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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:33 PM
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Alaska Republicans call for new Senate election
Source: Associated Press

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — The Alaska Republican Party is calling for the resignation of U.S. Sen. Mark Begich after the Justice Department dropped charges against the incumbent he defeated last fall, Ted Stevens.

Party officials say Begich, a Democrat, should resign to allow for a special election so Alaskans can vote for a senator without the improper influence of the "corrupt" Justice Department.

...

The state GOP party says the only reason Begich won is because a few thousand Alaskans thought that Stevens was guilty of seven felonies. Stevens was charged with failing to disclose gifts and home renovations.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5giw_d3ifmIHJza3Hv5dJ8cuOv_LAD97AHMVO0



My comment: Hey, I'll give you back that election if you give me back the years 2001-2008.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:34 PM
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1. I want some of what they are smoking
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:15 AM
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33. I want to know If "Wonder Wallet" Stevens will run again in 2014 ?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:34 AM
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34. walk perhaps . . . what will he be, 87?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:59 AM
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48. Born in 1923 He'd be 91
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 11:02 AM by saigon68
Hell Robert Bird (Sheets) is 91 and counting

And his Pal Strom Thurmond is the only US Senator to reach the age of 100 while still in office.

Another fossil of a bye gone era

In 1948, after President Harry S. Truman desegregated the U.S. Army and proposed the creation of a permanent Fair Employment Practices Commission, Thurmond became a candidate for President of the United States on the third party ticket of the Dixiecrat Party, which split from the national Democrats over the proposed constitutional innovation involved in federal intervention in segregation. Thurmond carried four states and received 39 electoral votes. One 1948 speech, met with cheers by supporters, included the following:Strom Thurmond 1948 Speech
“ I wanna tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that there's not enough troops in the army to force the Southern people to break down segregation and admit the nigger race into our theaters, into our swimming pools, into our homes, and into our churches."

Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond
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Steerpike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:13 AM
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37. Alaska Repulicans are not stupid
They are smart and aggressive. This move by the Attorney General to void the conviction and then not re-try is a stab at the heart of Alaska Democrats.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:20 AM
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41. do they actually believe they can get what they are asking for?
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Steerpike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:27 AM
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43. No that is not the point.
They just need to get enough people to believe so that they can turn the next election and interefere with Begich's senate run. This is pure politics...and Obama's Attorney General is handing them Alaska on a Silver Platter.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:34 PM
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2. They are so insane.
Stevems was not let off the hook because he was suddenly found innocent. He was let off the hook because some prosecutors on the case are assholes.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:35 PM
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3. Gotta give them credit
all the effort the pukes are putting into keepin Al Franken out of his seat and they come up with this assinie idiocy. The 6 months without sun every year must shrink brains or something.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:40 PM
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4. How'd he pay for that stuff, again?
:think:
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:40 PM
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5. Why were Mr. Stevens charges dropped?
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FudaFuda Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:10 PM
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14. what I read ..
there was a sexual affair between an FBI agent and a prosecution witness that was not disclosed, and there was exculpatory evidence (i.e. evidence indicating innocence) that was not shared with the defense, and prosecutors denied its existence to the judge. All considerable prosecutorial misconduct, actually, which is why Holder made the right decision.
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aggiesal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 06:31 PM
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25. And all this was done under the Bush DOJ, ...
yet no doubt, Obama will be blamed for the corrupt DOJ.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:27 AM
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44. The wrong decision was to not re-try Stevens

Stevens was guilty, he even admitted to it in a taped phone conversation.

And jurors who were asked said they still would have convicted him because of how overwhelming the evidence was.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:47 PM
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6. What if Begich wins by an even bigger margin than last time?
Do we get the Governor's seat as well in the bargain?
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:48 PM
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7. improper influence of the "corrupt" Justice Department; the BUSH Justice Department
ask these fools who's Justice Department that was under and who they supported in 2000 and 2004
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:48 PM
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8. LOL
Do over!!!

:rofl:
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:55 PM
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10. The Republicans are NUTS!
LOL! They want a do over!
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:54 PM
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9. Just like that, huh? They forget the 8 years of Hell we just endured.
Good luck with that fantasy, you morans.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:56 PM
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11. He. Was. Guilty.
Now he's gotten away with it. That should enrage them even more.
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:24 PM
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16. Exactly...Just because prosecutors might have fucked things up,
doesn't take away the fact he WAS GUILTY of the crimes charged...

Prosecutors botched the OJ Simpson case to, doesn't mean OJ wasn't guilty.....

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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:00 PM
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12. Seriously. Is there ANYONE left in the GOP that isn't insane? n/t
nt
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:01 PM
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13. So they can rig it to Ted Tubes Stevens?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:19 PM
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15. Stevens has not been found innocent, he has had a conviction tossed.
Now, when are they going to demand that Siegelman be released and named governor of Alabama?
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:38 PM
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17. Just Fuck 'em... They're republicans... n/t
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politicallore Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 08:33 PM
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29. lol
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:40 PM
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18. Shark-jumping extraordinaires
That's what these folks are. Since that election was not even a special election but a REGULAR one that Stevens lost, they now want a do-over? How about we do-over McConnell's election?! In fact, why not do-over Lindsey Graham's while we're at it?!

They are truly having nervous breakdowns! :crazy: :rofl:
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Swede Atlanta Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:54 PM
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19. Not a chance..........
These Repukkkes must be smoking moose dung. The election is over and the Senator is seated. If the Rethuglican machine had wanted Stevens' prosecution to end they could have. They could have simply fired the U.S. Attorney that was responsible for the case or tell the prosecutors to drop the case. They may have been afraid to do that given the noise that had been made about the firing of the U.S. Attorneys for apparent political reasons.

Alaskans are much better off having a young vibrant rational person representing them than that ideologically driven fossil anyway.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:58 PM
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20. Erp. It doesn't work that way you friggin crybabies. Get the fuck over it.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:00 PM
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21. nevermind(convicted a week before election)
Edited on Thu Apr-02-09 05:07 PM by iamthebandfanman
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 05:25 PM
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22. It was the corrupt BUSH Justice system that indicted Stevens AND botched the case..
... by "accident."

Conveniently.

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 06:03 PM
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23. the friggin ingrates
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 06:20 PM
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24. The corrupt * justice dept...
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ShareTheWoods Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 06:43 PM
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26. What would we do with a foot in the shoe?
Let's say our Democratic incumbent Senator narrowly lost due to a bungled indictment against her.

Would we entertain another election?
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:17 AM
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38. Sigh
No because that wouldn't be constitutional. If a Senator steps down, the governor of that state decides who sits as Senator until the next election. I have no desire to be like the pukes who shit on the constitution when it suits them.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 06:45 PM
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27. Stevens admitted on tape what he was doing was illegal

"You got to get a tough mental attitude," the six-term Republican lawmaker said in a telephone conversation with oilman Bill J. Allen recorded by the FBI. "These people can't shoot us. This isn't Iraq."

"Hell, the worst that could happen is that we run up a bunch of legal fees ... pay a fine, spend a little time in jail," Stevens added. "I hope ... it doesn't come to that."
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 07:29 PM
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28. I understand Ted has some "friends"
Who are willing pay for the election... as long as he wins that is...
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 08:41 PM
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30. Irony bites when it has a grip on your own arse.
Sen. Stevens lost the race because he accepts illegal gifts and lied on ethics reports.
His prosecution was sandbagged because of improper behavior by the Bush Justice Dept.,
specifically not revealing FBI was having sex with a witness it seems!

So Republican improper behavior triggers the Republican reaction?
That irony is a lot like complaining about biting yourself.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 09:57 PM
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31. Too funny! Under REPUBLICAN direction the DOJ was indeed corrupt.
:wow: Uuuuuuuuuuuh I guess they forgot THAT part. Now the Republicans want to corrupt Alaska's election process. :banghead: Ted lost fair and square.
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bobburgster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:36 AM
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32. As much as I dislike Stevens and...
like minded republicans, I detest the prosecutors for not building a case against him honestly. That is UN-American.
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regina1901 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:58 AM
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35. Sorry but the lead prosecutor at least was a Clinton appointee
The lead prosecutor in this case was in fact a Clinton appointee and is NOT a repub. We should ALL make sure our facts are straight before we start throwing around labels and declaring this or that person/party responsbile etc. There's enough of THAT going on already isn't there?
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:19 AM
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39. It was the corrupt chimp DOJ
that bungled the prosecution ON PURPOSE.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:33 AM
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46. Sorry, but you're WRONG
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 10:34 AM by Tempest
http://www.law.georgetown.edu/faculty/facinfo/tab_faculty.cfm?Status=Faculty&ID=1997

Brenda Morris joined the Public Integrity Section, Criminal Division, U.S. Department of Justice in September 1991. After working for twelve years as a Trial Attorney with the Public Integrity Section, she was promoted in March 2004 to Deputy Chief for Litigation. In August 2006, Professor Morris was promoted to the position of Principal Deputy Chief.



we should ALL make sure our facts are straight before we start throwing around labels and declaring this or that person/party responsbile

You should take your own advice.
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Steerpike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:10 AM
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36. Well let me just say...
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 10:11 AM by Steerpike
can't the new Justice Department find it in themselves to prosecute anyone? This is just the set of circumstances that the Alaska Republicans needs to obfuscate and interfere with Senator Begich's run as Senator. I wish President Obama would order his Attorney General and the Justice
Department to begin vigorous prosecution of corrupt politicians and war criminals. The Republicans are now saying that Senator Stevens was innocent and was railroaded by a Clinton Justice Department. The new Attorney General is not doing the Democrats any favors.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:20 AM
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40. A Clinton justice department?
Do we really have to consider people who are too stupid to breath?
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Steerpike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:25 AM
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42. if you underestimate these "stupid" people they will bury you...
These people may not believe what they say...they just need to convince a small amount of hardcore repugs to beleive. And then they can interfere with the new Democratic Senator Begich. By the time six years is up they will have set up Begich for defeat, becouse everyone will believe the meme they will have set up...all stemming from Obama's Attorney General deciding not to re-try Stevens. No good deed is left unpunished. This is hardball politics with the big boys.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:29 AM
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45. And Begich is a big boy
Let him fight back and let the people of Alaska (who voted in caribou barbie so my respect level for them is down in the sewer) decide this. Begich should not step down and barbie is just hoping he does so she can seat his replacement (her call for a special election is nonsense and unconstitutional).
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Steerpike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:43 AM
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47. But why make his life that much more difficult...
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 10:44 AM by Steerpike
When I'm swimming in the ocean it does not make me feel good to see someone from the boat chumming the water.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:42 AM
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51. Like you pointed out
This is hardball politics. Does it suck - yes, most definitely.
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Steerpike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:45 AM
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52. ok
now that we have that cleared up:woohoo:
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LeftHandPath Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:10 AM
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49. Gawd...
And I thought the people of Texas were idiots.
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Steerpike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:29 AM
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50. only a little less than 1/4 are idiots here...
then another 1/8 are morons...the rest are normal to above normal intelligence,
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LeftHandPath Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 03:26 PM
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53. Haha...
:rofl:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 04:42 PM
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54. `
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