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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:08 AM
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Dollar slides after US Fed plan
Source: BBC News

The dollar has fallen against all major currencies after the US Federal Reserve announced a plan to buy $1.2tn (£843bn) of debt to boost its economy.

The dollar fell by 2.9% against the euro and by 2.5% against the pound.

The US currency also declined against the yen, the Norwegian krone, the Australian dollar and Brazilian real.

The Fed's decision to buy debt means it is effectively creating new money, leading to concern from investors about the over-supply of dollars.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7952319.stm
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:14 AM
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1. I don't understand why they are doing this
Default on the debt, and give those dollars to the poorest in our land--they will immediately spend the money, which will increase demand for goods/services, which will help the economy.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:41 AM
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2. made it back from Italy just in time n/t
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:56 AM
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4. I am in England/Europe till June
God help me :( x(
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:14 AM
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7. good luck
was in UK 3 yrs ago and paid $17 US dollars for hamburger and Burger King....don't even get me started about Starbucks. ;-(
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 07:04 PM
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10. Holy Shit
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 07:05 PM by Sultana
:wow:

Note to self, next time travel or stay in a country that has a weaker currency. ;)

I miss America and its inexpensive stuff :cry:
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 07:09 PM
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11. son went to school in UK for a year
and lived off cans of soup. Was sick all the time...don't let that happen to you!
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 07:16 PM
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12. I cook my own meals from scratch (sometimes)
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 07:42 PM by Sultana
I just hate that I can't spend like I use to in the US on clothes and random things x(

Dammit, I rather not think about the exchange rate.

What school is/did he attend?
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:06 AM
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21. was shocked getting bar tab
after 10 days in hotel lol

son was in Egham at Royal Holloway for masters...he thought it was over rated. Where are you?
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 05:18 PM
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25. Uni of Portsmouth
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 11:21 AM
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27. what a great place!
especially to summer! Enjoy it all and travel! ;-)
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:52 AM
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3. This is revolutionary.
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 08:56 AM by denem
$1.2 trillion in spending that is financed neither by taxation or by deficit (debt): IE - no cost to the taxpayer. The argument against it is the "Integrity of the currency" (inflation) which is not only NOT an issue here, but conveniently overlooks the fact that private institutions create credit (money) all the time.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:01 AM
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5. They've been printing the fiat money
for years undeclared. Hence why they stopped publishing M3 figures. The difference this time is that they've declared it.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:09 AM
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6. 1.2 Trillion? - announced to the market as a spending program?.
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 09:09 AM by denem
It breaks the nexus. TARP 1 - go to congress to ask for $750 billion. "TARP" II - print the money. It's a critical president.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:26 AM
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8. Would that money be from the SS surplus?
There was about $2T in it before this entire mess started, do we kiss that goodbye?
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:33 AM
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9. No. It's 'new' money, straight from the Fed.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 07:23 PM
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13. A declining dollar is good for domestic industry.
It makes things more expensive to import and more profitable to export. One of the reason China is sucking up our jobs is that they manipulate their currency to keep in from rising in value.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 07:25 PM
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14. If the economy ever recovers, inflation is going to be a major problem.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 07:30 PM
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15. Why? This is just brain washing.
Oil and commodity prices, yes. But why should Fed created money be more inflationary that the credit (read money) created by private financial institutions all the time. Every bank loan creates money.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:25 PM
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16. More dollars = less value for those dollars. Only the Fed can create
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 08:28 PM by neverforget
money out of thin air. The US government has to borrow the money by issuing bonds.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:30 PM
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17. If you think that only M1 or M2 is money, google is your friend.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:31 PM
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18. So is the M3 which isn't printed anymore. I wonder why?
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:54 PM
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26. If you underdstand M3, you should understand why
"Only the Fed can create can create money out of thin air" is brain dead.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 02:14 PM
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28. Did I do something to you? Your posts are very condescending.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:31 PM
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19. Gold/precious metals funds are up about 10% in the last two days
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:16 AM
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23. after tanking earlier in week
so volatile.. gold mine rep says he has never seen anything like this in history
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:31 PM
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20. Loonie jumps higher
A falling U.S. dollar and surging crude oil prices pushed the Canadian dollar up more than 1.5 cents to 81.79 cents (U.S.) in early trading Thursday, with the currency settling back to 80.80 cents by the end of the trading day.

“We are seeing the U.S. dollar continue to reel against almost every major currency in the wake of the very aggressive action by the Federal Reserve Board yesterday, and it's also spilling into a number of commodity prices,” Bank of Montreal economist Doug Porter said in an interview.

“For instance, we have seen oil far higher yet again today, pushing up to $52 a barrel,” he said.

“Both these things are like catnip … for the Canadian dollar.”

http://business.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090319.wloonie0319/BNStory/Business/home
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:12 AM
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22. I wouldn't call it reeling
One year ago the Canadian dollar was even with the U.S. dollar. Now, after the "reeling dollar" the Loonie is worth .82 US dollars.

The US dollar shot up in value in the last 6 months and the Fed needed it to come down some.

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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 05:09 PM
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24. yes yes yes. AWESOME!!!
as i said a few days ago, i am short the dollar and long the euro.

imo, it was a great shorting opp, the false dollar rally!!!!

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