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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:42 PM
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Mean Girls Allegedly Spit At, Poked Patients
Source: ABC News

Eight teenagers are facing charges after allegedly torturing residents suffering from Alzheimer's and dementia at a Minnesota nursing home.

Brianna Broitzman, 19, and Ashton Larson, 18, reportedly spit at, poked and rubbed the genitals of at least seven residents at the Good Samaritan Society nursing home in Albert Lea, Minn., according to a criminal complaint filed Monday and obtained by ABCNews.com.

Six others are also named in the complaint but are identified only by their initials because they are minors. Broitzman faces a total of 11 criminal charges and Larson faces 10 – including assault and abuse of a vulnerable adult with sexual contact.

The Albert Lea Police Department launched an investigation after they were notified of the suspected abuse of the adults suffering from Alzheimer's and dementia at the nursing home in May 2008. The probe led them to several young part-time nursing assistants.



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=6384741&page=1




Brianna Brotizman, 19, and Ashton Larson, 18, shown here on the Smoking Gun Web site, are charged with abusing of patients in a Minnesota nursing home.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:47 PM
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3. what is wrong with people ?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 10:45 AM
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74. -They took videos and pictures
They need to join the military ranks of prison guards.

Abu Ghraib needs these workers to keep up the good work

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:59 PM
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4. oh jesus christ!
and the good news:
"Defendants Face Up to One Year In Prison, $300,000 Fine if Convicted
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:21 PM
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10. That's odd.
Considering the charges, the jail time seems light and the fine really heavy.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:29 PM
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31. i suspect no one wants to put these fluffy little girls in prison.
Edited on Wed Dec-03-08 09:30 PM by orleans
prosecutors probably don't want to have these poor little girls lying in their jail bed and have some woman come and lay down beside them, kissing them and sticking their fingers up their rectum--like they did to some woman in the nursing home (according to the article)

Brianna Broitzman, 19, and Ashton Larson and the rest of them are a bunch of fucking little bitches. they are fucking disgusting.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:08 AM
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70. The potential fine is $3000 per count...
Not $300,000. Someone misread.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:01 PM
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36. The indictments
on smoking gun say that each count is punishable by up to 1 year and/or up to $3,000, not $300,000. I suppose if convicted on all counts they could get up to $30k, still not $300k.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 05:26 AM
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58. too bad. 300,000 seemed more appropriate. n/t
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 06:16 AM
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59. Yep, there are always the
civil suits that are undoubtedly waiting in the wings. Hopefully they effectively indenture these girls for a very long time to come. Sad part may be that if they do receive big civil judgments against them it could force them to pull an OJ...move to FL where there are more geriatrics than anyplace else on the planet.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:02 PM
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5. reading what they did, they should be charged with sexual abuse
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:17 PM
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9. Yep
...and their names photos, and addresses placed on sex-offender registries.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 08:10 AM
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61. I agree with their having to register on a sex offender site
Hey -- our newest bc is doing great, btw. Our trainer wants us to bring her to Mick's lesson so she can watch.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:03 PM
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6. At least in wasn't in Wisconsin!
(For all those in Wisconsin who were upset by the attempted Ed Gein redux
a couple of weeks ago.)
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:59 PM
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20. I thought for sure
<<< This was a Seattle story.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:42 PM
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45. With our history of serial killers,
it wouldn't be out of the question.
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:11 PM
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7. Lock 'em up!
Despicable. I hope the book gets thrown at them.
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:12 PM
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8. Wow. I can't even imagine what would have made them turn so bad.
Rubbing genitals!?! :wtf:
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:21 PM
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11. Where to start with these inmature girls
They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

They should be on the Sex Offender list.

These girls probably have never been held accountable for anything in their lives.

Just Pathetic!
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:21 PM
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27. This has nothing to do with maturity
this is knowing enough to treat another human being with respect. You have to wonder what kind of parents and grandparents they have.

My niece recently had her kids over at my mother's. When they arrived the 4 year old wanted great-grandma to pick her up. Mother explained she couldn't because her back hurts. When the kids were leaving the same little one hugged her great-grandma's leg and said "I'm sorry if I hurt your back."

These bags don't have the compassion a four year old can show and I hope the ones who are under 18 all get tried as adults and I hope they get a judge who decides a little jail time is just what they need.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:36 PM
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33. I think it is a combination of things
When I was 18 I would have never disrepected, ridiculed, mocked or abused an elderly person.

These girls were acting like they were 10 years old. That's the maturity part.

It is obvious these girls have never been taught to respect anyone. Lack of Respect for others.

Their parents probably did not discipline these girls at all. These girls more than likely were never held responsible for anything. - Poor Parenting.

But considering all of those things, these girls knew right from wrong and they proceeded to abuse these residents.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:18 PM
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40. I think most 10 year olds know better than to treat an elderly person like this
n/t
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:26 PM
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12. Nothing Like $ending An Immature Teen In To Do Mature Adult's Job
Edited on Wed Dec-03-08 08:26 PM by Crisco
Let's see ... how much money do you think the nursing home saved by hiring teenagers, as opposed to college educated adults, maybe even RN's or Nurse's assistants?

Licensed home health aids, maybe?

I'm not absolving the little animals of responsibility; just saying this would have been far less likely if there were more demanding requirements for personnel, and salaries to match.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:45 PM
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16. When I was 14, I worked as a Candy Striper in a military
hospital filled with wounded soldiers (Vietnam, not Iraq). I talked with them, wrote letters for them, emptied bed pans, helped give bed baths and change sheets, helped feed them and cleaned up the often nasty effluvia that comes with being sick and injured.

It was an eye-opening experience. Maybe I was too immature for it, I don't know. I do know that it would never even have occurred to me that I should take advantage of them, abuse them, spit on them, or molest them.

(It did convince me that I had no interest in nursing.)

I don't disagree that the standards of care in many senior care and nursing home facilities are abysmal - but I don't think that it's extreme to believe teens can work as aides.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:24 PM
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29. You Were a Volunteer?
I think that's really great you did that. But I also think it was a different era, when we expected teens to behave more maturely, in the first place.

There are plenty of wonderful, giving teens out there; these kids were obviously not taught to respect others and be helpful to people who are weaker than them.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:14 AM
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52. An unwilling volunteer. We lived in Japan,
my dad was one of the senior ranking officers on the base - and I was a pot-smoking, anti-war trouble-maker who loved to ditch school and thumb my nose at authority any way I could.

After several egregious 'episodes' in as many weeks, my dad 'suggested' that my 'volunteering' would be a good thing. If you catch my drift . . .

He was right. It didn't turn me into a saint, but it did open my eyes to a lot of things I hadn't considered. But it would stretch credulity to suggest I was all that mature even after my experiences in the wards.

I don't disagree that we have increasingly infantilised our children and that there are plenty of good ones out there. But it does seem that the bad seeds are bad in ways that I couldn't even have imagined at that age - and their reasoning for doing what they do is incomprehensible to me. I suspect these girls thought their behaviour was funny and harmless.

It's mind-boggling.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:57 PM
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48. I was a Candy Striper too, for 4 years thru High school
from 14-18 I spent 4-6 hours every Saturday at the one of the big city hospitals in Oakland. I learned lot, forged relationships with patients, took samples to labs, rolled folks to x-ray, helped them and their families get to the car when discharged, even had some really interesting training with traction equipment and helping transport a body to the morgue (that was wild!)

This was 1985 or so, and I was not a goody two shoes, the rest of the weekend I was partying with my friends and hanging out on Telegraph ave in Berkeley with the hippies...but when I was THERE (at the Hospital) I was responsible.
There was a code of ethics and it was understood that Volunteers had certain things they could not do, we couldn't take blood, couldn;t help people in ot out of bed, couldn't give meds, etc...and not once was abuse even thought of, by ANYONE...

WTF? I understand there are "bad apples" in every generation
BUT this kind of behavior is sociopathic!

I hope they get thrown in women's prison - you do realize that in prison, there is "special" treatment for people who are molesters, etc? those girls will be punished in all kinds of new ways....



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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:17 AM
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53. I hope they are punished to fit their crime.
And I hope they learn from it.

Your experience as a candy striper sounds a lot more interesting than mine (and I wasn't a goody two-shoes, either!)
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 03:17 PM
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84. My guess is that there were one or two socipaths
and the remainder went along in order to avoid becoming bullying targets themselves.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:36 PM
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13. They only face suspended sentences? They belong in the slammer and
on the sex offender registry.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:44 PM
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15. Of course the privilege of White Upscale Gated Community
background is the reason for such a slap of the wrist, had they been Black or Latino, they would been put in maximum security.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:53 PM
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19. Not really...
This is not an urban area. These stupid girls don't come from that background. They're C average kids, and nobody's watching them to make sure they learn anything. Typical crap from rural MN.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 04:48 PM
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86. shhh, quiet you
there you go with facts.
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Arger68 Donating Member (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:29 PM
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32. I live in Albert Lea. There are no gated communities here.
It's actually a very blue-collar area.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:37 PM
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14. Registered sex offenders if convicted.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:45 PM
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17. It gets worse and worse....
-They poked residents in the breasts and laugh when the residents got mad
-They would "hit" the residents on the genitals & breasts to get a reaction out of them
-They took videos and pictures
-One spit in a resident's mouth b/c they were upset that the resident was drooling
-They "spanked" a resident with his cane
-They'd rub vigorously on residents genital areas to arouse them
-One inserted a finger in a resident's rectum
-One put her bare ass in a resident's face
-They'd purposely try to make the residents more confused

This was something "fun to do at work."

They were confident they wouldn't get caught because the residents "did not have their minds."


One of the younger girls stated that the girls were just having fun because they were frustrated.

Are you ready for this? They're being charged with fucking misdemeanors! Are ya kidding me?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1202081minn1.html
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:00 PM
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34. They sound like sociopaths. nt
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:14 PM
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39. I agree.
Haven't read everything here, but I know some teen agers, have been and seen 'candy-stripers,' and have seen nursing homes.

This behavior sounds extreme to me, the sort of things not taught, modeled or condoned in any normal social group and at no age.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:05 PM
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37. Jail is the place for them.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:28 AM
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55. Abu Ghraib - The Sequel
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 08:08 AM
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60. Yep. Hey, if the government condones it, it must be OK, right?
The 19-year-old bitchy chickens have come home to roost, and we have our wonderful example-setting military to thank, partially.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:45 PM
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18. Albert Lea
Is not a big place. It's right on the Iowa/MN border and is surrounded by farm country. It's also not far from the place where some teenaged boys dropped a bowling ball onto I-90 and severely injured a truck driver when it went through a semi's windshield.

I've been blogging Minnesota stuff for a long time now. The rural areas are boring for teens, who tend to get themselves in all sorts of trouble...just trying to find something to do.

These girls are not untypical. Not really college material, they have limited choices. They can go into nurse assistant jobs, like this bunch did, to while away the time between drinking binges. They can, a couple of years later, when they hit 21, get jobs as cocktail waitresses in the many bars around the area.

They can get knocked up and married and go right on living small lives in these small towns.

One of these was the leader of her school's dance squad. The other was a sports announcer for the school radio station. Such is life. Dairy Queens and school dances with hay bales for decoration.

There are stories like this in our newspapers all the time. A girl turned 21 last year and drank herself to death while her friends watched here. They took her home and dumped her in bed, where she died of alcohol poisoning. Nothing else to do and nowhere else to go.

This bunch will get suspended sentences, I guarantee. They'll be replaced with some other bored high school graduates, who will be more careful.
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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:20 PM
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26. That was a good (if depressing) post
Living in the far north of Maine, the situation for young people up here can be much the same. It's getting worse as the years go by, not better, mainly because we have so many drugs coming in and they aren't going out. I'd estimate that at least 7 in 10 of every high school graduate was either hooked on a major drug at one point, or is now hooked. Many of them become alcoholics too.

An example of what this creates... local Mcdonalds, small town, looking for some new blood (employees). Over one hundred applicants. I imagine the same things happen in this area and no one finds out about them - or those who do just don't give a damn.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:27 PM
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30. The 21 year old who drank herself to death was a student at Mankato State
theoretically, she had some kind of a future. What she and her friends did could be classified as "really stupid college kid stuff" and could have happened (and probably does) at colleges all over the country, not just one in a rural area.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:09 AM
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71. You're right...bad example
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:10 PM
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38. So they did it because they don't live in a big city? What bull shit!!
I've known lots of great kids in northern Iowa, who would NEVER have done such awful things. Mature, healthy people can find meaningful relationships and work in any setting...and do. These women did this for a variety of reasons...but being in a rural community ain't one of 'em.

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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:21 AM
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54. I don't think anyone was saying that
I think though, that in rural areas, some of our less...... motivated/ambitious/inspired people tend to end up living unpleasant lives. Perhaps not smart enough to go beyond high school, perhaps doesn't give a damn... most likely gets hooked on drugs and doesn't have much of what you'd call a conscience. I'm not saying they all become that way, but a good number.

They didn't do it because they live in a small area, they did it, most likely because they're socio paths, though I'd definitely bet money that they were under the influence of a few drugs. Which, again, I'm not saying to excuse them, just commiserating (SP?) about the fate of a lot of rural people, my sympathy is for those who do NOT turn out that way yet live in similar circumstances.

I'm one of those rural people that didn't go beyond high school. Small place, severely limited options, it often feels like being stuck in a rut. Again though, I have no sympathy for the girls that did this, they deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law, as would anyone guilty of this.

If I can survive circumstances most likely quite similar, or worse than theirs without becoming a socio path myself, then there's no excuse for them.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:02 AM
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68. I did not say that all rural kids would do this.
Of course that's not true. It is a factor in this, though, I'm sure. These girls need to get some prison time to reflect on their actions. They probably won't, though.

My point was that they were bored and stupid.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 08:12 AM
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63. I grew up in boring, farm country -- we didn't do anything like this
Edited on Thu Dec-04-08 08:12 AM by LostinVA
I can't even imagine this. Our Church used to go to the old folks' home all the time and do things to help the patients and to entertain them. My sister was a Candy Striper. Ugh.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:03 AM
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69. Of course you didn't.
Not my point. The point is that, in some cases, kids from boring rural areas do act out. I gave another couple of examples. There are many more.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 03:42 PM
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85. No place is "boring", but people can be boring.
I'm a disabled person who may as well be on house arrest: short of doctor's appointments, I'm in my small apartment 24/7. If anyone has an excuse to be bored, it's people like me.

But you know what? I'm rarely bored. That's because boredom is not something that comes at one from the outside. It's the outcome of one's own failure to imagine up something interesting to do given one's circumstances.

Some circumstances are made deliberately to be as boring as possible, as a form of punishment, of course. Everyone's imagination fails them at times, of course. We can and do often benefit from someone else's ideas as to what is interesting. of course. But still, boredom is mostly an internally generated state.

Of course, I'm not a sociopath. If I were a sociopath, I'd be extremely bored, and I would probably be entertaining myself as a hacker, troll, or griefer somewhere online. That's because boredom is a known trait of sociopathy, and sociopaths find tormenting others to be particularly enjoyable.

While rural areas certainly could benefit from people using their imagination to enrich the culture and economy of their region, this story is mostly one of sociopathy and bullying.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 06:50 PM
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87. Off topic, but...
That link in your sig is incredible...Don't know how I missed reading about that the first time around....
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:11 PM
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21. now those are some sick little puppies!
:( especially that broitzmann chic....you should read the legal complaint on smoking gun - wow.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:14 PM
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22. Good Samaritan is a Lutheran organization and it is non-profit
from their website:


http://www.good-sam.com/about/default.asp

Our Mission

The mission of the Evangelical Lutheran Good Samaritan Society is to share God's love in word and deed by providing shelter and supportive services to older persons and others in need believing that "In Christ's Love, Everyone Is Someone".

Who We Are

The Evangelical Lutheran Good Samaritan Society is a Christian social ministry organization that seeks to share God's love in lively community settings and through services that support people in their own homes. In more than 230 locations around the country, Good Samaritan offers Christian Communities of Care in which seniors find many opportunities for a meaningful and full life. There are a host of housing options and services available, from senior living and assisted living to skilled nursing with rehabilitation and long-term care to home care.

The Good Samaritan Society’s goal for serving each resident or client is captured by its motto, "In Christ's Love, Everyone Is Someone."

The staff members at each Good Samaritan center form an integral part of these Christian communities. Whatever their job is, staff members are invited and trained to weave compassion and hospitality into their daily tasks. The loving relationships that grow between residents and staff help make real in each life a sense of God's presence and peace.

Hallmark Values and related Core Principles

Good Samaritan has four Hallmark Values which suggest its organizational priorities. Good Samaritan is Christ-centered, Resident-centered, Staff-centered, and Community centered.

The four related Core Principles are:

Compassion
All relationships within Good Samaritan flow from an encounter with and response to God's love in Christ.

Hospitality
Every resident finds the fullest possible life in a safe, secure and loving home.

Vocation
All staff members are called to care in a Christian community that offers them respect, support and opportunities to grow.

Service
The Good Samaritan Community reaches out to meet the needs of the wider community around it while inviting local residents to find meaning and hope by working in or volunteering at a Good Samaritan Community.


I'm sure there are many good people who work for Good Samaritan and who are truly ashamed and grieved over what happened and will work hard to be sure it never happens again. I am surprised they haven't shut the website down for a few days as the statements don't sound very believable at the moment.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:17 PM
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23. they fail at humanity
their parents must be proud...

and i hope someone at that nursing home 'accidentally' leaks the names of the minors...they need to be broadcast far and wide
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:17 PM
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24. Sickening.
Between this and the trampling of the man at Wal-Mart by shoppers fighting to get to the TV's I am sick of our culture. Yes, there's a lot of good people out there too but these types of stories bring out the tsk, tsk in us for oh, say one day and then it's back to the same old same old. Why can't we all look at this and start talking about how to elevate our society?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:19 PM
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25. "Mean girls"? WTF? Sexual assaultive women is more accurate.
"mean" my butt. Criminal. Sexual assault and assault of a vulnerable person is not "mean".
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:24 PM
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28. I hope karma will kick them in their asses and boobs.
I won't even call them human beings. Calling them animals is an insult to animals.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:17 PM
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49. Great point. I don't think they call male rapists "mean boys" in headlines.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:00 PM
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35. Another argument in favor of a return to the stocks.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:19 PM
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41. MYSPACE PAGE
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:23 PM
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42. The salient info:
Do you...
Smoke?: no
Do drugs?: no
Drink?: no
Go to church?: yes
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HopeFor2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:36 PM
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43. Gee, she hates drama
brianna's Blurbs
About me:
Hello!!!well my name is brianna im a junior at ALHS... I love DANCE!!!! I don't know what I would do without dance it's my life.. I love hanging out with my friends...I love to go roller blading and walking and i love shopping.. I don't really hate too many things im up for almost anything... I love doing random things and being goofy....im not ever really serious unless I have to be...my friends are the best... i think thats about it im pretty open to doin anything as long as its havin fun... I hate drama:)
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:49 PM
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50. I see she also doesn't believe in premarital sex
and is tolerant of others. Apparently elderly people don't count.

More about you:
Do you live in the moment?: sometimes
Do you consider yourself tolerent to others?: yes
Do you have any secrets?: some
Do you hate yourself?: no
Do you have any bad habits?: no
If you were another person, would you be friends with you?: yes
Any regrets?: couple
Do you think life has been good so far?: yes
Are you confident?: yes
Talk to people even if you hate them?: yes
Believe in premarital sex?: no
Want to get married?: yes
Want to go to college?: yes
Get along with you parents?: yes
Get along with your sibling/s?: yes
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:40 PM
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:50 PM
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46. My stepfather recently died from Alzheimer's
He was a sweet-natured, generous man with tremendous musical talent, and even when he was in the depths of dementia, he remained pleasant and cheerful.

If anyone had abused him like that, I (and, I'm sure, my brothers) would have had to be restrained from killing them with our bare hands.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:13 PM
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79. I know what you mean. My mother died of dementia.
When she was in a care facility, someone stole her wedding ring.

We hadn't taken it off of her because it was really STUCK! And it was just a simple gold band that had originally been purchased for about $30.

Well, it got stolen. It made me furious, not because of the financial value of the ring, but the fact that getting it off of her was a physical assult that must have hurt and frightened her.

She had lost the ability to speak by that point, so there was no way of finding out who did it.

I hope the $20 they got from pawning the thing made them happy.

Bastards.

:mad:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 06:55 PM
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88. i know how you feel
someone stole my father's cheapo eyeglasses while he was at a longterm care center...the monetary value had to be next to nothing....
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:57 PM
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47. Damnable swine, the lot of them.
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BNMarin Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:59 PM
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51. They deserve jail
I can't imagine what my reaction would be if I found out my mom is treated in such way by these brats.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:30 AM
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56. I hate these people
If someone had done that to my grandparents, law or no law, I would have shown them no mercy.

I wish these two girls sad, unhappy, miserable livves. I hope karma hits them in a big way
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 03:51 AM
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57. I'm glad that DU is a LIBERAL community
Otherwise, there might be some real hatred poured out on the suspects.

We believe in "innocent until proven guilty", unlike the Freepers, who condemn first and hold the trial later.

--p!
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 08:11 AM
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62. Sometimes the difference is minute.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 08:12 AM
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64. The precept of innocent until
proven guilty is for juries. Others are free to think whatever they please. If these little shits had done to my grandparents what they are accused of here, I'd hunt the bitches down. I hope they see jail time and I hope the families of these victims sue them so they're never out of debt. Miserable maggots.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 08:14 AM
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65. I'm not on those little sociopaths' jury, and being liberal doesn't mean turning a blind eye
Edited on Thu Dec-04-08 08:14 AM by LostinVA
The girls who aren't minors should be charged with felonies and serve jail time. But, they are white and from "good homes," so nothing will happen to any of the vile little ^%$#@.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:31 AM
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90. It gets a little tiring after a while, doesn't it?
I always wonder, with an article like this, just how much of the true story is getting out? I remember the Little Rascals Day Care furor, and I'm sure there would have been dozens of "Off with their heads!" posts about the suspects in that case if DU had existed back then.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 08:57 AM
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66. If it is true, then, they should be prohibited from a nursing career.
Edited on Thu Dec-04-08 08:57 AM by lonestarnot
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 10:49 AM
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75. Maybe a Military Career is in store for them


ABC News has obtained two new photos taken at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq showing Spc. Charles Graner and Spc. Sabrina Harmon posing over the body of a detainee who was allegedly beaten to death by CIA or civilian interrogators in the prison's showers. The detainee's name was Manadel al-Jamadi. Mark Rothschild writes about the details of this poor man's death.

And then there's Lynndie

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 06:58 PM
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89. very true
Psychologically, when someone or a group of people are viewed as less than human or unworthy of life, it is a very short step to committing atrocities...
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:01 AM
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67. I am shocked--shocked that Minnesotans would do things like that.


These girls need some serious counseling.



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JohnAB Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:27 AM
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72. love each other,

Were , are the young people that can think?
Have they been given so much that they can no longer find it?

Have we all lost the well to correct what is wrong.
By walking fast and not seeing it?

Reach out to the weak with education and not to stuff the mind with crude aggregations of imperfect knowledge.

But rather to the development of its powers of observation, comparison, analysis, and
Reasoning.
To strengthening and instructing its moral sense and leading it to self-knowledge and consequent modesty.

The sublime and the ridiculous are often so nearly related,
That it is difficult to class them separately.

I fear we have . John

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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 10:27 AM
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73. Remember this article when you think about putting your folks into a nursing home.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 11:26 AM
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76. it's a frightening thought!
:scared:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:47 PM
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78. When my mother was in a nursing home, near the end of her life,
my dad went everyday. He left the house mid-morning, helped her eat lunch, took her for a walk or sat with her in the afternoon, helped her eat dinner, and left after she went to bed. I thought it was a bit much, and was wearing him out. Now, I'm grateful he did it. Shouldn't be necessary, though. We're supposed to be able to trust these facilities and their staff.
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:30 PM
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77. They should be prosecuted as sex offenders
Lower than scum. :grr:
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:44 PM
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80. Father defends teen charged in nursing home abuse case
Edited on Thu Dec-04-08 01:45 PM by dflprincess
http://www.startribune.com/local/35539384.html

The father of one of the southern Minnesota teenagers charged with sexually humiliating and abusing numerous vulnerable nursing home residents said in a nationally televised statement today that some of the allegations against his daughter are not "as they appear" and "have been distorted" in news accounts.

According to the criminal complaint, Ashton Larson admitted to police that she inserted her finger into a resident's rectum. She said she was trying to trigger a bowel movement but acknowledged that this was not part of her training.

She also admitted getting into bed with a resident and making a humping motion. "I might have done the motion , but she was no where near me," the complaint quotes Larson as telling police.

She also admitted to patting the buttocks of one resident and trying to get another mad and then laughing at her.

Michael Larson contended in his statement that "my daughter was doing nothing more than performing the duties of her job."


Apparently the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 02:00 PM
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82. Michael Larson is lucky that his pig of a daughter didn't come
anywhere near my father when he was in a nursing home. I would have killed her.

And, sticking a finger in someone's rectum to trigger a bowl movement only works with impaction. She was being the little pig he brought her up to be.

If he is going to defend her, he should rot in jail with her.

:puke:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:56 PM
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81. Wow
That's fucked up.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 03:00 PM
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83. "Mean" girls?! Try "sociopathic"!
"Mean" would been if maybe they'd said, "Good afternoon, you old farts!"

This is just plain sick.

And it happens all the time in institutions like nursing homes. There have been cases of women who never left the home becoming pregnant (not all people in nursing homes are elderly; some, like Terri Schiavo, have disabilities). Obviously, they were raped by staff members. :grr: :banghead:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 10:47 AM
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91. "Mean?" Try fucking EVIL. And OF COURSE they'll get off light...
This is after all what America's corporate culture yields: garbage in, garbage out.

And you know that had this degree of molestation and abuse been carried out by a male nurse, the press wouldn't immediately rely on soft, euphemistic language to downplay the seriousness of the crimes.

It makes one wonder just how many ostensibly 'normal' people out there are actually sicko shitsacks who specifically seek to work in a profession that affords them the opportunity to abuse and wield power over others.
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:48 PM
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92. Calling them "mean girls" trivializes their crimes
These women committed serious crimes and the situation should be treated and reported seriously.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:14 PM
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93. Boggles the mind.
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 05:19 PM by lizzy
By the way punishment they are facing for what they allegedly did seems really light. Anyone wants to bet that if those were young men accused of doing the same thing they would not be facing probation but some real prison time?
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