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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 07:19 PM
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Death row inmate seeks new trial in 'Boys Don't Cry' murder case
Source: Omaha World Herald

LINCOLN — Death-row inmate John Lotter asked the Nebraska Supreme Court for a new trial Tuesday based on recanted testimony from his co-defendant in a 1993 triple murder case that drew national attention.

The co-defendant, Marvin "Tom" Nissen, now says he pulled the trigger to kill three people in a Humboldt farmhouse. At trial, Nissen said Lotter killed all three.

Lotter was sentenced to death for the murders of Teena Brandon, 21, of Lincoln; Lisa Lambert, 24, of Humboldt; and Philip DeVine, 22, of Fairfield, Iowa.

The crimes inspired the 1999 movie "Boys Don’t Cry."

Read more: http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10577648
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 07:33 PM
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1. Rule of vicarious liability
Do they have that in Nebraska for capital crimes? If so, then it doesn't matter who pulled the trigger. They acted in concert to commit the crimes.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 07:33 PM
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2. They were both there
It was a hate crime. I say make it a seat for 2 on old sparky. Light em up.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:19 PM
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7. Under Indiana law, they would both get the death penalty
One does not have to be the triggerman in a premeditated murder to get the death penalty.
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jb5150 Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 07:40 PM
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3. If he participated in any way it doesn't matter
if he pulled the trigger...

My understanding is that if 3 people rob a bank and someone is killed during the robbery, the one who sat in the getaway car the whole time is still guilty of murder.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 08:14 PM
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4. The Sheriff Who Let Those SOBs
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 08:14 PM by tonysam
off after they raped Teena should have also done prison time. If it weren't for him letting those two off the hook, perhaps the three victims would be alive today. A lawsuit wasn't justice in this case.

Crime Library has a lengthy article about this horrible case.

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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 09:16 PM
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5. The sheriff gets to skate, more's the pity
Thanks to Castle Rock v. Gonzales, among others

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 09:19 PM
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6. That's prime time for jury nullification in my book
I would never convict on this stupid principle, and I don't care if it has been in English common law since the 1600's. It's asinine. I convict people for the crimes they commit. Full stop.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 03:07 AM
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8. But these guys killed all the witnesses
except the two year old daughter of one of the victims. So how do you prove who committed the crime when each one says the other one actually pulled the trigger?

They were both complicit in the rape. They both got guns and went to the house where Brandon was hiding. One or the other (or both of them) killed three people.

I think it's fair to say that both of them are responsible for all three killings since it's impossible to sort out otherwise who is telling the truth.
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