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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-21-09 10:59 PM Original message |
NSA Spied on Journalists? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-21-09 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. my word |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Deja DU: Nov 2007 Are ALL COMMUNICATIONS routed overseas to circumvent US law and the Constitution? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 04:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
35. /facepalm |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
79. U: no such thing as "overseas" TRUE, except for reach of US laws. |
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Born Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 05:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
40. just the opposite, |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
78. And Corporate Espionage. |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
69. Is it Kosher? |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-21-09 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes, yes they did, and I think we all knew this before |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-21-09 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. Why does this subject line have a question mark |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-21-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The problem will be with Congress,... |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-21-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. FISA FISA FISA... That was one of the worst things ever done by any COngress!!!!!!!!!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 01:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. The whole thing, or just the last part? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. retroactive immunity. which sent the 40 odd lawsuits into netherland. not sure what you are asking. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 02:05 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Agree . . . should have gone forward and shut anything but original FISA down . . . |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
90. FISA was good. It's Bush's ignoring FISA that is horrible. |
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CitizenPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I've been suggesting this as a cause for Pelosi's reticence for some time |
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keith the dem (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
58. Congress people have to raise enormous amounts |
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Flying Dream Blues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
70. I had to come to that conclusion, too, aggiesal. After Nancy Pelosi's |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #70 |
82. Pelosi said that "Impeachment was off the table..." ... |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-21-09 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. It will be interesting to monitor whether this story gets covered by other news orgs |
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FightingIrish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-21-09 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. Does this explain why Bernie Ward is in Prison? |
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pjt7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-21-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. They had to do that after stealing 2 elections |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
10. Uh, heads up, folks. |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I completely agree with what you're stating, but... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 01:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Be careful what you wish for? |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Should the government be required to obtain a judge's warrant to get a peek at a credit report? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 04:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Should the government get a warrant for all web-page views? |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 01:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Yes on the warrant; further, public debate on the issue is in order |
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lifesbeautifulmagic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
11. tip of the iceberg |
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NBachers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 02:27 AM Response to Reply #11 |
28. I want to hear about their spying on the Kerry campaign |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
13. You tell people this and they think your crazy... |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. One more thing .... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 05:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
43. You are wrong. |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
91. You think they use disks and CPU's? Or is that just a figure of speech? |
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trthnd4jstc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
15. I wonder if they spied on Bush and Cheney? I would guess no on Cheney. Are there Bush Tapes? |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
17. They only spied on non-CIA journalists. |
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Optical.Catalyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 05:21 AM Response to Reply #17 |
42. The common journalist doing his job finds out information spy satellites and computer can't |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
18. May have to leave Gitomo open after all.... |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #18 |
60. Word (nt) |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
21. the NSA has been brought so low. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
23. Here we go. Now, this is where the rubber meets the road. This guy needs his job protected. (nt) |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
27. tell us something we don't know, tice |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
29. So, the post-Bush whistleblowing begins. |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
30. Here's what I know: |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 04:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. The current financial chaos model has been quite profitable. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 03:01 AM Response to Original message |
31. Like I said, imagine the worst |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 03:38 AM Response to Original message |
32. Just wait until we find out Rove was getting NSA intercepts of Kerry's communications. |
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corpseratemedia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #32 |
55. Bingo!!! |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #32 |
57. No - it explains why so many JOURNALISTS were protecting Bush and editing Kerry's campaign |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Speak no evil |
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Flying Dream Blues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #57 |
72. Which begs the question, why didn't they use this to help McSame get elected? nt |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. An engaged DNC that worked on party infrastructure state by state - McAuliffe's didn't |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. By the way.... |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
85. I'd also add that there's no love lost between those camps. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
61. In The Words Of **$h: "Let's Roll" (nt) |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 03:41 AM Response to Original message |
33. Given the urgency with which the Telecoms pursued immunity, spying must have been quite extensive |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 04:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. You have no idea. |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 03:54 AM Response to Original message |
34. K&R |
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kmdemqueen (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
37. nothing shocks me |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 05:14 AM Response to Original message |
41. We need to clean out the NSA |
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Connonym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 05:34 AM Response to Original message |
44. raise your hand if you're shocked by this |
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ashling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
45. They spied on "everyone" |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
46. So I could file a FOIA on someone like Vitter? I mean, if he's got |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
47. More of this will be exposed in the coming days, weeks & years |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
48. add another charge to the list |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
49. So far, |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
50. Wow -- Republicon Homelanders spying wholesale on Americans |
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pjt7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 07:31 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Maybe this is why the head of the NSA (Hayden) |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
52. As if we didn't already know this. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
53. Nixon did the same thing |
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pmorlan1 (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
54. Why Olbermann is breaking this story and not the NYT? |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #54 |
74. January 05, 2006 |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
80. Because the NYT covered up the story until after the election ??? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
56. Didn't we already know this? |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
59. But wasn't this about stopping terrorism? |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Im sure they have spied on any Dem that has ran in the primaries in 2004 and 2008 |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. I worked for Kerry in Ohio 2004 |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. That island didn't happen to be Saipan... or maybe Guam? |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Very suspicious. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #65 |
83. Do you remember which island that was? nt |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
88. wow.. your IT people should put together a documentary with other IT and OH election officials |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
62. Who's shocked? Anyone? |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
64. In 2003-04, a friend was visiting India. He made a call to a friend back in the U.S. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
66. Oh my goodness... we had NO idea! |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
67. If the members of Bush's administration don't go to jail.. |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
75. Civil Lawsuits |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
76. Nice to know Mark Klein wasn't some crazy conspiracy theorist |
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azul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
77. Selective story coverage highlights media problems. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. I believe a depression would be more likely to follow |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
87. I guess this would be news to many, but everyone on DU knew it & therefore I'm glad KO |
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Sheltiemama (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
89. Oh, I assume I'm on some list somewhere. |
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PuppyBismark (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-22-09 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
92. Technically, the only way to monitor many people is to monitor everyone |
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