children's book series "Curious George" is considering legal action against a Georgia bar owner for selling T-shirts that show the inquisitive monkey peeling a banana with "Obama in '08" printed beneath the image.
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"Houghton Mifflin Harcourt did not nor would we ever authorize or approve this use of the Curious George character, which we find offensive and utterly out of keeping with the values Curious George represents," said Richard Blake, the company's spokesman.

Bar owner Mike Norman, who began selling the shirts in late April, has said they are not meant to be racist. He said he thinks the Illinois senator and the character "look so much alike."

Bill Nigut, southeast regional director for the Anti-Defamation League, said Norman is being disingenuous.

Read more: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/05/16/curious_george_publisher_may_sue_t_shirt_vendor/
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:03 AM
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1. I hope they do...
It really disturbed me seeing a children's image used in such a derogatory manner.

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zehnkatzen Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 01:08 PM
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34. They need to screw this imbecile's backside to the bar he owns. k/r n/t
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:03 AM
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2. Good...I hope he does...
it is a disgusting thing he is doing.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:04 AM
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3. bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Houghton Mifflin Harcourt doesn't play, either. Mike Norman is TOAST. :rofl:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:04 AM
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4. I hope so --
nothing stings so bad as hitting someone in their wallet.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:05 AM
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5. What a moran
==>.... has said they are not meant to be racist. He said he thinks the Illinois senator and the character "look so much alike."
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:06 AM
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6. * Is The One Who Should Be Suing
In fact, he should be getting some residuals from the author for his biography.
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The Political Jerk Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:11 AM
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7. It's not racist to think that a black man and a monkey look alike.
Oh wait, it totally is racist.


-The Political Jerk
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:18 AM
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8. I'm sure that this has been great for his business.
Cobb County is full of like minded people who would wear sheets, but get tired of them getting stuck in the door of their W stickered Hummer.

He'll cease and desist and count his profits.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:23 AM
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9. Sue his tits off
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GAtomboy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:24 AM
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10. If anything he resembles our decider
I live about 10 minutes from Marietta and this dumb hillbilly was on the local news trying to claim he thinks Obama is great. If you're ever in Georgia in the Marietta area... don't go to Mulligan's Bar & Grill. This isn't the first time he's been an ignorant redneck.

Notorious in Marietta as a provocateur, Norman has sparked protests before with the intemperate slogans he displays on signs in front of Mulligan's. "No habla Espanol — and never will," was one. "I wish Hillary had married O.J." was another

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cobb/stories/2008/05/15/norman_0515.html

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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:43 AM
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12. I work in Marietta about 3 miles from that place.
So, you can rest assured I will steer clear of it.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:34 AM
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11. The only way to get some people's attention is to threaten
to take their money away!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:44 AM
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13. kick
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:46 AM
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14. This is the first thought I had when I saw that shirt. "Where the hell is the owner of Curious G?"
They should sue the shit out of them. I can imagine how pissed I'd be if I created a perfectly innocent character for children and it was used as a goddamn racist attack.
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GAtomboy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:03 PM
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15. What a loser
It would be perfect if they sued the pants off him and he had to shut down his nasty redneck bar. I'd drive over there with a big banner and celebrate!!
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:10 PM
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16. Let's hope he loses everything.
If he does, I'll join you with the big banner and celebration. My office is quite close to that place.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:12 PM
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17. I hope Curious George
unleashes a raft of curious little lawyers in yellow hats to sue this creep for his last dime.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:17 PM
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18. FANTASTIC!!!
:bounce:

And good work to all of you that e-mailed them about this!!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:24 PM
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19. It's protected free speech
Edited on Fri May-16-08 12:24 PM by Cronus Protagonist
The man has a right to do it whether you like it or not.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:28 PM
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20. he's allowed to use the curious george character with out permission?
Edited on Fri May-16-08 12:28 PM by sabra
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:32 PM
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22. Absolutely
Satire.
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:34 PM
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24. This is a thin line re: satire
And I'd bet that Houghton Mifflin has way better lawyers that this fella.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:36 PM
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25. Disney for one has very successfully sued people in these situations..
trademark rules.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:42 PM
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28. Well, they can sue you not to take a crap and they would win
One simply cannot beat a forced attack from a major corporation, no matter whan the subject. That doesn't make it right.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:39 PM
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37. I wasn't arguing that it was right..
I was arguing that it can and has been done.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:50 PM
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30. Hmmm
Try using the Rolls Royce trademark for satire then - always been very heavily protected without any exceptions being made. You're wrong.
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:30 PM
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21. Not if he's making money from it. (ie, selling t-shirts)
At least, I think that is one of those exceptions.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:34 PM
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23. Not true
He can use the character as satire, and sell the shirts without paying compensation. Sorry, but that's how it will go down. I've been a satirist for 8 years. I've used everything from Wonder Woman to Curious George against Bush, and there's no reason for this guy's work to be any different.
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:36 PM
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26. So when does it become copyright infringement?
Does the reproducer need to claim it as their own intellectual property for it to be infringement? Or maybe a "reasonable" person would have to confuse the original from the reproduced product?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:40 PM
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27. It is copyright infringement when it is not satire
If it is sold as counterfit to the originals. When it's satire, it's satire, when it's not, it's infringement.
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:43 PM
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29. Gotcha - sorry for making you argue the same point in 2 different mini-threads.
:toast:
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 01:03 PM
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31. Who determines what is satire?
I'm uh, curious here. A judge? A jury?

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 01:45 PM
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35. Ultimately a judge at the supreme court
But you knew that.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:44 PM
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38. BUT
they can break his back w/ defense fees.

You're right, it isn't fair.

But I just can't care.
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zehnkatzen Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 01:07 PM
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32. If one more imbecile says "but I'm not racist" ...
...after doing something manifestly racist, swear to whatever's left of God, my frigg'n head's gonna asplode.

Aww, why bother? They're never gonna listen, anyway ...

No, why would I assume anyone comparing a chimpanzee to a man who's running for President who just happens to be black, when some idiot I recently talked to called them jungle monkeys and then said "now, I don't mean that racist."

Crimony. Let's just close it up and go home, folks. Battle's over. The stupid have won.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 01:53 PM
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36. Good - take the damn bar. nt
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katerinasmommy Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:33 PM
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39. Not only is he a racist.....
he's too cowardly to own up to it. What a loser.
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