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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:04 PM
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Can Associated Press control the blogosphere?
Source: msnbc.msn.com

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25198449/

The Associated Press took a grandiose Facebook-style faceplant last week when it attempted to impose strict guidelines on the blogosphere.

Now, just like Facebook’s initial unapologetic enthusiasm for its privacy-violating Beacon program followed by Facebook’s effusive apology for its privacy-violating Beacon program, the AP is bowing to the will of the angry Internet masses and backing off. Sort of.

As part of the big mea culpa, the AP's Jim Kennedy pledged to meet this week with Robert Cox, president of the Media Bloggers Association (which is, you know, kind of like meeting with the United Organization of Anarchists), and work up some sort of AP/Blogger Accord.

wtf?

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25198449/
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:09 PM
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1. Perhaps the AP could examine their own policy of fair use
and consider whether they've been reproducing rather than referencing WH talking points.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:25 PM
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2. Hee, hee.
Good point.

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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 02:44 AM
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8. And maybe while they're at it...
they could learn how to spell.
:eyes:
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:26 PM
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3. The Media Bloggers Association is a joke.
Who made them the representatives of bloggers and independent news sites? When was the election? No one told me. If one of those clowns comes sniffing around, World News Trust, me, Tace or any of our wonderful authors, that person will get a boot up the ass.

Some people really need a tune-up.
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nycdemocratico Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:34 PM
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4. I heard they want to charge $2.00 or so for every word excerpted in blogs
What's up with that? This blog should boycott AP if that becomes law.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:08 AM
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5. No shit.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:16 AM
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6. Without checking into it
I have a large deal of cynicism about the Media Bloggers Association. Sounds like one of those "pseudo" associations whose only goal is to make the leadership some money.

L-
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:26 AM
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7. AP will rue the day.
Bloggers will start paraphrasing -- and AP will lose control of their stories.

The printing press put monasteries where monks toiled at manuscripts in musty smelling libraries with 15 foot ceilings and no central heating. The internet will put an end to AP's monopoly on news. The more they fight innovation, the more bloggers will become inventive.

Some of us actually read other languages and can get news from non-English sources. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, AP. We don't need you. In fact, your domination of the news is not particularly good for the American news media.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:41 AM
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9. The Associated Pukes is the worst, most unreliable, most slanted, and, well, pukiest
corporate 'news' monopoly source on the leftist/social justice movement that has swept elections in South America over the last decade. They publish outright lies and disinformation about this important subject, as well as heavily slanting all news stories toward the interest of global corporate predators, war profiteers, Bushites and fascists.

More than any other news source, they need to be vetted, analyzed, questioned, and READ VERY CAREFULLY. You cannot trust ANYTHING they publish--not even basic facts. And in the areas of selective quotes, infusing rightwing opinion without quotes or attribution, lack of context, highly selective facts, rightwing framing and innuendo, misleading headlines and ledes, and other propagandistic practices of bad, bad journalism, they take the cake.

Their use of the phrase "His critics say" (he is increasingly authoritarian) was the first red flag to me, a couple of years ago, about their slandering of "Hugo Chavez, friend of Fidel Castro" (ahem...Chavez has LOTS of friends, one of whom--the president of Brazil--recently said, "You can criticize Chavez on a lot of things, but not on democracy.") I couldn't find anybody who had actually said Chavez was "increasingly authoritarian." ("His critics say...".) I finally tracked it to a Venezuelan Catholic cardinal who had spent his career in the Vatican finance office and who had been fired in the fascist banking scandals of the 1980s. This raving old fascist had said that Chavez was "increasingly authoritarian"--when the Chavez government cut back the huge government subsidies to Catholic institutions (--a decidedly democratic policy). He's the one who said it, back then. And, of course, Chavez was being a bit "authoritarian" (protective of Venezuela's sovereignty) in his dealings with Exxon Mobil et al, so the Bushites--when they couldn't topple Chavez with a violent military coup and other dirty rotten schemes--took up the cry from Cardinal Lara, cuz, anybody who sticks up for Venezuelans, against rapacious oil giants, has to be a "dictator."

Hard to say whether the Associated Pukes were getting their "talking points" from Venezuela's rightwing prelates (some of whom signed the coup d'etat documents in 2002), or from the Bush-purged CIA. "His critics say..." is sufficiently vague as to allow AP to say anything at all without accountability. And we've simply got to be more savvy about reading tripe like this from the war profiteering 'news' monopolies, especially when the word "authoritarian" in connection with the president of Venezuela then turns up in a speech by Barack Obama!

There is no evidence--none, zero, ZILCH--that Hugo Chavez is "authoritarian." In fact, the evidence is OVERWHELMING that Chavez is a firmly committed democrat with a small d, who has done everything in his power to INCREASE public participation in Venezuelan politics and government, and has furthermore run a scrupulously lawful, beneficial government that has inspired other South American leaders, and millions of ordinary Latin Americans, to IMPROVE democracy and pursue goals of social justice, and self-determination, throughout the continent. That is why fascists and Bushites hate him, and why their lapdogs in the corporate 'news' monopolies echo that fascist/Bushite view--with the Associated Pukes being the very worst offender. They hate democracy. They really do--because it cuts into the obscene profits of Exxon Mobil, Blackwater, Dyncorp, Monsanto, Chiquita, Occidental Petroleum, the World Bank/IMF and all the other corporate fuckwads and bilious rich who are destroying our own country and can't stand it that South Americans are now stopping them from destroying theirs!

So I would say to any bloggers who are dealing with the Associated Pukes: a) do NOT rely on them as a news source; and b) when you quote their 'news' articles, quote them WARILY--and analyze, criticize, and read between the lines. This will not only protect you as to their fucking "intellectual property," but it is vital to understanding their propagandistic purpose, and to grasping the realities of this world that they are trying to prevent you from knowing.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:05 PM
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11. Agree 100%
But about half of DU seems to be brainwashed by the "Chavez is STALIN" crowd - all you have to do is start a chavez thread and you'll see.

I think right now I'd rather be poor in Venezuela than poor in the US - and that's saying something.

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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:05 AM
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10. Come on you all know better it's 'Associated Propaganda' /nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 01:13 PM
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12. How dumb IS the AP?
http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/06/18/how-dumb-is-the-ap/

So dumb that they have done the impossible: They’ve united liberal and conservative bloggers, political and tech bloggers and sports bloggers and gossip bloggers and all other kind of bloggers against them. In an election year.

Is Michael Brown running the AP? Because they’re doing a heck of a job.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 04:31 PM
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13. The thing is, there just isn't any way to COMPEL people on the Internet.
It's a whole new point of view in interpersonal relations.
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