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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:30 PM
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Official: Obama to repeal 4 Bush executive orders
Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama plans to overturn four Bush-era executive orders that organized labor opposed.

A labor official tells The Associated Press that Obama will reverse one order that allowed unionized companies to post signs informing workers that they were allowed to decertify the union. Critics said the order was unfair because nonunion businesses were not required to post signs letting workers know they were legally allowed to vote for a union.

The official says the other three orders address similar administrative rules for labor groups. The official disclosed the plans on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to pre-empt the White House's plans.


Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jEtOI8ay_-XoZrKX9qFZBXsDQb7wD9611PHG0
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:39 PM
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1. Remember when Ralph Nader told us that there was no difference between us and them?
Elections have consequences. End of story.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:41 PM
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3. Well, let's face it -- in his first WEEK, Obama has done more for the little guy than Clinton.
So yeah, there's a difference -- between Dems, too.

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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:09 PM
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10. and more than Ralph Nader ever did. He helped Bush get selected in 2000.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:09 PM
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:42 PM
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19. Deal with it - Ralph TRAITOR earned his name
He gave us 8 years of corruption and lies by enabling Bush into the White house which has dealt the working Class Citizens the worst blow since the Great Depression - The RATpublican Great Depression of 2008
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:12 PM
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24. bushco would have found their way into the white house any way possible
they didn't need nader, but they did use him to their advantage.

remember the SC? the brooks bros riots? voter suppression?
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:57 PM
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25. Nader made the difference that allowed Bush to steal the WH
No matter how you slice it - that is how History has recorded it

Even the Best Rovian Spin Meister can NOT delute that fact

- If not for Ralph Nader......
Bush would not have been elected
We would not have the Iraq War
911
Spying on Americans
Secret Torture Camps
And the 2nd GREAT DEPRESSION

Thanks Ralph...for nothing
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 03:24 AM
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30.  "Deal With It"...

You, and others, repeating this myth doesn't make it any more accurate!

If you are so convinced that your assertion is true perhaps you have some believable corroboration or solid evidence to offer?

Gore lost in 2000 with a lot of help from the fascists backing "shrub" in Florida and Washington DC, and, of course, the Rethugs on the SCOTUS.

Nader just made for a convenient scapegoat required to shift the focus from the Democratic Party's stunning incompetence when push came to shove post election. Literally!!!

If you want to cast blame, then blame those responsible for Gore winning the election but then, somehow, losing the opportunity he certainly won to be the elected POTUS.

Chew on that!

Think!

Think for yourself and please don't repeat, inaccurately, historical facts.


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 10:14 AM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 10:51 AM
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DumpDavisHogg Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:28 PM
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6. Well, yeah, after all the DLC's crap
Luckily, the DLC's dominance within the Democratic Party seems to have subsided greatly since January 20.

Obama has done a lot more in 9 days than Clinton did in 8 years.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:39 PM
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13. I used to admire Ralph Nader. Now I only consider him a self-serving idiot nt
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:20 PM
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18. Care to articulate why? Please don't lower yourself and blame Nader for "shrub"!

Have you read his books?

Listened to his speeches?

Ever had the opportunity to meet him?

Posts like this one that just express ones intolerance are boring, irrelevant and do more to indicate the ignorant narrow-mindedness of the writer than throw any "light" on the subject.

Why bother?

I actually expect better from someone using a Basque name for their "handle" as a descendant of Basques myself.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:43 PM
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20. Ah, the smug superiority of Naderites.
Who can't handle the irrelevance Ralph earned with his egotism.

Sign me,

Still disgusted in New York
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 04:05 AM
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32. Casting aspersions on Ralph Nader's character...


like your referring to him as having a large ego is easy to say and easy to repeat ad nauseam. Nader's supposed ego had nothing to do with his candidacy in 2000, or ever.

A closer examination of the pertinent FACTS undisputedly reveals Nader's candidacy wasn't a factor in "shrub's" selection in 2000.

It is a "Convenient Myth" though!
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:27 PM
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36. Nader has allowed his ego transform him into a sad joke...
but the idea that he singlehandedly threw the election to Bush is stupid. There were plenty of problems with the Floridian election in 2000, and there is evidence that Gore should have won that state, Nader notwithstanding.

What there isn't any evidence for is the assertion that a single Nader vote would have necessarily translated into a vote for Gore. If you are buying into the line that "there isn't a dimes worth of difference" between Democrats and Republicans, I'm going to have to call bullshit on the theory that you might actually be a committed democratic voter who is having their mind tragically warped. I know people like that, and they generally don't bother to show up to the polls.

The party could have done better for itself in 2000, and it has since then.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:53 PM
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21. For accepting money from the Repukes to run and take votes away from Democrats
He's an ass.
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 04:16 AM
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33. Very weak reasons for your antipathy...


He was a candidate for a political office, he, and any/every candidate, takes money from any legitimate source. Believe it or not, Democrats aspiring for political office often and gratefully accept contributions from Rethuglicans!

Of course Nader didn't "take votes away from Democrats"! he was only involved as a candidate in one race, that for POTUS. So he couldn't have taken votes from more than one Democrat.

Right?

Furthermore those who chose to vote for Nader didn't owe their vote to anyone else, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian or Socialist Workers(if they had a candidate). They voted for the candidate that appealed to them for whatever reason and that apparently was not Al Gore.

Gore won, don't forget that!!!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:54 PM
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22. Basque or not, he was violently angry with Democrats, and set out to destroy this country....
to punish us. I am a Democrat.

I will read nothing of his, and I turn the station when I see his disgusting face.

He lost my respect in 2000.
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PinkyisBlue Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:35 AM
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28. I used to like Nader, and I agree with most of his ideas.
But I'll never forgive him for giving us "W". I kept hoping he would do the right thing in 2000 and drop out of the election to enable Gore to win by an indisputable margin, but he never did. He knew he himself didn't stand a chance of winning, and he purposely screwed up the election.
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 03:50 AM
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31. An indisputable margin in an election is one(1) vote!


Why should he have dropped out? In case the Rethugs were going to try to steal the election? Because the Democratic Party was inept?

"Nader Haters" make the weakest arguments to explain their antipathy, arguments without basis in the reality of what actually happened and what, tragically as it turned out, didn't happen.

I sure didn't see "Nader Haters" in the streets agitating and demonstrating their anger at getting screwed when the SCOTUS ruled in "shrub's" favor!

Gore won!

There is/was no disputing that legitimately!

The inability of the Democratic Party to stop the Rethugs from stealing the election for the office of the POTUS right out from under Gore should be the focus of your ire, not Ralph Nader.

Any unbiased account not tainted by rationalizations or an agenda protecting incompetence would agree. I have mentioned on this thread who is perpetuating this tired canard.

Many who understand what happened have despaired of attempting to explain to "Nader Haters" how their feelings are misplaced and why the "inconvenient truth" is ignored by some.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:35 PM
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37. That bullshit meme has been debunked time and time and time again.
When the Pelosi traitor held down the nation while the criminal Bush Junta raped it over and over and over -- putting us in the Depression we are now in -- Nader was right on target. And we won't even get into the Alito and Roberts disasters, the Mukasey catastrophe, the ongoing torture, the constantly over and over and over bowing to GOP demands.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:40 PM
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2. This is good, but I sure hope there were more than just four

I expect these four had to do with unionizing which is why the headline says only four.

Hopefully all Bush Executive Orders have been repealed. I bet there is not a good one in the bunch.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:43 PM
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4. There will be.
Many, many more.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:38 PM
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12. I'd like to see them go a few at a time, so people can see what he's killing and why
And there might be a benign one or two, like a proclamation of Cheese Appreciation Day or something. Obama'd talked about killing about two hundred of Bush's EOs during the election and since, though.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:51 PM
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14. Yes, there've been others
The one that immediately jumps to my mind is his rescinding the Executive Order by Bush that implemented the .

As you said, the "four" means four actions related specifically to unionization.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:09 PM
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17. Everything except EO 13306 should be repealed
Executive Order 13306 establishes the Bob Hope American Patriot Award, which is "awarded to any civilian individual who "who has demonstrated extraordinary love of country and devotion to the personnel of the United States Armed Forces, in the form of true patriotism." Since no one has received it since 2003, either all of America is unpatriotic (unlikely) or it was specifically intended for Bob Hope.

Repeal the rest of them, though.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:09 PM
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5. K & R!Thanks for posting!
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eauclaireliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:37 PM
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7. This tells me...
absolutely nothing. Turning speculation into a news item is how Fox works.
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AliceIsWonderland Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:56 PM
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8. it seems to me
that the difference is that dems generally cater to the nice 1/2 of the 1/2 of people who care to vote

reps cater to the mean 1/2 of the 1/2 of the people who care to vote

bright people vote for the candidate who most represents their views

dems and reps have found out how to control the voting public - cater to each side who actually believe there isn't one giant ugly head called government

hence you have the government you asked for - one that has you all by the toe and keeps making you think you have won something...

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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:05 PM
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9. As a Union man, I'm loving this.
Keep it coming.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:35 PM
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11. 18R's and counting....

On a labor story????


K&R!

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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:00 PM
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15. Everyday, Obama makes me proud!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:00 PM
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23. What about the de-unionizing of FEMA contracts in New Orleans?
Was that an executive order? I seem to recall it was Bush (i.e., Cheney), not Congress.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:32 PM
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26. K&R. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:36 PM
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27. Labor helped us
so much get elected and I'm so glad their orgs are getting something back.
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silver10 Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:35 AM
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29. I love Obama!

And pray for him every day to have stength - he is not wasting a second!!!

Buck Fush and his cronies!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 03:19 PM
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38. 4? lets make that 400.
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