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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:09 PM
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Report: Hizbullah, Mexican drug cartels working together
Source: YNN

American officials say ties between Shiite organization, Mexican drug lords for trafficking of drugs, money, people into US strengthening over recent year. One official voice concern that al-Qaeda may use same routes Ties between Lebanon's Shiite Hizbullah organization and Mexican drug cartels have been strengthening over the past few years, the Washington Times reported Friday.



Hizbullah relies on "the same criminal weapons smugglers, document traffickers and transportation experts as the drug cartels," said Michael Braun, former administrator and chief of operations at the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA). "They work together," added Braun, "They rely on the same shadow facilitators. One way or another, they are all connected. They'll leverage those relationships to their benefit, to smuggle contraband and humans into the US; in fact, they already are (smuggling)."



A number of American security officials, counterterrorism experts and drug trade law enforcement officials agreed with Braun's comments and said Hizbullah's use of the Mexican drug routes continued to increase with time.

Read more: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3693129,00.html



OMG
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:11 PM
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1. ynet warmongers stirring up shit
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:14 PM
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2. Michael Braun? n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:40 PM
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11. Yep, there they go again!
These people won't rest until someone bombs Iran. Of course, they don't care if American soldiers in Iraq are put in harm's way by such foolishness as bombing Iran.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:15 PM
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3. Please. Another 'valid' source? nt
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 12:02 AM
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20. Looks like UPI is the original source
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 12:58 AM
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23. upi is owned by...reverand moon...who owns the washinton times
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 10:27 AM
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32. and washington wants to keep the print media from going extinct
let them die
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:19 PM
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4. LOL
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:19 PM
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5. "the Washington Times reported Friday"
Edited on Sat Mar-28-09 11:21 PM by Alamuti Lotus
Anyone stupid enough to take this seriously based on such fine characters (Washington Times, the Zionist tabloid YNet, former Bush flunkies) deserves ridicule. I'm sure many here will take the bait, for many are already supporting the wars that the author of such stupid messages have in mind.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:47 PM
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15. Huffpo is linking to the article, too. The source is always the same article.
That said, someone is hauling that shit out of the 'Stan. The routes for hashish went from Afghanistan through Iran, Turkey, Syria, to Lebanon and across the sea. It could be the same basic route. Probably is....
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 12:21 PM
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34. link? searched Huffpost but didn't see it.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:43 AM
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43. Right here--with a picture, too.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:20 PM
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6. lies n/t
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Summermoondancer Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:24 PM
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7. Bull!
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:30 PM
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8. This is like the six degrees of Kevin Bacon
with the US and our allies trying to tie everything to Al Qaeda.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:35 PM
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9. BushCo has been doing that for years now, trying to tie
Venezuela, Bolivia and Ecuador to Al Qaida via Iran. It's would be hysterical if so many people didn't buy in so easily.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:39 PM
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10. The Axis of Evil is not a laughing matter, E!
:rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:42 PM
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13. Maybe the asses of evil but some of the little burritos of evil are still hanging out
in the Pentagon and at CIA. lol
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:50 PM
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17. The CIA needs to be abolished, they have done more harm than good.
We have a well-developed intelligence apparatus within the frame work of the FBI and clandestine agencies-- we don't need an organization specifically set up to instigate coups, undermine elected governments, and torture whomever they suspect to be a terrorist.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:54 PM
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18. There are several Masters projects from the Monterey
Edited on Sat Mar-28-09 11:55 PM by PufPuf23
Post Grad Military College that address Hezbollah in South America and Venezuela.

IMHO they are inhouse propoganda by ignorants wanting to climb the military career ladder.

So much propoganda and yes now these countries in South America have much in common but have a common aggressive foe -- USA MIC -- in commmon with Iran. Has much to do with energy resources or else our Pentagon and corporate strategic planners would not be involved to the degree of propoganda.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 12:04 AM
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21. Yeah, who is going to reject the thesis that, against all reason,
Hezbollah and not our own clandestine services are organizing guns and drugs out of Latin America? No faculty member that wants to keep his job.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 09:13 AM
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27. Monterrey, probably *the* most
conservative city in Mexico.
Guadalajara is conservative, but in a religious sense.

:eyes:
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 02:31 AM
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26. Beat me to it
but then again ther are still some folks out there that would say Hezbollah Al Qaida whats the difference?
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:42 PM
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12. Sounds like they've taken a page from the Reagan/Bush/CIA
Edited on Sat Mar-28-09 11:43 PM by NBachers
Drug Lines Playbook

Remember when the "Sandinistas" were flooding the country with drugs and terror?

Well, if it's happening, it should be paid attention to. I'd like to see a little more reliable info.



Operation 40

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Seal
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:44 PM
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14. The only thing Hezbollah, Mexican drug cartels and Al Qaida have in common
Edited on Sat Mar-28-09 11:46 PM by EFerrari
is CIA. lol

/ack
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:47 PM
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16. This is BS
The same sort say there is Hezbollah in South America but tie drugs/money laundrying/arms trade to Lebanese Christians relocated to Latin America not Shites.

This Mexico drug civil revolution is hinky to me.

First thing is that any policy should clearly differentiate between marijuana and cocaine or opiates or or meth.

I live in CA and have not seen nor would be willing to partake of mexican pot since the 80s. Aside from powdered cocaine that is not part of my life, the domestic pot smokers and hard drug users had little overlap or even in common.

The War on Drugs is being used as a cover for military and intelligence operations and to favor rw wing global corporate oriented regimes in South and Latin America.

We have a real void of realistic info from our near neighbors alas. I like borev.net.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:57 PM
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19. On a different topic: Thanks for the website!
Edited on Sat Mar-28-09 11:57 PM by Idealism
I've never heard of it before, but I think I will like the site if this is any indication:

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Summermoondancer Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:47 AM
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44. There are more Muslims in the US than there are in Latin America
there are very few Muslims in Latin America and when they are here they stick out like a sore thumb...they tend not to like countries where the state religion is Catholicism. You are much more likely to find Hezbollah in your own backyard in the US than here. Drug cartels here don´t like sharing the wealth.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 12:53 AM
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22.  i thought i smelled dog crap on my shoes
but someone posted an article that was sourced from the washington times...
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Proletariatprincess Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 01:34 AM
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24. remember the contempt the right showed for those of us who said
that 911 was a crime not a war? Now they tell us that "terrorists" (what ever today's diffinition of that term is) are involved in criminal activity...which can only mean drugs and trafficking. Ha. Sounds like more hypocracy and war mongering from the right.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 02:06 AM
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25. I think most of America knows by now who are the real American drug lords..
They are the same "terrorists" that did 9-11, Oklahoma City, Ruby Ridge, the rape of our economy, and told the lies that led to illegal wars for oil.
They are the same damn ones that were stuffing body bags of dead U.S. solders with drugs in Vietnam, protecting the poppy fields now in Afghanistan, murdering civilians in South America and killing other nations duly elected leaders.
They are the same ones on our main stream media making up crap to scare Americans with on the news every night.
They have overplayed Al Ciada to death and now we are to believe that Shiites flew over here on their camels and Mexicans drug lords are now in league together on our borders? Sheesh! I call bullshit~!
Why would a Mexican drug lord share anything with a Shiite?
Excuse me while I struggle not to laugh out loud in their faces.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 09:21 AM
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28. BULLSHIT PROPAGHANDA
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 09:43 AM
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29. Remember this one - when the US started building bases in Paraguay they
Edited on Sun Mar-29-09 09:46 AM by peacetalksforall
said it was for the terrorists crossing borders there. Who lives in Paraguay? Rev Moon - Washington Times.

It looks like we have a new President and Dems leading the House, but those who lie for their agenda appear to be firmly entrenched in departments of government. They are still using the media to work their agenda and it's a certain group in Israel again? Is this still about bombing Iran? Or is the usual - thriving on un-peace, profit, control, fear, lies?

Notice this - during the last eight years there has been a campaign of hate generation against Mexicans and Moslems. Now 'they?' are doubling up on their campaign by combining Moslems and Mexicans?

It makes me question every piece of news coming out about Mexico.

It devestates my hope because the same crap is going on.

Coming in back doors?

It can't be, can it?

Combine the bigotry against Latinos in this nation with the lies about drugs to cover up weapons and contraband to prepare our nation to give corporations and governments more of our kids?

Is this being done as a sub-governments or this administration? It's only fair to ask because we are the last to know or is this administration being taken to the cleaners?

Oil, water, drugs, weapons, and all of the earth resources. We are screwed. A CIA that works for corporations. A media that works for corporations. Corporations of sub-governments. And the unbelievable inroads of Israel-zionist and religious influence in this country.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 09:52 AM
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30. This has got to be the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard!!! Cheney, you naughty
little villan. Trying to set up another mihop, are ya now.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 10:16 AM
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31. why would 'the party of god' want to work hand in hand with infidel drug lords?
things that make you go

hmmmmm
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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 12:22 PM
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35. Ya think they may have a common interest/enemy?
hmmmmmm
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 12:26 PM
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36. What you got here is Rev. Moon's UPI and Washington Times up to no good
It won't be Rev. Moon's minions that will be put in harm's way if Iran is bombed by the judeofascists in Jerusalem, it will be American troops in Iraq.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 12:38 PM
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37. The US drug addicts?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 11:04 AM
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33. Oh look, more total BULLSHIT.
:eyes:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 03:39 PM
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38. This is one of those articles that tells you what the Bush Cartel is REALLY doing.
You just have to read the info backwards. Whatever they say the drug cartels and/or Shias are doing, it is actually the Bush Cartel that is doing it. I've been suspicious of this Mexico "drug war" from the beginning. It was preceded by a Pentagon story about a month ago that said that their new mission in Afghanistan is to eradicate the poppy fields. I spilled my coffee on that one. Then the stories started pouring in about all the carnage in Mexico's "drug war," but who knows who is being killed, really? I suspect that this "war" is being used to eliminate Bush Cartel drug trade rivals and consolidate and protect routes out of Colombia, on the possibility that the Obama administration might start doing a more honest "war on drugs." I think what we're seeing is the war profiteers/police state trying to justify sucking up more and more billions of our tax dollars, combined with a coverup of Bushwhack profiteering off both the "war on drugs" and the drugs.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 04:10 PM
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39. That's right! I'm listening to the propagandist Mike Rowan right now
claim that Chavez is mediating a partnership between FARC AND HEZZBOLLAH AND IRAN! LOL! They're going to kidnap Jews living in Venezuela! They have a list of victims THAT CHAVEZ STOLE OUT OF THAT SYNAGOGUE!

omfg
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 05:51 PM
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40. There is another possibility: another cycle for the corporate economic greed
Edited on Sun Mar-29-09 05:53 PM by AlphaCentauri
By 1970 Mexico was self-sufficient in the production of food and other goods, from 1970 to 1981 they adopted the economic model of import substitution, Mexico would export oil and import food witch let the nations debt growth out of control paying very high interest rates.
In 1982 under the guidelines of the IMF Mexico adopted the neo-liberal economic model with massive privatizations of state owned industries, roads, airlines and banks.
In 1994 Mexico closed it's borders to Chinese imports to enact NAFTA witch will destroy Mexico's agricultural production unable to compete with cheap US imports.

Mexico is under big pressure to privatize it's Oil industry and that could be related to the war on drugs if Mexico falling economy grows its debt, then there will be another cycle of privatizations and PEMEX could be part of Exxon-Mobil or any other multinational.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:22 AM
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42. I agree, oil was the reason for the stolen Mexico prez election in 05, AND the
main reason for the nazification of the Mexican society with billions of US dollars for the corrupt, failed, murderous US "war on drugs." The Bushwhack agenda for rightwing President Felipe Calderon was to privatize Mexico's constitutionally protected oil resource and industry, which now belongs to the public. He has had a hard time paying this debt to the Bushwhacks for helping him steal the election (which leftist Lopez-Obrador 'lost' by only 0.05%, in midnight electronic tally shenanigans). Privatization of the oil is extremely unpopular in Mexico. I think the lard poured into Mexico's security forces is primarily to suppress mass protests against the privatization of the oil (and other corpo/neoliberal economic horrors). But along with what we can see, there is another reality--another economy, another society--that we can't see: Bushwhack drugs/weapons profiteering. It's like the visible war on Iraq vs the invisible torture, massive looting by contractors, deliberate creation of chaos, and other horrors of Rumsfeld's war. Two realities. The visible one is bad enough. But the invisible one is extremely difficult to remedy, and underpins the visible corruption.
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Dramarama Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 06:16 PM
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41. LMAO
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