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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:06 AM
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Oxnard man faces 210-year sentence for sexually abusing Cambodian girls
Source: Los Angeles Times

The young girl stood at the podium in a cavernous federal courtroom in downtown Los Angeles, 8,000 miles and a world away from her native Phnom Penh, Cambodia.

A prosecutor offered her a wooden footstool to stand on so she could better see the judge, but the girl declined.


She eyed the defendant, who had done unspeakable things to her and six other girls. He was seated just a few feet away with a smirk on his face.

The girl, 14, rocked back and forth, seeming to summon the courage to speak, and then, in a voice so faint it could barely be heard, she did.

"I don't want any other children to be like us," she told U.S. District Judge Dale S. Fischer through a translator. "Please don't allow this to happen again."


Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-kids26-2008sep26,0,5389064.story



The seven girls (ages 9-12) were drugged, beaten, and raped at his Phnom Penh compound (torture facility).
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:18 AM
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1. I don't advocate prison rape but this guy comes close to breaking my non-advocation.
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 10:27 AM by YOY
Scum...hope he rots in prison. There is no rehabilitation for this kind of monster.

The thought of this monster anywhere free in the same society where my daughter lives, laughs, and plays sends me into a rage.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:54 AM
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11. Did it ever occur to you that it might be people like the defendent
who rape others in prison?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:15 PM
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13. Supposedly a friend of mine who did time said that guys like this are the lowest on the chain
in prison.

It did occur to me...and like I said it only makes me question things not change my opinion on the matter.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:59 PM
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17. No, the prison rapists are Superheroes of JUSTICE!!!!!
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 01:59 PM by alcibiades_mystery
At least according to many of the sexual sadists on this board.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:01 PM
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18. I know it's sick and wrong, but your reply made me LOL
:yoiks:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:10 PM
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21. I am totally against rape of any kind.
Any grievous harm inflicted upon this monster would not be justified. The level of this mans monstrosity makes me question but not change my opinion regarding the matter.

That's not sexually sadistic. I have seen people here who do say such things.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:22 AM
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2. I just have to add one little snip from the article:
"I don't want you to be afraid," the judge told the girls, one of whom clutched a fluffy pink teddy bear. "This is a safe place."


:cry:
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:38 AM
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3. So, he had a *smirk* on his face?!?!?
I won't share what I think he really deserves, since most of us are probably thinking the same thing or some variation.

This is just heartbreaking:

Social workers who are helping to care for the girls in Cambodia told Fischer the youngsters probably would be traumatized for the rest of their lives, particularly in a culture in which victims of sexual abuse are stigmatized.

"The culture that they live in considers these children as refuse now," said Don Brewster, who runs a mission in Cambodia that helps sexually abused children. "They have a life sentence of overcoming what their culture thinks of them."
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:59 PM
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27. I wish they could be sent here
I wish I could adopt all of them. That is heartbreaking when you think about the amount of love they need to heal. :cry:
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:45 AM
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4. There is no hell deep enough for such a creature
But a good place to start would be with a sandblaster and a bucket of salt. :grr:
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:58 AM
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6. Simpler....
physical castration. I'd probably also remove his thumbs too. Let him live like that for the rest of his miserable life in prison.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:44 AM
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29. Oo that's pretty good :D No thumbs n/t
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:55 AM
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5. In some poor countries, pedophiles find their best hunting grounds.
I found out while doing my research on child abuse that there are travel agents that sell tour packages to pedophiles for this exact purpose. At the time most of the countries were in Latin America and Asia, and most of the pedophiles came from the U.S. and Europe.

One story I remember was from the Dominican Republic and about a man arrested there for sexual child abuse. The man was a U.S. citizen and a principal at a grade school.

I am sorry but I have no pity for pedophiles, even those who were abused as children themselves. Being a victim does not excuse being a predator, it may explain it but it does not excuse it. JMHO
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:06 AM
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8. The Dominican Republic,
Limpballs favorite Viagra-fueled stomping ground.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:34 AM
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10. I have seen accusations about his being a pedophile on here.
Is there anything to back that up or is it just a dig? I don't doubt him being one, but just wondering. Of course I don't doubt anything negative I hear about this weasel. I just would like some proof of it to spread here in his neck of the woods.

Any country that has a lot of street children is usually seen as a happy hunting ground for the pedophiles. The DR is supposedly coming down harder on the tourist trade for child abusers but I don't know how good a job they are doing.
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:02 PM
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30. I never called him a pedophile.
I'm sure you know the story. He went to the DR with four other guys and on his return, 29 little blue pills were found in his possession. Outside of that, nothing incriminating.

So yeah, it was a dig. Although replace Oxy-Rush with a Dem, and the repukes would have had a field day.


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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 02:29 PM
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34. No, I didn't mean you had said he was a pedophile
I have read other people say it and wondered if there was anything behing the accusations. And yes, he has gotten by with much more than any person not a RW talking head would not have gotten by with. I am from Illinois and ashamed that he came from a neighboring state. That is how low I think he is. :puke:
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kenichol Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:29 PM
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12. My thoughts exactly nt
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:03 AM
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7. "a retired U.S. Marine captain"
U.S. military type...why am I not surprised?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:19 PM
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14. They come from all walks of life.
His nationality and whether he was ever in or out of the military is irrelevant.
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:41 PM
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15. I'm referring to the shockingly high rate of rape of women in the military...
Numbers like that are not irrelevant.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:04 PM
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20. I thought we were talking about pedophiles
Yeah...those numbers are not to be ignored but the vics in this case were not in the military nor were they women.
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:11 PM
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22. vics not women...? Many of the women vics in military are barely 18...
and many of the Iraqi citizens who've been beaten, raped and in some cases murdered also span both sides of 18 years of age. You're splitting ridiculous hairs here.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:13 PM
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23. The victims in the story above. They were girls. Not women.
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 02:39 PM by YOY
Are you ADD? Not trying to insult here but I'm talking one thing and you're talking another.

Unless you're just in a mood to be self rightous about completely unrelated sex crimes.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:23 PM
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25. In addition to those victims in Japan and the Philippines...
In addition to those victims in Japan and the Philippines...

That being said, I do not think that the military, or the education system (many teachers in prison for statutory rape), or religions (e.g., the Catholic priest scandals) or any other "organizations" are to blame for the moral transgressions of one individual.



As an aside to comments further upstream-- rape in prison is equal opportunity. My father did a total of twelve years in state (Hunstville) and federal (FCI- Ft. Worth,) and prior to his death (after his release), we spent many an evening sharing a few beers and he'd open up about some of the more... dark sides of prison life.

Doesn't matter what you're guilty of-- if you can't take care of yourself, you're invariably going to get raped, regardless of whether it was a white collar crime or diddling a kid. There's absolutely no hierarchy based on who did what to whom, nor is there any "lowest of low" form of crime. If you can beat off your assailants, you're fine; if you can't, you're going to be someone's girlfriend.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:06 AM
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9. I wish our country would offer all those girls homes here in the US
Perhaps it could begin to make up for a tiny part of the damage done to them by one of our citizens.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:44 PM
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16. Man poor kids
Stories like this are so sickening :( and this is a case where at least justice appears to be taking place.
If I never read one of these again as long as I lived it would be too soon. And these poor kids had to live it.
Fucked up world...
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:01 PM
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19. How does the US Dist Court in LA have jurisdiction?
Child trafficking in Cambodia is a terrible problem. Maybe there is a law out there that makes human trafficking overseas illegal for US citizens.

When I visited Vietnam 2 years ago there was an awful lot of child prostitutes and older foreign men with them. It was sickening.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:17 PM
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24. Federal law
http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/ceos/citizensguide_trafficking.html

It is also a federal crime to attempt to take part in this type of activity. Traveling between states or abroad for the purpose of engaging in any sexual act with a child can be prosecuted under the authority of federal law, as can engaging in a sexual act with a child while abroad, regardless of whether that was the purpose of the trial. See 18 U.S.C. § 2423. For example, it is a federal crime for an adult United States citizen to travel abroad to a foreign county to engage in sexual activity with a citizen of that foreign country under the age of 18. It is even a crime to attempt to engage in this type of activity.
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:54 AM
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28. Where in VN did you see this...

I am not saying that what you saw in VN doesn't happen, but the prostitution situation in Vietnam is very different than it is in Thailand, Cambodia, The Dominican Republic, or in most other developing countries. Vietnam is a very sexually conservative country and the "lid" is screwed on very tight.

Prostitution is absolutely everywhere, I mean in every country, regardless of the plethora of laws against the activity in most places. That said, the laws against prostitution in Vietnam are vigorously enforced and particularly those concerning the possible exploitation of children. Around the tourist areas of Ho Chi Minh City there are some places that are marketing "night life" to visitors to perhaps have some "excitement" on offer. The issue might be that often the young women in these bars and nightclubs some might appear to be younger than 18 because of their petite size and sweet almost child-like appearance.

"Gary Glitter" is a recent example of a pedophile who spent a few years in Vietnamese jails and in prison for pedophilia with two pre-teen girls.

Child labor outside the family is also strictly outlawed. There are no factories making export, or any, items in Vietnam with child laborers.

Unfortunately there are some who would cast baseless aspersions on Vietnam, their government and the Vietnamese people, for whatever reason, which is why I am asking for a little more information.

I live in Vietnam most of the time these days, I am an "older man" and I love it here! The people in Vietnam are wonderful, healthy and sweet. The food here is fabulous and the prices are incredibly reasonable considering how civilized the lifestyle can be.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:04 PM
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32. Tourist areas around Saigon
Edited on Sat Sep-27-08 01:08 PM by AngryAmish
on edit: I was there for ten days. Virtually every cab driver offered to bring me to a whorehouse, said they had young, clean girls. Pimps coming up to me in bars saying the same thing.

VN is very nice country. But I looked like one of the sleazy sex tourists so I must have attracted attention.

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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:23 PM
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33. I would like to see this pedophile in a Cambodian jail
It's ridiculous that he has to serve his sentence in US first.
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:26 PM
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26. Good to see this monster locked away. These sick f**k pedophiles have been targeting
vulnerable children in poor nations for too long and getting away with it.
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:02 PM
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31. filthy bastard
:puke: :thumbsdown: :nopity:
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