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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 10:48 PM
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Mexican soldiers enter Arizona, hold agent briefly
Source: The Associated Press

Four Mexican soldiers crossed into Arizona and held a U.S. Border Patrol agent at gunpoint before realizing where they were and returning to Mexico, federal authorities said Wednesday.

The confrontation occurred early Sunday on the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation, about 85 miles southwest of Tucson, in an area fenced only with barbed wire, said Dove Crawford, a spokeswoman for the Border Patrol.

The soldiers, outfitted in desert camouflage, pointed their rifles at the agent and shouted at him not to move, Crawford said. They lowered their weapons after about four minutes when the agent convinced them of who he was and where they were, she said. The soldiers then retreated into Mexico.

The Mexican government has sent soldiers north along sections of the border in efforts to tamp down drug-related violence.

Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iNkNkXN7STqvo9D-MI4alZcTzCuwD92D2JTG0
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 10:54 PM
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1. Imagine no borders
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 10:55 PM
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2. If Mexico massed troops on the border they could drive all the way to Denver
within 2 weeks.

The national guard is in Iraq.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 10:59 PM
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4. You're forgetting all those armed Libertarians in the way!
Standing bravely between them and Democratic Convention!

After all, if those doughty Minutemen couldn't hold off the Mexican army, what chance would they have against, say, an invading Chinese army, let alone one enforcing the tyrannical orders of a liberal-socialist government in Washington?
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 11:00 PM
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5. They are probing our defenses.
Are Mexican and Canadian agents meeting in Prague as we sit here doing nothing? I kinda hope so.

I surrender. Please take us.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 11:05 PM
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8. nah
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 11:08 PM by Tejas


Texas ANG......git some on ya!

:)
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 07:34 AM
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19. A Lawn Dart
:D
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The Croquist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:21 AM
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22. No they couldn't.
US gas costs too much.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 10:58 PM
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3. wait til Lou Dobbs hears about this (eom)
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:55 AM
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11. 10 bucks says he pushes for a war with Mexico over this.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 11:01 PM
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6. Hell, they could have kidnapped the agent
Taken him back to Mexico, declared him an "enemy combatant" and tortured him. What would or could the Bush administration say?
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 11:05 PM
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7. The Bush Admin could care less about regular citizens....
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:29 AM
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9. "red dawn"
what a movie!....

wait, maybe it`s not a movie....
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:35 AM
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10. Oh great...now Bush will invade Mexico...
Little Boots invaded Iraq over complete lies.

What will he do, now that we have a real situation where officials from another
country savagely invaded our nation and pointed guns at US border patrol agents?

I know that's not what happened, but I'm sure right-wing, delusional radio will be
all over for this.

They'll call for an all-out invasion and a boycott of Taco Bell.



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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:04 AM
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20. Oh please... No he won't... Get real
It was Mexican troops that crossed the border

So, based on his past actions we'll be invading Costa Rica or Jamaica.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:04 AM
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27. You obviously don't know much about the Bush admin
He'd invade Cuba instead. The neocons have always had this fantasy of wading ashore in Cuba, capturing and hogtying Fidel Castro, and "liberating" the Cuban people.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 05:41 PM
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29. He'd pick Jamaica or Costa Rica, rather than Cuba because
A war with Jamaica would last 6 days, maybe six weeks, I doubt 6 months and with the large amount of... tourists and marijuana that the country has, the war would so be paying for itself.

In addition, we'd be treated as liberators in Jamaica.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:20 PM
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28. I will enlist ...
for either of those duties. Those places a just awash with tourists...er uh terrorists.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 02:20 AM
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12. Whoopsie daisy
Edited on Thu Aug-07-08 02:21 AM by proud patriot
:eyes:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 02:53 AM
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13. lolololol Has there ever been a shorter invasion?
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TaffyMoon Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 02:54 AM
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14. Someone said, "turn about is fair play".
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 03:37 AM
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15. They should have shot him and sprinkled some crack on him
After all what's a game without two players? :shrug:
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 05:16 AM
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16. oh if only Mexico had OIL.... we could invade and free their people
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:02 AM
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26. they do, we are, and in many ways they are more free than us
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 05:17 AM
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17. GOD DAMN!!!!!! We need to invade mexico right away!
Under the pretense they have weapons of mass destruction (we can forge documents) and seize whatever oil they have!
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 06:22 AM
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18. GPS, morans. Amazon.com, 1,667 hits for "GPS handheld". n/t
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:07 AM
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21. Wait til ole' Lou Dobbs gets wind of this one! n/t
Edited on Thu Aug-07-08 08:07 AM by kirby
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:49 AM
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23. Border Patrol agent held at gunpoint
Source: Washington Times

A U.S. Border Patrol agent was held at gunpoint Sunday night by members of the Mexican military who had crossed the border into Arizona, but the soldiers returned to Mexico without incident when backup agents responded to assist.

Agents assigned to the Border Patrol station at Ajo, Ariz., said the Mexican soldiers crossed the international border in an isolated area about 100 miles southwest of Tucson and pointed rifles at the agent, who was not identified.

It was unclear what the soldiers were doing in the United States, but U.S. law enforcement authorities have long said that current and former Mexican military personnel have been hired to protect drug and migrant smugglers.

"Unfortunately, this sort of behavior by Mexican military personnel has been going on for years," union Local 2544 of the National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) said on its Web page. "They are never held accountable, and the United States government will undoubtedly brush this off as another case of 'Oh well, they didn't know they were in the United States.'

Read more: http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/06/soldiers-cross-into-us-hold-guns-to-agent/



If you want to read some truly scary shit, read the comments below - it's a freeper fest. One fucktard even references Michael "Weiner" Savage.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:49 AM
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24. And the thirtysecondmen get their casus belli....
(Wow - that's 2 independent times in the last 2 days I've gotten to use that phrase - i LOVE it! :) )
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:49 AM
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25. get out the cannons and bombers and nukes if we have to...
and turn that whole part of the southwest into a desert wasteland and that will stop the dirty bastards from coming into our country....









ohh...never mind
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 06:42 PM
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30. Mexican soldiers allegedly held Arizona BP agent captive
Wednesday, August 06, 2008 at 1:56 p.m.
AJO, ARIZ. -- The U.S. Border Patrol agent's union reported that Mexican soldiers crossed into U.S. territory and held an agent captive at gunpoint during a Sunday night incident ...
http://www.kgbt4.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=170934

Agent Held at Gunpoint by Mexican Military
8-3-08 A Tucson Sector Border Patrol agent was held at gunpoint by the Mexican military last night south of Ajo. Mexican military personnel crossed over the border and pointed rifles at him. Backup units arrived from the Ajo Border Patrol station, and the Mexican military personnel eventually returned to Mexico ...
http://www.local2544.us/

Border Patrol Agent Held by Members of Mexican Military
... The alleged incident happened Sunday night near Ajo, Ariz., union officials told the Washington Times, which reported the soldiers returned to Mexico without further incident after reinforcements arrived to confront them ...
http://www.weli.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=4059215

Mexican troops cross U.S. border
... Tucson sector Border Patrol spokesman Mike Scioli said four Mexican soldiers wearing desert camouflage and carrying weapons confronted the agent early on Sunday morning as he patrolled a border road in the Tohono O'Odham nation southwest of Tucson. Scioli said the agent .. identified himself in English and Spanish. After four minutes the soldiers lowered their weapons and crossed back into Mexico ... The .. border line in the area is not always clearly marked, Scioli said ...
http://www.iht.com/articles/reuters/2008/08/06/america/OUKWD-UK-USA-MEXICO-SECURITY.php

Mexican soldiers enter state, hold border agent at gunpoint
... Details remain sketchy, but the incident occurred at 2 a.m. on the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation about 50 miles southeast of Ajo ... The Mexican army has told the Border Patrol it knew of an incident involving its soldiers, but it did not confirm the details. In years past, the Border Patrol has arrested Mexican soldiers who crossed the border, then typically released them back to Mexico ...
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2008/08/07/20080807incursion0807.html

BP: Mexican troops pulled guns on agent
U.S. patrolman driving on Ariz. side of border; show of arms called 'scare'
By Brady McCombs
Arizona Daily Star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 08.07.2008
... The incident occurred .. before 2 a.m. near the international line south of Papago Farms .. about 85 miles southwest of Tucson on the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation, said Mike Scioli ... The agent was driving along the dirt .. road .. when he encountered four men .. armed with assault rifles. They pointed their rifles at the agent and yelled at him to stop and not to move, Scioli said. The agent responded by saying in English that he was a Border Patrol agent. Then he said it in Spanish.
After about four minutes, the four men .. crossed back into Mexico. The agent did not get out of the car ...
http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/251649
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