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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 04:00 AM
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Roman battlefield discovered in northern Germany
Edited on Tue Dec-16-08 04:21 AM by adsosletter
Source: AP

KALEFELD-OLDENRODE, Germany (AP) — Archaeologists say they have uncovered a third-century battlefield in northern Germany which could prove that Roman legions were fighting in the region much later than historians have long believed.

At a press conference Monday, archeologists said they used coins and weaponry excavated from an area 1 1/2 kilometers (one mile) long and 500 meters (1/3 of a mile) wide to date the battlefield

Guenther Moosbauer, an expert at the University of Osnabrueck who studies Roman-German history, said he suspects the battle might have been started by a legion seeking revenge after tribesman in A.D. 235 pushed Roman troops south of the Limes Germanicus, a ring of forts that separated the empire from unconquered land to the north and east

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iY8SwRu6dheaLnRSctQr8uOG-lAgD95399Q01



Edited to add: some artifact pictures at the link.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 04:05 AM
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1. New knowledge. Neat!
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 04:10 AM
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2. Great - Thanks great post....
At one time, I gave tours in Trier to the Roman ruins.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 06:12 AM
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4. I visited Trier some years back--remarkable preservation of the ruins
I kind of dragged the family to a variety of Roman sites on a trip to France & Germany and Trier was high on list. Neat place.
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mariema Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 01:39 PM
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11. We visited Trier at least once a year while living in Germany
Every one who came to visit us got to go to Trier. Maybe you were our guide at one time or other.

We are such history and architecture buffs. We also visited a city in Nordrhein-Westfalen called Xanten, site of the Roman Colony Ulpia Traiana
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DrCory Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 06:04 AM
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3. Fantastic Find
For Romanophiles such as myself. Still patiently awaiting concrete identification of the Clades Variana site.
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OldEurope Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 06:20 AM
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5. Try this
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 06:51 AM
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6. Good find thanks
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 09:09 AM
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7. 235 AD is about 55 years after Marcus Aurelius, the last of the "five good emperors."
You know, Marcus Aurelius, the Emperor in the movie Gladiator.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 10:31 AM
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9. Also right at the start of the third-century collapse (nt)
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 09:30 AM
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8. But did they find WMDs? Damn, these reports never tell you what you want to know.
Edited on Tue Dec-16-08 09:31 AM by yellowcanine
Inquiring minds want to know these things.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 10:36 AM
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10. More importantly, did they find Russell Crowe's autograph?
(Yes, I know I'm probably mixing up my Roman ages.)

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 07:12 PM
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12. Russell Crowe was there around the time of the emperor
Lucius Aelius Aurelius Commodus 161-192 Emperor 180 - 192.

His autograph had already disintegrated, however they did find some edible Roman MREs.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:20 AM
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14. MREs: ;-)
What would that acronym be in Latin?

Something about Comestibles and Mange (sp)?

Tesha

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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 07:58 PM
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13. Which battle was it
Edited on Tue Dec-16-08 07:58 PM by edwardlindy
that caused the Romans to withdraw from Germany ? It was the one where they got ambushed in a valley on sodden ground and were almost wholly wiped out.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 09:19 AM
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15. Teutoburger Wald.
Augustus wanted to stabilize the border of the empire on the Elbe River because it would make the length of the border much shoter, and this easier to defend. that battle screwed up that plan.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 10:24 AM
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16. Thanks
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