"Tea Party" Protesters Angry Over Stimulus(4,000 Cincinnati)

[RamboLiberal]

Source: Local12.com

A group calling itself "The Cincinnati Tea Party" wants to get the word out about what it calls wasteful government spending. As part of their call, thousands of local residents took their anger to Fountain Square Sunday. Local 12's Angela Ingram was there when the square was packed with people protesting what they see as a waste of millions in taxpayer money.

Signs of outrage over the stimulus package and symbolic tea bags were all over Sunday afternoon. The message was clear-- these taxpayers feel their money is being wasted by the federal government.

Mike Wilson, Protester-"The same values we live at home: fiscal responsibility, fiscal conservatism having to compete in the free market.. We expect our government to do the same thing."

Police estimate the crowd at 4000 strong. Some say the large crowd at the tea party shows how a small group can grow and make their feelings known.



Read more: http://www.local12.com/mostpopular/story/Tea-Party-Protesters-Angry-Over-Stimulus/APT0AtMFz0KPlQEyo26n_Q.cspx

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http://www.wlwt.com/slideshow/money/18940453/detail.html

Slideshow looks like a friggin' hateful McCain/Palin rally we saw during the campaign.

Oh and several refer to that stupid "We Surround You" from Glenn Beck's new 912 cult.

B. Hussein Obama Sign. Impeach Obama. Stop Socialism. Eat the Rich, Obamunism (with Obama as Che). Honk if I'm paying your mortgage.

All white of course.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

1. These classy people attacked the media:

"Several members of the media, including Local 12's reporter, had to seek police protection when a small group of people began harassing them. Several reporters and photographers were chased, spat on, and verbally harassed. No one was arrested"

[Iliyah]

35. the KKK

WOW only 4,000, and probably not that much. Fake News, the GOP and Chuck Norris want to start an unrest. How sad. Keep ripping up the country why don't ya. The funny thing about the mortgage situation - it doesn't only help the people of color but it also helps their neighbors and secretly probably helping them.

That's very sad.

The GOP rather see this country go down than help it raise because their party comes before the American people.

[RedCloud]

84. Norris should be the first "terrorist combatant" to go.

His Bush left open the possibility. Why does Norris hate America and puts Texas first?

[county worker]

2. I hope the tea bag toting construction workers turn down jobs that the stimulus is paying for.

[maxrandb]

24. I'm betting the "construction" workers

are a bunch of College Republicans dressed up like Construction Workers, just like all the "Joe the Plumbers" that showed up with their plungers.

I'd put money on it that the "construction" workers haven't swung a hammer in their lives.

[Kittycat]

43. Or they're just like Joe the Plumber and working without a license or permit.

Just a thought.

Besides, it's Cincy - they share the boarder with KY. 'Nuff Said.

[noiretextatique]

3. where in the hell were they

when bush, inc started wasting money on the massacre in iraq?

[SemiCharmedQuark]

5. Why does it seem like the only people who post comments on boards anymore are RW loonies?

The comments on that site are just horrible.

[maxsolomon]

9. those comments

accurately reflect the opinions of many Cincinnatians.

there is a reason that there are so many ex-Cincinnatians.

[noiretextatique]

31. you have to be insane to hold extreme rw views

i believe it is a requirement. there fools are "protesting" spending that will create jobs. i am sure some of these fools will benefit from that spending. typical residents of dumbfuckistan.

[Enthusiast]

14. That was when they were fightin' for

your freedoms. And we fought them over there so we wouldn't have to fight them here. They could follow us here, don't ya know. Did you forget 9/11?



:sarcasm:

[peace13]

17. Not to be rude but ..onward Christian soldiers don't ya know?

These same folks love a good war against the brown people. Money is no object here.

[Blue_Tires]

40. +1... or when Ashcroft was pimping the Patriot Act?

[SOS]

50. Bush added $5 trillion (!) to the national debt

and suddenly these "conservatives" are concerned about deficit spending?

[maxsolomon]

4. Yee-ha! Cincinnati rides again!

This has WLW's Bill Cunningham's greasy fingers all over it. Only city in America that could turn out 4000 brain-dead conservatives. I don't remember hearing shit about Bush's deficits from these fiscal hawks. We were traitors 6 years ago, now we're communists.

My hometown always makes me proud when it comes to politics. Can't wait to visit next week!

:sarcasm:

[maxrandb]

27. I used to say

"I spent a year in Cincinnati one month".

Was stationed there while on recruiting duty with the Navy and lived in Sharonville.

Effing Cincinnati, except for some of the food, really sucked. It was the most "bassackward" place I think I've ever lived. Almost like the river didn't exist and somehow, Northern Kentucky had annexed Cincinnati.

Their Football Team SUCKS!!!!

Their Baseball Team SUCKS!!!!

Their "nightlife" SUCKS!!!!

Their radio programming really SUCKS!!!!

Their Schools SUCK!!!!

and their "effing" politics SUCKS!!!!!

Other than that...some of the food was good.

[Splinter Cell]

63. Hold your horses...

Not everybody from Cincinnati is a republican, so try to stop short of lumping us all into one big fucking group. Thanks.

Hamilton County(Cincinnati) actually went for Obama. We have a democratic mayor. Please don't piss on all of us just because 4,000 dick heads showed up. The culprits, I'm betting, are from the rural areas outside the city, which is as red as it gets politically.

BTW: Don't piss on my Bengals or Reds either if you please.

[maxrandb]

77. I'll say nice things about Cincy

when they have the sense to tar and feather Bill Cunningham and run his ass out of town on a rail.

Sorry, but if a majority of the people in Cincy support and encourage idiocy...well it really doesn't matter how many sane people are there.

Want people to stop making fun of places like Cincy, Utah, Alabama, Mississippi and Wassila? That's easy...CHANGE THEM!

[Name removed]

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[roseBudd]

88. "communist bastard"? And we aren't supposed to think you are a freeptard?

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[sarcasmo]

93. Three posts and slamming Obama after less than a 100 days, me thinks you were always a Republican.

[roseBudd]

95. Communism? I wasn't aware that the government owns the means of production

[NuttyFluffers]

72. i resent that. family & their friends from N. Kentucky are far more liberal than Cincy.

:P

and on average i hear the cities around there and below, such as Lexington and Maysville, have long been more open and neutral about goings on than some of that hot headed stuff going on in Cincinatti.

:evilgrin:

Cincinatti has only itself to blame -- and only that delicious chili atop spaghetti to comfort itself afterwards.

[maxrandb]

79. Don't forget the

Corned Beef and Potato Cakes at Izzy's

[roseBudd]

34. OMG I think a SW OH DU meetup is in order!

[Connie_Corleone]

6. None of those idiots read a single page of the stimulus bill.

They just hate Obama and can't stand the fact that he's president. Bunch of knuckledragging fools. Good old Cincinnati. The South of Ohio.

[quickesst]

44. "The South of Ohio."

...It's not the south, but lets pretend it is so we don't have to admit dumb shit like this goes on anywhere else. Nice.
quickesst

[iamthebandfanman]

57. lol

southern ohio was actually very much pro-confederacy for the most part..

i see more confederate flags flying in the southern counties of ohio than i do the northern counties of kentucky. it really says a lot.

so while not geographically in the south, they are more loyal to southern beliefs than the rest of their state.

not suprisingly, the southern counties are some of the most poverty ridden in the state

[maxrandb]

80. I didn't see 4,000 knuckledragging mouth-breathing

"We Surround You" Glenn Beck wingnuts in the square in Columbus or Cleveland.

[TheWatcher]

90. Well, Neither did Congress, but that is a separate issue.

[Politicalboi]

7. Where the fuck where

These asholes while Bush took us over a cliff?

Mike Wilson, Protester-"The same values we live at home: fiscal responsibility, fiscal conservatism having to compete in the free market.. We expect our government to do the same thing."

What an asshole this guy is. They got theirs under Bush now they want it to all stop.

[Michigan-Arizona]

28. Politicalboi

I ask that very same question to every repuke I know or meet! They never seize to amaze me on this one.

[Better Believe It]

29. Why the fuck didn't somebody organize them to protest Bush's policies in the streets?

Tell me who tried?

Did the Democratic Party organize ANY protests anywhere in the nation against Bush's economic and war policies?

[No Elephants]

82. There were some anti Iraq war demonstrations. I don't know of any against his economic policies.

[dflprincess]

8. Glad to see they stopped referring to themselves as tea bag protesters

someone must have clued them in.

[Iris]

11. too bad. n/t

[Cheap_Trick]

12. they'll always be teabaggers to me

[Epiphany4z]

32. LOL....wonder why...hmm

I just got a forward letter from a republican reletive about mailing tea bags.....thought about explaining things to her...but ehh..figure it will keep them busy while the real work is getting done.

[sabra]

10. I see that Mean Jean Schmidt was there...

[apnu]

13. OK, stupid protest, I get that but why tea?

The original tea party was to protest the taxation of tea. So these idiots throwing tea bags around are protesting what? Government waste in the tea industry? Government tea mortgages and loans?

Maybe it would have been better if they were throwing the deeds of their homes around, or copies of their mortgage payments and checking account registers. That would have been more to the point, still stupid, but at least the symbolism would have been right. But tea? It makes no sense.

What idiots.

[ElboRuum]

25. You know what they say...

People who don't know history are doomed to repeat it...
And those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it stupidly.

[Better Believe It]

30. Progressive groups should organize a smart protest!

"Maybe it would have been better if they were throwing the deeds of their homes around, or copies of their mortgage payments and checking account registers."

I agree.

So tell me what organizations are trying to do that in Cincinnati or anywhere else?

[roseBudd]

36. PM me and I will tell you what the smart progressives are doing everyday via

web 2.0

[GinaMaria]

42. Like a Coffee Break?

or a liberal elitist latte break? This could be really fun. I'll bring a French Press.

[cosmicone]

48. The tea probably signifies the right wing perverts' fondness of teabagging n/t

[DiverDave]

15. Back in the '70's or was it the 80's?

a couple of drunk, laid off auto workers were bitching that the "japs" had taken their jobs away.
So they went out and beat a Laotian immigrant to death.
The trial, with 12 of cincinnati "peers" let them off.
When the family sued in Federal court, they lost.

It seems that he ( the dead LAOTIAN) didn't have the right to live in cincinnati.

Not much has changed there, it seems.

I tried to find a link, but couldn't, maybe someone remembers this?

[Blue State Bandit]

16. We should surround one of these...

"We Surround Them" parties?

If they want to take part in organizing actions predicated on a threat; to "surround us", a flagrant attempt to foment violent sedition against the U.S. government and the vast majority of her citizenry, then a visible counter-protest against such organizations should be mounted.

Think of the optics via the media...

"Today, at a 'Tea Party' protest billed as a 'We Surround Them' rally inspired by CNBC personality Rick Santelli, and FOX pundit Glen Beck, was in turn, surrounded by citizen groups from across the tri-state area."

"Out numbered by nearly 10 to 1, the 'Tea Partiers', carrying signs critical of President Barack Obama and his policies were eventually escorted from Independence Mall in Philadelphia by local police and Park Service officers when officials fearing that the competing counter-demonstrations could take a violent turn when an effigy of the President was produced by the "Tea Partiers".

"According to police, three arrests were made at the scene, including one man arrested on weapons charges when a glock 9mm fell from his waistband as he was being escorted from the scene by police."

"'Who's surrounding who?' asked one woman who said she joined the counter-demonstration out of curiosity while on her way home from job hunting."

I am in no way advocating violence with this suggestion, and fully understand the possibility of such an event taking such a terrible turn. But it is my belief that the quickest way to mute these whack-jobs is to crowd them out.

[sasquatch]

18. Ah, the capitol of midwestern fascism is alive and well

:eyes:

[Better Believe It]

19. The right-wing has just begun organizing in the streets. So where's the "left-wing"?

Demonstrations demanding an end to foreclosures, support for EFCA, demands for more job creating stimulus, protests against any more bailouts of Wall Street crooks and banksters and in support of nationalization, etc.,?

The issues are there.

The numbers in support of these issues are there.

So where are the potential participants in new progressive mass movements?

Who is trying to call people out and organize those movements?

This is not a game.

This is serious.

That demonstration was just a little taste of what is coming from the right.

Don't just laugh it off. 4,000 people isn't a bad turnout. It's more than anything the progressive movement has organized in the streets this year.

Now will liberal and progressive groups just remain passive and paralyzed while the right begins to organize street protests?

I'm worried about this.

How about you?

[edc]

23. Yep

The future of America will be decided in the streets, not in the halls of Congress. The Reich Wing is already mobilizing its Brown Shirts.

[Hardrada]

68. Because too many people think Left organizing would eventually

imperil Israel. So they sit on their hands.

[bluestateguy]

20. Historically ignorant morons

The Boston Tea Party concerned a tax that the US colonists had no part in levying. It was taxation without representation.

Here the stimulus bill raises no taxes, and in fact cuts taxes for 95% of people, AND all these yo-yo's HAD elected representatives as part of the deliberative process in Congress. They lost, just as we sometimes lose too. That's democracy. You win sometimes, you lose sometimes. You don't have a temper tantrum every time you lose and erroneously associate yourselves with the patriots of the past.

[DumpDavisHogg]

21. I WAS THERE!!!

I stood on 5th Street and observed the right-wing crybabies.

There was no 5,000 people. I'm guessing 2,000. They couldn't even fill up Fountain Square.

I noticed the right-wing crybabies stayed at the swanky Westin Hotel across the street. I saw hordes of them leaving and entering this hotel with their signs.

They are mostly out-of-town professional agitators, by the way.

This was basically a circus act by a bunch of clowns.

[Blue_Tires]

26. thants for the insight

i thought the quoted 4,000 was optimistic...

[roseBudd]

33. Are you from Cincinnati?

me too

[DumpDavisHogg]

53. I live close enough

Supposedly, the Cincinnati rally was the biggest one they've had so far. I heard there was one in Jacksonville or somewhere that only attracted something like 20 people.

The Cincinnati one did have a few counterprotesters, by the way.

[Blue State Bandit]

37. These are the pictures we need!

If you can find pictures, or people who may have taken pictures of these "protesters" entering or exiting the Westin Hotel, get them posted and push them.

Show the world that they are nothing but hired agitators.

We need to surround one of these "We Surround Them" rallies.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3785322&mesg_id=3785393

[DumpDavisHogg]

56. There's this video...

This isn't the clearest video, but it does show them entering the Westin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJsHkoupU4Y

[Blue State Bandit]

67. Post this in Political Videos.

And link it to this thread.

[Blue State Bandit]

71. Just posted this video at DKos.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/3/17/709445/-Video-Emerges-of-Cincinnati-Tea-Party-Protesters-At-Swanky-Hotel!

Lets show the world!

[apnu]

83. Nice one! (nt)

[iamthebandfanman]

55. i didnt know it was happening

or i woulda went...


i woulda made a sign that said...

'8 years of mess and obama cant fix it in two months... impeach now!'

[Sunnyshine]

62. Many were coming/going to parking garage which is accessed from Westin lobby.

There were probably people who stayed there, but most were going to garage under Westin. Professional agitators!:rofl: I like it.

[DumpDavisHogg]

65. Someone else pointed out something interesting

The Westin garage and the Fountain Square garage are different. From what I'm told, the Westin garage is open only to Westin guests. The Fountain Square garage is open to everyone.

I don't use garages much, but I have used the Fountain Square garage before, and have never emerged in the Westin.

Remember though they redid all of this just a couple years ago.

[Blue State Bandit]

70. If you compare the video...

provide by DumpDavidHogg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJsHkoupU4Y

and the ground view of the Westin from Google Maps

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ei=wiu_SZWFH8yMtgfB0OBb&resnum=0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=westin+hotel+cincinnati&fb=1&split=1&gl=us&cid=0,0,342052370177493023&ei=xiu_SerKMo-Ntgedw4xU&sa=X&oi=local_result&resnum=1&ct=image

you can see it is the same entrance.

[roseBudd]

86. I asked the doorman today at the Westin, he says the one elevator goes to Fountain Square 2

[Sunnyshine]

92. That's right. I still think certain exits to Square depends on where you park under Fountain Sqare.

I use Fountain Square parking mostly. I parked under Westin to help staff Pres. Obama's Acceptance Speech and couple other times. They offer some public parking, but it is limited space/time. I think Fountain Garage relied on The Westin decades ago because it was the only elevator access. Like you said- they redid everything and much has changed, including putting in new elevator and Pay Hub.

[Abq_Sarah]

69. Out of town professional agitators?

If they are "pros" that ought to be easy enough to verify through pictures of the various "protests" they've had throughout the country that are posted all over the right wing blogosphere. Just look for the same faces at every event. :D

[Dollface]

22. Mr. President looked good in the Obamunism sign.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

45. He did indeed.

"Eat the rich." I wonder how many of those teabaggers earns over $250K/year? My guess would be NONE.

[Joanne98]

38. If they don't like it they can MOVE!

Love it or leave it baby! And don't forget your big wheels!

[antimatter98]

39. We need a NATIONAL Tea Party about this..why is Obama handing everyting to the banks? n/t

[GinaMaria]

41. FAKE stupid media stunt

sadly, the media just goes along and pretends it's real. This has been in the works since August and possibly earlier. There's no grass and there's no roots here.

[gratuitous]

46. Compare and contrast class

Even with the final paragraph, about how a small portion of this small crowd turned on some reporters that were covering the event, the tone of the article is respectful, as if these folks deserve consideration and coverage. Contrast with the reporting you saw protesting Chimpy and his wasteful wars of empire.

Invariably, the photos included the most outré characters, any confrontations with the police (regardless of who instigated the ruckus), and the tone of the report was “Wotta buncha nut cases!” Coverage also included disputes about the numbers, with the “official” (lower) numbers always lent more credence. Not a word in this story about whether 4,000 is a fair number, and by contrast to the protests against Chimpy, 4,000 would have been a small number for Dayton, let alone Cincinnati.

“Liberal” media my fanny.

[provis99]

47. not surprised its Cincinnati

Cincinnati is about the only midwest city that makes Indianapolis look liberal by comparison. That's really saying something.

[liam_laddie]

52. Times are a-changin' here

Cincinnati the city, about 40% of Hamilton County by population, went for Kerry in 2004 by 2-1
and for Obama by a better percentage. AND in 2008 the entire COUNTY went for Obama by several percentage points, only the fourth time in 140 years that the County went Democratic - an embarrassing fact, but the trendline is very good.
I'll wager that the majority of the crowd was 80% or more from the three "ring counties" where
dittoheads prefer to retreat to McMansions, behind gated communities, etc. Believe me, the progressive movement is alive, well and growing here.
No doubt the Enquirer and the police way overestimated the crowd size...typical of that rag.
:kick:

[Sunnyshine]

61. Yes, we are growing every day. Good organizers and Great Dem charimen that we did not have before.

:fistbump:

[roseBudd]

87. Hi Sunnyshine! I joined Drinking Liberally Cincinnati...

and i have to say it was fun

[Sunnyshine]

91. roseBudd! I do desire to go and join in the fun. I must squeeze it in the mix here somehow.

:hi:PM me if you go next time. I'm on the email list and will try to get to one in April.

[roseBudd]

94. cool PM me your email addy & I'll meet you there!

[ejpoeta]

49. i wonder how many of these folks were unemployed? how many without

health insurance?? I hope none of them end up with a pink slip soon. then they can really refuse to participate. do you think they will?

[winyanstaz]

51. So where were they when Bush spend billions bailing out the banks?

Why are these people only prostesting when the taxpayers get help? Why do they hate America?
What is wrong with these people? Did someone drop them on their head too many times as a child? They should spend all that effort in getting the banks and wallstreet to give back the money they have wasted that Bush gave them and in getting the pentagon to find the missing three trillion bucks. That three trillion would do a lot of good right now.
Where are your priorities you right wing sheeple? Are you only for the rich republicans getting help? If your not rich..then your a sucker to support this bail-out of the rich and the protesting of help for the taxpayers and the workers of America and a blight on our Nation. Go home and take you teabags with you and stop polluting our streets and our Nation.

[iamthebandfanman]

54. its so funny, people complaining about problems BUSH CREATED

and blaming obama...

8 years of mess and hes supposed to have solved it all in two months.


these people just want something to complain about.

get a job!

lol

[and-justice-for-all]

58. So what did they have to say about funding shrub Co's Wars?

oh, nothing...shocker. Spending money on warmongering is ok, but getting everyone health care is deserving of 'impeachment'?! "The Cincinnati Tea Party" and Beckians can go fuck themselves!!

Their continued display of their ignorance in regards to Socialism is tragic comedy.

[KamaAina]

59. Was Les Nessman there covering it?

[Sunnyshine]

60. Did you catch the last paragraph...reporters had to seek police protection!

At the local 12 link:

"Several members of the media, including Local 12's reporter, had to seek police protection when a small group of people began harassing them. Several reporters and photographers were chased, spat on, and verbally harassed. No one was arrested."

Hamilton County went blue for the first time since 1960's. Righty radio is rabid and want revenge.
I also saw a hand made "Tea Party" sign on my way to the store. It said NO TAXES. Go figure.

[LynnTheDem]

64. "wasteful government spending". Oh the irony.

The idiocy.

The deep abiding total ignorance.

[jzodda]

66. These are the same morons from the Sarah Palin Rally/Mob

They are back as "teabaggers"

Remember this video from the campaign showing those idiots?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E

Probably most of them were there lol

[City Lights]

73. Hypocritical simpletons.

:dunce:

[KansDem]

74. "...these taxpayers feel their money is being wasted by the federal government."

Yeah? Where were these "concerned citizens" when Bush lied us into an unnecessary war costing $720 million a day?

Fucking hypocrites! :grr:

[Anarcho-Socialist]

75. progressive protests ten times that size rarely get as much media focus

Funny that.

[raccoon]

76. In upstate SC, we had a similar "tea party" attended by mucho morans.

Where were they before the US illegally invaded Iraq? There were just a handful of protesters then.

Nooooooooo, they were cool with it as long as somebody else's kids go.

[MellowDem]

78. I work in Cincy...

though I just recently moved to live outside of the city, so I'm a newcomer to the area. Although the surrounding area is incredibly red, Cincinnati itself is blue. I bet the vast majority of these protesters were from the surrounding suburbs and rurual areas, which are pretty conservative (as they are in most places).

Seriously, those posters who are hating on Cincinnati need to chill. Lumping whole groups together is so... Republican. And it definitely doesn't help our cause in changing these places. And they are changing. That's why these conservatives are so freaked out right now.

And though I am no native of Cincinnati, I must say that I have a fondness for it. Sure, the surrounding area is conservative, but it's really no different from other cities I've lived in. It's a unique blend of East Coast, Midwestern, and Southern cultures and regional influences. Including, of course, the conservative side. But it's a unique and cool city, one that I happen to like a lot. And those who think otherwise can stuff a three way up their you know what! :P

[Sunnyshine]

96. Welcome MellowDem!

:hi: Thanks for taking the time to set em' straight. We are a unique blend of people and I rather like the easy going pace here.
Been all over the world and still think it has much to offer. This is the the place we call home. It only sucks to those who don't get it.

[fob]

81. "Police estimate the crowd at 4000 strong." Seems like an odd quote,

"4000 STRONG". IIRC, there were several events with Obama that had tens or even hundreds of thousands and the wording used made it seem like there were only a few people there. But these fucking yahoos get "4000 strong"?

Based on some eyewitness reports elsewhere in this thread, "2000 STUPID" is more accurate.