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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:48 AM
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Rove Criticizes McCain's Handling Of Campaign, Gives Electoral Map To Obama
Source: The Huffington Post

Appearing on Fox News Sunday, Karl Rove criticized the McCain campaign for its handling of several strategic operations of the campaign.

Asked about the candidate's decision to shut down its Michigan operations, Rove, who serves informally as an adviser to McCain, seemed perplexed that the campaign did it with such apparent flair.

"I don't know, I don't know," said Rove. "And not only that, but it set off a spat of warfare inside the Michigan Republican Party with the former national committee man sending a letter to Sarah Palin saying 'please contest the state,' and leaking that to the members of the state central committee which guaranteed it would be in the hands of the press."

Later in the program, Rove was quizzed about a Washington Post piece that contained a quote from a McCain aide saying the campaign wanted to "turn the page" on the economic crisis and start going after Obama on character traits. Rove didn't dismiss the idea, arguing that it needed to be accompanied with a positive economic message that voters could latch onto. But he was, once more, at odds to explain why McCain would talk about it publicly.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/05/rove-criticizes-mccains-h_n_131994.html
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:49 AM
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1. I just cannot trust anything Rove says...even this. I will always think he has
ulterior motives...that would not be the same as mine.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:52 AM
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2. agreed
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:54 AM
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4. I thought they were fixing to steal MI. It will be harder to do
if McBomb pulls out of there.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 03:57 PM
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21. By the way....
I'm in Michigan and I'm still seeing McIdiot ads. Why? I was so looking forward to not having to listen to them any more.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 03:59 PM
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22. I'm in CA. They never bother in my particular area. You have my sympathies. n/t
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:09 PM
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8. Yup. Whether or not it's accurate, you need to determine your own course of action.
Accepting ANYTHING your opponent states as fact is suicidal. Especially an opponent like Rove.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:49 PM
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11. He's got the genes of a weasel.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:50 PM
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12. I agree. If Rove said the sky is blue
I'd look out the window to check.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:53 AM
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3. Take out voter fraud in the last two Presidential elections and Rove is just another hack.
He lost both of them but for hanging-chads,Florida goon-squads and Diebold thrown into the mix. He's a loser who needs to be in jail.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:59 AM
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5. He's trying to distance himself from the coming humiliation of McCain and Palin on November 4!
For once he's telling the truth, McCain is screwing up!
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:02 PM
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6. or perhpas Karl is trying to publicly distance himself
from the disaster

knowing that handcuffs await him if McCain loses

this may be the beginning of the Karl Rove World Forgiveness Tour

Mea Culpa, World I fucked up please don't hate me I can be a good boy

Karl, who suffered by having a parent who gave piercing parties and humiliated him publicly, is (I suspect) very sensitive to which way the wind is blowing. He puts himself first, not party. They all do and it is their eternal weakness. We just haven't seen it yet, because when their party was winning, they all wanted to be on board and play ball.

Watch for ugly self-saving moves from this kamp of kriminals.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:06 PM
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7. Karl is getting a pardon. McCain won't take his advice. Rove is telling the GOP "aint my fault!"
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Tyler Generation Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:18 PM
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9. The GOP is throwing this election on purpose
I'm convinced. They need a Democratic government to blame everything on to reunite and energize their base, end of story.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:47 PM
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10. "Smirk. We broke it. Now you fix it. Smirk." - Republicons to Americans
Edited on Sun Oct-05-08 12:49 PM by SpiralHawk
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:05 PM
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13. I disagree. They have a few unfinished matters-The Patriots Act,
Telecommunications spying, War in Iraq, War with Iran, Assassination of Putin, Guantanamo Trials, to name a few that require another three to four years. However, I believe that Mccain in his attempts to distance himself from Bush infuriated the Neocons who are sitting this one out and letting the candidate free fall on his own. McCain has never been a part of that circle and to make matters worse, the Neocons have no use for a Sarah Palin--Cheney has probably never spoken to the woman. Seen Romney or Huckabee lately? They've gotten the word filtered down to their levels that McCain will die a slow and agonizing political death and then the party can move on. Palin, will be rewarded and return to Alaska. Rove knows this--he's just busy being greedy and getting more money from the McCain camp for what little advice he has given thus far.
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Lorentz Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 03:17 PM
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17. So, if the GOP win the election, it's because they stole it.
Edited on Sun Oct-05-08 03:21 PM by Lorentz
If the GOP loses the election, it's because they threw it on purpose. What an amazingly powerful group of people. Are they the Illuminati, by chance? I'm sure you believe in that conspiracy, too.

I'm going to put on my own tinfoil hat and make to outrageous claim that no one is in control of anything. There's no supreme coordinator of all things political. There's no big conspiracy. Most of the people in government aren't smart enough to not get involved in perverse sex scandals that destroy their careers. How on earth are they smart enough to discretely take over the world?

They're not as creative as you want to believe.
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 03:26 PM
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18. no, but the facts are there - numerous witnesses, programmers,
missing ballots, etc. from the 2004 election - Ohio was stolen through a mix of voter intimidation, illegal challenging at the polls, not enough voting machines in highly Democratic precincts, vote switching on touch screen machines, etc. But keep your rose colored glasses on... :eyes:
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:52 PM
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14. Rove might be the tip of the iceberg
The GOP base never liked McCain in the first place. They are only supporting him because they don't want Obama to get elected. Right wingers don't hesitate to admit this.

If it appears that McCain is going to lose anyway, its possible that the support McCain has left will collapse.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 02:06 PM
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15. I guess they didn't listen to McCain when he said you don't tell the Pakistanis
you're going in before you go.
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 03:11 PM
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16. 2008 is a set-up for Obama to be the 2009 scapegoat
When the $1.14 Q-U-A-D-R-I-L-L-I-O-N dollar Derivatives Market bubble crashes, gas will be $42.00/gallon, and there won't be any affordable Internet access.

A classic Rove trap. If Obama was losing, they'd fix the voting machines IN FAVOR of Democrats.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/IT-S-THE-DERIVATIVES-STUP-by-Ellen-Brown-080918-354.html
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 03:38 PM
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19. Gee, kkkaral, thanks for "giving" us the map -
But we're taking the popular vote as well.
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 03:40 PM
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20. Don't trust him.
He's up to no good.:evilfrown:
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 04:11 PM
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23. It's a TRICK!!!! Right? Crap, I don't even know anymore......n/t
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Lorentz Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 06:12 PM
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24. Everything is a trick, put on by the infinitely duplicitous GOP.
What a sad world some people live in...
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