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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 11:46 PM Original message |
Chavez orders nationalization of Cargill |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. throw them out |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Excuse me, how do you know the company "created" those jobs? |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. since you're so supportive of crap like this |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 02:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Strawman. And you still give no links. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 04:38 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. You're all over the place, aren't you? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Nationalize Toyota and Honda in the US! |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
48. Well, it'd be pretty much the only way to have an American car industry worth a damn... |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
87. I'm waiting for Obama to start talking about nationalizing some of the foreign owned industry here |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #19 |
76. Do you think before you post? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. LOL... all hail Corporations and Business |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
3. mugabe should be a lesson.. |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Cynic |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
30. ooga booga! invoke unrelated magic antecedent, win argument... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. Aww, care to post some intelligent content |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Is this supposed to be a joke? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
71. Cuba is great |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. PS - Cuba is not just third world... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #73 |
86. SO great no one can leave |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. If they can't leave, then how is it that 1.5 million left... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Please. Did they fly here? Take a safe boat? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:09 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. What about the Mexican illegals? Do they fly here? Take a safe boat? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:19 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Technically no |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:23 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. What does North Korea have to do with it? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Border gurads Point guns IN in N. Korea |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
4. Good! nt |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 12:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
74. Foreign investments will dry up. Not good. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
5. Ahhh, the smell of freedom |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. they've already arrived |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
9. Yeah!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
10. Lovely, lovely to see someone standing up to exploiters . . . |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. Time to nationalize Citgo in the US. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. I suggested a similar strategy of nationalizing foreign owned refineries in the US |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
11. The elite of Venezuela are whining they have to stop gouging the public |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 03:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Which makes them pretty much like the elite of any country. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
12. Chavez is a dead man. |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
28. No he is not. Chavez, like Castro, knows how to surround himself |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Hell with your (presumably wishful) prediction. |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
90. He deserves it. Chavez is a scumbag and a thief. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:27 AM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Post your links to substantiate your assertions. I'm sure you've got some, don't you? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #90 |
99. That is not for you to judge. Venezuelan voters decide, not you. |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
13. I see the apologists of corporate exploitation are here defending big AG and their hit squads. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Nationalize Apple in the US... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 12:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
75. LOL! And some DU'ers are too stupid to grasp the obvious truth that foreign capital will dry up |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 03:08 AM Response to Original message |
15. Hmm. Cargill? |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 03:19 AM Response to Original message |
16. Back in 2000, before 9/11, there was a coup attempt on Chavez |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
17. Cargill has been evading govt price controls |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Odd.. |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Odd, the leader of a country |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Like I said.... |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Do we know for a fact that the price controls were below cost? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Below cost is what leads to shortages.... |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Is the cheaper rice |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. You provided the figures.... |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. You would think. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. So people are forced to buy "spendy" |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Right |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Ground.... |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. People don't read. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Good catch... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Some people don't read. The law is that Cargill has to produce |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
77. Did you bother to read the article? |
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Lost in CT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 01:16 AM Response to Reply #17 |
79. Good for them... govt price controls only create shortages and starve the populace. nt |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
20. Incredible - the story is about rice, but it took until reply #17 for someone to mention that |
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Belial (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 07:49 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Wonder if other countries will start to follow this course? |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Thank you! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. danke |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
52. Thank You, Muriel! |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
22. Simple math will eventually catch up with Chavez |
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scrinmaster (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
27. No sane company is going to risk investing in Venezuala now. |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. That's what was said when Chavez nationalized oil |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. and after taking over majority control, the Ven. government is asking them to invest more |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
43. "at the drop of a hat" --> try RTFA next time (nt) |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
45. I second the motion to nationalize Citgo and the Hovensa refinery too |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Uh |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. follow the Cargill model maybe??? |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I've no love for Cargill but |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. The guy that pulled this "stunt" has done more to improve his country's food security |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. that is completely false. Ven is a net food importer |
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Lost in CT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 01:20 AM Response to Reply #60 |
80. What the hell are you talking about... high inflation and food shortages is not an improvement. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:09 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I'm talking about a poverty rate cut in half and food security being made policy. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. They have more than one product. n/t |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. So? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. The answer to your question may require math. |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I'm a business owner |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. That's your model. Cargill is not losing money. |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. They are losing money at that particular plant |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Well, no. The government hasn't defaulted on anything, |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I think business' aim is to make money |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Yeah, we were completely |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:20 AM Response to Reply #70 |
82. Baloney. Maybe you have some other objective measure |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. quite the financial genius |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
72. Seize Citgo! |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:11 AM Response to Reply #72 |
92. That ain't happening. For obvious reasons. |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
78. hmm... the president would have no right in disclosing private business interactions |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:21 AM Response to Reply #78 |
83. What private business transactions? They were breaking the law. |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Do you have proof Cargill is breaking the law? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. It's simpler than that. They're supposed to produce 85% plain white rice |
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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 03:37 AM Response to Reply #85 |
97. Anyone know how long Chavez gave Cargill to switch the plant's production facilities to meet quotas? |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
96. Hugo Chavez just doesn't understand that the business of life is business - he evil. |
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