Police identify 200 children as potential terrorists

[tomm2thumbs]

Source: The Independent UK


The scheme, funded by the Home Office, involves officers working alongside Muslim communities to identify impressionable children who are at risk of radicalisation or who have shown an interest in extremist material – on the internet or in books.

Once identified the children are subject to a "programme of intervention tailored to the needs of the individual". Sir Norman said this could involve discussions with family, outreach workers or the local imam, but he added that "a handful have had intervention directly by the police".

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A Home Office spokesman said: "We are committed to stopping people becoming or supporting terrorists or violent extremists. The aim of the Channel project is to directly support vulnerable people by providing supportive interventions when families, communities and networks raise concerns about their behaviour."

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-identify-200-children-as-potential-terrorists-1656027.html

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Hmmmm...

I guess the tell-tale signs are reading Suess's "You Say IOU, I Say IUD..."

[pleah]

1. This just is so wrong to me. n/t

[Arctic Dave]

2. Blame the kids for the countries problems. Yeah.

I guess stop killing people for imperialism never entered discussion.

[bobburgster]

9. Pretty Scary!

I have to say the whole thought of such a program is scary as hell. "Experts" diagnosing possible radical/terrorist behavior, or thoughts, in the young....Ugh!.... Do we ship them off to a reprogramming camp next?

[kestrel91316]

23. Why bother with reprogramming when you can just arrest them and

lock them up forever without a trial?

[Rage for Order]

3. How long before the US follows suit?

The UK is on the cutting edge of invasive government programs that seek to monitor every citizen's every move at all times, and the citizenry hardly makes a peep about it. Cameras on every street pole, children's terrorism intervention programs, recording every phone call, text message, and email in the country...is there any line that the British government won't cross?

[LynnTheDem]

4. We woulda caught Timothy McVeigh before his terrorism! Oh wait...

he wasn't Muslin.

:eyes:


Fucking hell this is such total bullshit.

[vadawg]

11. no idea why the brits would be looking for mcveigh, oh you are beig sarcastic

This is actually a rehash of an older technique that was used to try to intervene with the radicalisation of young irish descent males, i dont see any problem with the security services recognizing that the imams are reaching out to the youth and trying to stop this indoctrination.

[dipsydoodle]

12. In the example you've used

of "young irish descent males" - well that failed pretty miserably given that most IRA bombers were youngsters.

It's today's children who will provide blowback in the future and why issues as a result of current and recent action in the Middle East and Afghanistan are likely to persist beyond 2030.

[vadawg]

13. sorry but you have no idea of the work that was done to intercede

with the large irish communities in the west of scotland, liverpool, london etc, the intel gathering, covert ops to gather info on who were susceptible to recruitment. I love how people who did nothing but support terrorism for years until 911 suddenly think that they have all the answers and the rest of the world is ignorant in dealing with homegrown terror.

[dipsydoodle]

14. Given that

the IRA were largely supported by donations from the USA that makes the USA itself the largest supporters of terror pre 9/11. The IRA were only declared to be a terrorist organistion by the USA post 9/11.

[vadawg]

15. i think you will find thats what i just said, every bullet fired at me was bought by US donations

was the feeling that all the pongos serving in bandit country had.

[tuckessee]

18. Did you kill many Irish people? n/t

[BartMang]

5. Are you kidding me?

This is just pathetic now. You know its funny, the post 9/11 world has alot of potential to be like the world in Fahrenheit 451.
I fear for the future.

[gtar100]

6. Typical American strategy - deal with the symptoms, ignore the cause

Why don't we figure out a way to stop killing their family members and maybe, just maybe, they won't be so radical.

[EFerrari]

8. The article is about Engliand.

[cali]

10. Except, genius. It's not American. It's English. As in Great Britain.

now try and wriggle your way out of commenting without reading. I'm sure you'll find a way.

And sorry folks, though this is not the way to deal with it, the problem isn't all evil imperialist western pigs and innocent, noble minorities. It's just a tad more complex than that.

[Deja Q]

17. Agreed, on all counts.

[Chulanowa]

19. No, in this case the root cause is poverty

Just as it always has been.

It's a lot simpler than you think, really, but I suppose it's just more comforting to think that the reasons behind this sort of thing are complex, baffling, and hard to solve

[cali]

20. no, it's not all about poverty

that's simply not true. poverty is one element- and an important one, but hardly the only one. pretending there aren't cultural disparities at odds that often have zip all to do with poverty, is just absurd.

[Chulanowa]

27. Absurd to you, maybe

But then you're arguing against a statement I never made.

I said poverty is the root issue. That is, without it, you couldn't have all those other issues that you, and so many others chatter about. No, it's not the only issue, but it is the origin of all the other issues, and it's something our society loves keeping in place (so long as it's a "them" that's eating mud cakes)

[ohio2007]

31. absurd ...like doctors bombing an airport ?

2007 Glasgow International Airport attack




.......
Both of the car occupants were apprehended at the scene, and all those injured were taken to the Royal Alexandra Hospital in nearby Paisley.<1><2><6><7> Within three days, Scotland Yard had confirmed that eight people had been taken into custody in connection with this incident and that in London.<1><8><9><10>

Police identified the two men as Bilal Abdullah, a British-born, Muslim doctor of Iraqi descent working at the Royal Alexandra Hospital,<11><12> and Kafeel Ahmed, also known as Khalid Ahmed, the driver, who was treated for severe burns at the same hospital.<13> The newspaper, The Australian, alleges that a suicide note indicated that the two had intended to die in the attack.<14> Ahmed did eventually die of his injuries, on 2 August.<15> Bilal Abdullah was later found guilty of conspiracy to commit murder and was sentenced to 32 years in prison.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Glasgow_International_Airport_attack

Wonder if the good doctor is preaching to a captive audience ?

[davidinalameda]

21. you are one of the few voices of reason on this board

:toast: :loveya:

[cali]

24. why thank you, david.

that is really nice to hear. And appreciated.

:hi:

[davidinalameda]

32. you're very welcome

[ohio2007]

30. LOL

[SemperEadem]

7. (sarcasm) so is that they way they converted their country

from Catholic to Protestant? (/sarcasm)

[Deja Q]

16. IUD? Condoms are cheaper and safer...

[The abyss]

22. George Orwell & Philip K. Dick appear to be doing well with the UK government.

How do they fair with the “pols”?

[Shanti Mama]

25. Did anyone read the article?

I listen to the BBC every day. Muslim children in the UK are being groomed to be terrorists. The local Muslim communities acknowledge it. The government is working with the families, communities, mosques, etc.

Get a grip, folks. Extremism, of any kind, is dangerous. In this particular situation is VERY dangerous.

[The abyss]

26. I read the article.

I stand behind my thought, police state PR, nothing more.

[silverojo]

28. The bad thing is, innocent children ARE brainwashed like this

Look at what Fundie "Christian camps" do to kids....

Plus, no child decides to become a suicide bomber. It's adults who brainwash them into thinking it's an honorable thing to do. Even if the child acts out the adults' wishes, the kids are still very much the victims of insane religious fanatics.

I'm NOT saying the police should handle interventions, but the police/governments should help these kids find the help they need from qualified child psychologists.

Personally, I'd love to see Fundie kids get help to undo the damage done by "Jesus camps". That shit is just too scary for words.

[ohio2007]

29. Bangladeshi police investigating a madrassa established by a British charity (weapons uncovered.)

Xtian fundies have a 'turn the other cheek' mentality.


the islamist fundies have their own special verses they follow and preech
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3803214&mesg_id=3805633

'We are very afraid after this'
Bangladeshi police are investigating a madrassa (or Islamic theological school) established by a British charity where a cache of weapons was uncovered.


snip

And a villager known as Sohidul explained: "They said there would be an orphanage, a madrassa and a hospital - we were very happy."

No-one ever suspected militant activity at the complex.

Assistant Superintendent of police H M Azimul Haque is leading the investigation team.

snip

Nitul Dey, a businessman I met on the ferry, said: "I no longer feel safe as they can throw a bomb in a busy marketplace full of innocent people, now safety has become a major concern for many of us.


"I do not understand why these educated people are doing these things when they are living relatively better than us."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7969558.stm

Old English lady goes nuclear on a Pakistani

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=141_1238216182

We can laugh off any real threats or whistle past the graveyard
jmo