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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 04:55 PM
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N Korea Says Intercepting Satellite Would Mean War-State Media
Source: AFP

SEOUL (AFP)--North Korea warned Monday that it would retaliate against any attempt to intercept a satellite it plans to launch, and that shooting down the rocket would result in war.

"We will retaliate any act of intercepting our satellite for peaceful purposes with prompt counter strikes by the most powerful military means," a spokesman for the General Staff of the Korean People's Army warned.

---SNIP
The retaliation, it added, would be aimed "not only against all the interceptor means involved but against the strongholds of the U.S. and Japanese aggressors and the South Korean puppets who hatched plots to intercept it."

Read more: http://tinyurl.com/b6kszv
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 04:56 PM
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1. ALSO: N Korea Orders Military To Be Combat Ready - State Media
SEOUL (AFP)--North Korea has ordered its military to be combat ready, state media said early Monday, ahead of joint U.S.-South Korean maneuvers that Pyongyang has described as a prelude to war.

In a statement carried by the Korean Central News Agency, the Korean People's Army described the Key Resolve/Foal Eagle drill starting Monday as " unprecedented in the number of the aggressor forces involved and in their duration."

"The KPA Supreme Command issued an order to all the servicepersons to be fully combat ready," the statement said.

"This is a just measure for self-defense for protecting the sovereignty and dignity of the nation," it added.

http://tinyurl.com/avbajy
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 05:00 PM
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2. I must have missed something. Who is threatening to intercept the satellite?
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 05:06 PM
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3. Japan said they would shoot it down if it crossed their territory. nt
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 05:52 PM
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6. Thanks, wasn't aware of that.
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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 05:50 PM
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5. I think we are also watching the trajectory
We might shoot it down if it doesn't follow an orbital insertion trajectory.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 05:55 PM
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7. Japan and the U.S. are apparently concerned about something. My next question
What is the international law(if any) about rockets going into orbit? Is there some sort of regs that Iran is saying they will not abide by? If that is the case then Both Japan and the U.S. may be well within their rights to protect their respective borders/air space.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 06:07 PM
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8. By international law every country has the right to control their own airspace.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 07:50 PM
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11. Below 100 km
Airspace does not go to infinity.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 08:29 PM
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12. That is not the issue
The trajectory of launch is what is being threatened by nuclear retaliation.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 06:12 PM
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10. We were set to kill the world
if rocket payloads were aimed at the CONUS or territories.
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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:41 PM
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14. Basically if it starts going towards us instead of orbit
It is all probably much ado about nothing, but Kim has nuclear capacity and might be crazy enough. I hope nobody thought our enemies will suddenly start liking us when Obama became President.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 03:39 AM
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17. North Korea hasn't yet miniaturized their nuclear warheads to fit on a missile.
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 03:41 AM by Selatius
They tested their first bomb in 2007, I believe. I'd be surprised if they managed to perfect their designs enough that they could make it small enough to fit onto a missile in such a short period of time. They might be able to plant chemical or biological weapons onto a warhead but nothing nuclear except a primitive dirty bomb.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:27 AM
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21. They are not independently researching, they have information
from kahn or some other source. You are probably correct but Russia, China, or the US will respond to a missile in their direction with a nuclear launch. If they do not it would be a very conservative move on their part to see what is coming their way first.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 05:21 PM
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4. They probably didn't get the MOU that * and his cronies are
kind of ( I say kind of because we really don't know who's behind the curtain) gone. I'm hoping they're (Dick particularly), sweating their future.:evilgrin:
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 06:10 PM
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9. They just want to burn dont they
anything fired on a trajectory that could strike china, japan, russia, or us territory will trigger a nuclear strike by that state.

Anything coming out of there could be a nuclear weapon.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:54 PM
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15. I agree in part
I think it would absolutely be answered by an immediate and devastating response.

Do you think it would necessarily be a nuclear response? I would think that it wouldn't need to be nuclear.

I agree that anything sent by NK would be regarded as (potentially) nuclear, I would think NK could be shut down with less than a nuc strike.

I dunno. Some folks may be itchin' to play with nucs, but against NK, I would doubt it would be the only option.
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christx30 Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 05:12 AM
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18. Thanks to *,
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 05:16 AM by christx30
we don't really have much left that we can deploy quickly except a nuke. I mean... with a great deal of our forces in Iraq and elsewhere, not really much left in our arsenal except for the big guns.

Not to mention, if a nuke from NKorea hit here, or even a dirty bomb or something of the biological variety, and people died, the outcry and anger from this country would probably make the reaction from 9/11 look like a disinterested yawn.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:25 AM
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20. No there is a MASSIVE force
in N. Korea, carrier battle groups (the entire pac fleet to be exact) (plural battle groups) and the entire Air Force and naval aviation group, which is pretty much done in Iraq ready to fly 3000 sortie days.

We retain the ability to kill 300 - 900 people a second for hours with conventional strategic bombing. There are at least 2 divisions stationed on Korea now. There has been an evolving plan for 60 years on how to destroy N. Korea sitting on the presidents desk, ready to deploy.

Nuclear would not be a FIRST option. However now that they tested a nuke it will be assumed that anything leaving there is a nuclear weapon. It may breakup on its way to hawaii. Like the last missile they shot.

However Trident missiles on at least two probably 3 Ohio class subs in the area will NOT. Nor will a Russian or Chinese response to a rocket flying their way. Anything looking like a nuke will end all life in N. Korea.

It is a sad thing to even think about but any event involving the US and N. Korea would end up with the largest loss of human life since 1945, nuclear or conventional.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 12:23 PM
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23. They've tossed missiles over Japan once or twice already, I thought (nt)
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:13 PM
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13. not surprising....
....we have demonstrated to the smaller nations of the world that there are only two paths to self-determination and independence:

1) Limit your self-determination and independence to our conditions....

2) Or be able to throw nuclear weapons around....
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:29 AM
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22. We have demonstrated the willingness
to destroy the world (or large parts of it) as well. So adding these crazy fuckers to the MAD equation is not a good thing.
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Mr. Hyde Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 12:52 AM
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16. EMP that fucker and blame it on their faulty engineering. eom
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 05:40 AM
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19. I'm sure the U.S., Japan, & South Korea are trembling in their boots.
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 05:40 AM by cobalt1999
Also, it's a good marketing strategy to have your excuse already published before the launch fails.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 02:55 PM
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24. What if China "accidentally" collides a satellite with it?
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corruptmewithpower Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:36 PM
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25. Maybe President Obama will use this opportunity to test that 747 lazer
weapon boost phase missle blaster thing. The N. Koreans wouldn't even know what hit their (ICBM) satellite launcher.
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