Conyers wants Holder to appoint a special prosecutor to look into abuses

[Juche]

Source: The Public record



“The Attorney General should appoint a Special Counsel to determine whether there were criminal violations committed pursuant to Bush Administration policies that were undertaken under unreviewable war powers, including enhanced interrogation, extraordinary rendition, and warrantless domestic surveillance,” Conyers’s report says. “In this regard, the report firmly rejects the notion that we should move on from these matters.”

However, Conyers has not formally asked the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel as he had last year when he and 55 other House Democrats signed a letter sent to Attorney General Michael Mukasey seeking a special prosecutor to investigate the growing body of evidence that Bush administration officials had sanctioned torture, which had been documented by the International Committee of the Red Cross.




Read more: http://www.pubrecord.org/law/815-conyers-wants-holder-to-appoint-a-special-counsel-to-probe-bush-crimes.html

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I'll believe it when I see it.

[villager]

1. well, based on the record of the "Ragin' Dems!" so far,

I'm sure this going to happen practically before this thread gets posted!

[republicansarewhores]

18. Jesus Christ Conyers...

Shit or get off the pot. You've been dangling investigations into the Bush Crime Family since the fucking 2006 Democratic win. It's like the fucking boy who cried wolf with this guy. Get some gonads and DO SOMETHING ALREADY!

RAW

[FlyingSquirrel]

22. No fuckin shit. n/t

[FourScore]

2. Conyers Wants Holder to Appoint a Special Counsel to Probe Bush Crimes

Source: The Public Record

On Thursday, House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers quietly released the final draft of an extensive report he first unveiled in January documenting the Bush administration’s “unreviewable war powers” and the possible crimes committed in implementing those policies.

In order to determine whether Bush officials broke laws, Conyers has recommended that Attorney General Eric Holder appoint a special prosecutor to launch a criminal inquiry to investigate, among other things, whether “enhanced interrogation techniques” used against alleged terrorist detainees violated international and federal laws against torture...

SNIP

...“The Attorney General should appoint a Special Counsel to determine whether there were criminal violations committed pursuant to Bush Administration policies that were undertaken under unreviewable war powers, including enhanced interrogation, extraordinary rendition, and warrantless domestic surveillance,” Conyers’s report says. “In this regard, the report firmly rejects the notion that we should move on from these matters...”

SNIP

...Of the 50 recommendations in the final version of his 541-page report, “Reining in the Imperial Presidency: Lessons and Recommendations Relating to the Presidency of George W. Bush,” the appointment of a special prosecutor is the top proposal Conyers has made and he believes that a criminal inquiry should be conducted alongside hearings by a “blue ribbon” panel.

In a statement posted on his website Thursday, the Michigan Democrat said the Obama administration needs to follow in the footsteps of a magistrate in Spain who has authorized prosecutors in the country to investigate and decide whether an indictment against six Bush administration officials who were involved in the creation of torture policies is warrated...

Read more: http://www.pubrecord.org/law/815-conyers-calls-for-doj-to-appoint-a-special-counsel-to-probe-bush-crimes.html

[BlooInBloo]

3. I sense another Strongly Worded Letter coming!

[FourScore]

4. lol

[Golden Raisin]

11. Which will be placed on top

of the infamous, dust-covered table that Madame Pelosi kept impeachment off. In addition to another strongly worded letter there will be much righteous and vigorous finger-wagging and audible tsk-tsk-tsk'ing at the next Committee Hearing where subpoenas will once again be ignored and absolutely no action or resolution will occur.

[stillcool]

5. too bad there wasnt' some organizing..

campaign to get like 1% of the American people to phone their representatives.

[Bluzmann57]

6. Oh

Conyers wanted impeachment and then he didn't. He has little credibility now.

[Webster Green]

7. He will issue subpeonas, and folks will have to testify if they feel like it..

Ooooh:scared:

[dmosh42]

29. And a Nasty letter if they don't comply! n/t

[Ian David]

8. Oooh... Johnny Letter Writes Again! n/t

[vanboggie]

9. Sadly, I'm afraid you're all right

SHOULD appoint...TO DETERMINE WHETHER. It's all BS. The Congressional puppet critters just can't cut the strings. Amazing how much info the fascists got from the email system designed by Rover's guy (the now-dead election stealer who who was dumb enough to get into a small plane).

Our wishy-washy "representatives" are a lost cause. They're passing off the task of charging the Bushies as war criminals to the rest of the world. Gutless wonders.

:rant:

[Wizard777]

10. Go John! Bush & Cheney must have a fair trial.

[L. Coyote]

16. Conyers released the final draft of an extensive, 541 page report

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/printers/111th/IPres090316.pdf

REINING IN THE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY
Lessons and Recommendations Relating to
the Presidency of George W. Bush

House Committee on the Judiciary Majority Staff
Final Report to Chairman John Conyers, Jr.
March 2009

Table of Contents ...
Deconstructing the Imperial Presidency ...
The September 25, 2001 War Powers Memorandum ...
Critique of John Yoo’s Flawed Theory of Presidential Supremacy ...
Politicization of the Department of Justice .....

.......... The Bush Administration’s approach to power is, at its core, little more than a
restatement of Mr. Nixon’s famous rationalization of presidential misdeeds: “When the
president does it, that means it’s not illegal.” Under this view, laws that forbid torturing or
degrading prisoners cannot constrain the president because, if the president ordered such acts as
Commander in Chief, “that means it’s not illegal.” Under this view, it is not the courts that
decide the reach of the law – it is the president – and neither the judiciary nor Congress can
constrain him. And where statutory law or the Constitution itself appear to impose obstacles to
presidential whim, creative counselors can be relied upon to reach whatever result the president
desires.

This dismissive approach to our system of checks and balances was exemplified when
the Vice President’s Chief of Staff, David Addington, appeared before the House Judiciary
Committee on June 26, 2008. As much as any individual in the Bush Administration, David
Addington is considered the architect of the concept of unchecked and unreviewable presidential
powers known as the “unitary executive” (in a New Yorker profile, a former Pentagon attorney,
Richard Schiffrin, said that he left one meeting with Mr. Addington with the impression that he
“doesn’t believe there should be co-equal branches”). Yet when I questioned Mr. Addington
about the unitary executive theory of government during our Judiciary Committee hearing, he
responded, “I frankly, don’t know what you mean by unitary theory of government.”
Perhaps nowhere was the range and scope of this most recent version of the Imperial
Presidency more apparent than within the United States Department of Justice, the cornerstone
of law enforcement in our country.

................

[Zhade]

32. He's got some fucking nerve to talk about the dismissal of checks and balances...

...considering he and his fellow fucking cowards have utterly failed to uphold their sworn Constitutional duty to hold criminals accountable.

[MasonJar]

12. Well, why are you all disparaging John Conyers? He is at least calling for

a Special Prosecutor. Holder and Obama should be doing this on their own because it is the right thing to do. Send them the letter Rep Conyers and keep their feet to the fire. This is the law.

[Juche]

13. Because this is about the 10th time he has called for justice

And the last 9 times he did nothing to follow up. It gets frustrating because it is like he assumes we are stupid.

I have written letters and made calls.

[L. Coyote]

17. Those dispagaging John Conyers should

provide links to their 600 page report on Bush crimes!
FCS! Don't knock Conyers if you are doing less than this:
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/printers/111th/IPres090316.pdf

John Conyers is supplying Holder and Obama all the evidence they need to call for a Special Prosecutor. Rather good timing too.

[chill_wind]

20. L.C. thank you for that link and cite. Bookmarking.

541 pages.......may take a while... That's more than we've seen come from anybody else.

[trthnd4jstc]

14. Indict, Try, and Imprison all War Criminals!

[Gregorian]

15. I hope this isn't California Dreaming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAhZZc_Bwps&feature=related

[FlyingSquirrel]

23. California's about to fall into the ocean.

(That'll probably happen before any kind of justice catches up with the Bush Crime Gang.)

[Titonwan]

19. Any news that covers their crimes is awakening the unwashed

and that's a good thing. I'm tired of John's stalling, but I'm behind him pushing this.

[barbtries]

21. we need to keep the pressure on

letters of support to conyers. is it appropriate to write to holder? letters to obama and our own congresspeople. the people can make it happen.

[Optical.Catalyst]

24. It is not a matter of 'if' there were criminal violations

It is a matter of which criminal violations to prosecute first

[Juche]

25. That was one of my first thoughts

We know there were violations, and we know we are required by domestic and international law to investigate and prosecute them. The evidence is clear on those things.

[BumRushDaShow]

26. STILL waiting for Rove to testify or give a deposition

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/24/karl-rove-skips-house-jud_n_169365.html

This is why people are frustrated at Conyers and his endless series of sternly worded letters or massive, book-length treatises that obfuscate the fact that none of these crooks are being held for contempt for continuing to refuse to show up to testify.

[santamargarita]

27. Do they do this just to throw us a bone now and then?

:argh:

[MellowOne]

28. But, but....

Bush wants to enjoy his carefree life in his upper-class society neighborhood in Dallas. What a tragedy if he had to spend the rest of his life wearing orange instead of beige! (sarcasm)

[XXXMADAM]

30. NOW INVESTIGATING!!! Military I.G.'s

***I am contacting the military I.G.'s who are presently going thru the BushCo files. These files are then passed onto the wimps in Congress who need the backbone backing of the military to march forward because MSM is blocking it.
In my own case it was a Green Beret who helped me get out of Texas prison, there was no other way, CIA PIMPS had buried me deep. Even Bush went to the military for action because he could not get it from congress. Deadhead wimpy congress is the whole reason CIA/FBI PIMPS can exist and rule, Sextort and HANG people with their Sextorted controlled Media cohorts.
xxx

Office of the Director of National Intelligence - 703-733-8600
Ms. Roslyn A. Minor
Inspector General
Washington, DC 20511
http://www.dni.gov /


Department of Defense - Pentagon switchboard 703-545-6700
Gordon S. Heddell
Acting Inspector General
1400 Defense Pentagon
Washington DC 20301-1400
www.Defenselink.mil

[Zhade]

31. Talk is cheap.

NT!