Senate Republicans back Coleman all the way (to SCOTUS)

[onehandle]

Source: The Hill

Senate Republicans are backing their beleaguered colleague in Minnesota, saying former Sen. Norm Coleman should push his election case all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Coleman has been battling Democrat Al Franken since November for the seat that used to be his, but recent court decisions have moved against him in the legal battle over the recount. Franken technically has a 225-vote lead, and last week a decision gave him a stronger chance of clinging to it.

But Coleman's colleagues in the Senate say they trust him and his legal team, and are willing to support a bid to the U.S. Supreme Court if the Minnesota Supreme Court rules against him.

"I'll back Norm as far as he believes he should go," said Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.). "He's there on the ground, he's the one with the best information and he's a good and honorable man. It's very hotly contested, very close, and there's a lot of questions."

Read more: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/senate-republicans-back-coleman-all-the-way-2009-04-04.html

[wundermaus]

1. Sore loser...

needs to grow up... and move on.

(isn't that what they said about Gore in 2000?)

[L. Coyote]

16. More like a STALL tactic, delay the inevitable, obstructing justice, blocking

the Obama OLC nomination, and every other obstruction they can devise,
for as long as they can forestall one more Senator voting against them.

They certainly are losers, they sure may be sore losers,
they also certainly act like Corrupt Bastards Club lawyers.

[saigon68]

20. Senator Sam Brownstain

[Deja Q]

2. Well, if even half the articles posted by DUers about Coleman's campain buddies are true,

then Coleman has no chance.

[AndyTiedye]

23. With THIS Supreme Court, Any Repiglickin Has a Very Good Chance

They would not be above using "Bush v. Gore" as a precedent to give it to Coleman, just because he's a Republican!

[beac]

36. Actually, when the SCOTUS decided Bush v. Gore, they specifically said

it could NOT be used as precedent in future cases. In other words they said, "Yes, we KNOW we are raping the Constitution, but just this once, mkay??"

:puke:

[AndyTiedye]

42. Which Certainly Won't Stop Them From Doing the Same Thing Again

The Bush-league Court is a gift that will keep on giving and giving for DECADES.

[tomm2thumbs]

3. it'll be great fodder for the fact that the GOP is trying to interfere AGAIN with elections

they do these things at their own peril - and continue to set fire to the bridge they are standing on

[RDANGELO]

4. In the mean time.

The people of Minnesota get represented with only one senator. Every other state has two. The Democratic senators nee dot start making some noise on this, and seat Al after the Minnesota Supreme Court comes out with it's decision.

[rhett o rick]

5. The real question is, what are the Senate Democrats doing to help Sen Frankin? I hope more than

they did to help Lamont.

[Joey Liberal]

19. Senate Dems have no stones

If Senate Dems had any balls they'd be slam dunking the republiNazis on this issue.

[rhett o rick]

35. I think there is another reason. From 2000 to 2006 the Democrats literally did nothing

using the excuse that the republiCons were in control. They even supported a number of the horrible republiCon bills like Iraq resolution. Patriot Act, and MCT. The Democrats in the Senate didn't even bother to filibuster. They just went along. When Ned Lamont tried for the Senate as a DEMOCRAT, the Senate Democrats turned their backs on him in favor of good-ole-Lieberman. Now that the Democrats have control, they now have blue dog's to support the republiCons. Harry Reid doesn't want to criticize the blue dogs that will throw the power to the republiCons.

This all looks very suspicious to me. The republiCons and corporate America always seems to win.

It makes sense if you recognize that the war isn't between Democrats and republiCons it is between the middle class and the ruling class. Seems many if not most Democrats support the ruling class.

[Webster Green]

6. Whining losers!

From the article:

"There are very important issues involved -- constitutional issues -- and I have no qualms about saying that if he can, he ought to push it all the way," said Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah). "We're so sick and tired of having one set of rules for Democrats they don't abide by, and then another set of rules for Republicans. The Democrats didn't count the ballots the way they should and they didn't put the protections in that they should. It was the Republicans who were better at counting ballots and doing what was right and following the law. They don't do it on the other side as much. :eyes:

[pattmarty]

7. There ought be a full court press by ALL left/liberal organizations.....

..........to hit all media with the meme that the Republicans are blocking and interfering in the democratic process. I mean a coordinated all out attack on the Republicans over this.

[indimuse]

10. yeah...

..like the Repugs coordinated *tea-parties* taking place all over this country- with a concerted effort to damage Obama and his administration! They are SICK...BUT ORGANIZED.:eyes:

[pattmarty]

13. That's what I'm talking about, man.

[nradisic]

8. We have to stop this BS...

The GOP is determined to become an ever smaller minority party...let's give them a hand. I cannot come up with an insult big enough for this cabal....they are truly scum of the earth.

[FudaFuda]

9. Christ, even Nixon had more class than this (1960 election). nt.

[jwirr]

11. Of course they do - it is their new policy - put any stumbling block

they can find in the road of the Democratic majority - legal or not.

[LynnTheDem]

12. How surprising of the sore-loser Republics.

Shocked shocked I tell you.

[AlbertCat]

14. and there's a lot of questions."

Yeah! Like:

If "Franken technically has a 225-vote lead," then why is any of this happening? It's only "hotly contested" in the GOP mind.

[truthisfreedom]

15. Hey normie! You gonna renounce this support?

You said no supremes, normie. Which is it? You gonna leave the state of MN with no senator for as long as possible?

Why can't you admit you're a loser, you womanizing piece of filth?

[zbdent]

17. um ... they lost, and they need to get over it?

"The votes have been counted and recounted and recounted! You lost! Quit Whining!"

eww ... I was just channeling a freepturd from November and December of 2000 ...

[Joey Liberal]

18. The GOP fears Stuart Smalley:).................... n/t

[Kip Humphrey]

21. What Kerry in 2004 and the Dems in 2006 should have done:

Fight for their elections like our country depended on it... Might have saved thousands of lives and our economy... just saying.

[bobshin]

32. But then * wouldn't have become president because then the

computer machines would have been disallowed. Both sides are in on this game they play with voters. In 8 years they'll throw another carrot out to convince people to vote Republican. And back and forth a big volleyball game with only two sides and the same players.

[karynnj]

39. Bush was already President in 2004

[karynnj]

41. Not really - Coleman/Franken is far closer than Kerry was Ohio

In addition it was the Presidency in a time of war - not one of 100 Senators. The fact is that Ohio would have had to declare electors by Jan 6. In 2000, it was said if the election was deemed tainted the legislature would have jurisdiction - Ohio's legislature was Republican.

Even now there is NO proof Kerry got more Ohio votes - most means used to suppress the vote were not even illegal. Let's say Kerry did fight it to the Supreme Court - the same court that awarded the Presidency to Bush. In 2000, Gore had the popular vote, in 2004 Bush did. In 2000, there were still ballots to examine and a chance Gore would gain the lead. In 2004 there were not sufficient errors on cast votes that could lead to Kerry winning. The same lawyers who supported Gore, told Kerry there was no chance.

As to 2006 I have no idea what you are talking about.

[AlinPA]

22. Coleman is going to the SCOTUS. The republican controlled US Supreme Court will not pass up

a chance to have a fellow republican seated. People have said they will not take the case. Why not?

[MiniMe]

37. Because it is a states rights issue

It is a State election, and the States control their own rules on voting. I don't think that the Supremes will touch this.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

24. When are the Senate Democrats going to seat the winner? Fuck SCOTUS

Reid's got no backbone, time to take the gloves off, put some blood on the asphalt and make it happen. Got sucked into voting for BO this time but it will be third party from now on, the real Democratic Party has been dead for decades. But Al Franken would definitely be an old school progressive US Senator with a sense of morality not just another corporate whore in a suit.

[AndyTiedye]

26. The Repiggies Know that the Supreme Court is On Their Side. Harry Reid Knows It Too

If the Senate Democrats seat Franken, the Republicans will immediately seek,
and obtain, another "emergency" ruling from the USSC, similar to what they got in Bush v. Gore.
That ruling will award the seat to Coleman. Just because he's a Republican. Just like Bush v. Gore.

The USSC is far more partisan now than it was in 2000. Is any other outcome even conceivable?

[FreeStateDemocrat]

31. The idiot had the lead (bogus) in 2000, how can they do it with Franken leading even after the

recount?

I think I just answered my own question, SCOTUS will invalidate the recount.

[DallasNE]

25. What Is The Federal Issue For Coleman

To use in an appeal to the Federal Courts? I don't see a hat for Coleman to hang an appeal on. Will the Federal Court accept a political appeal when there is no legal basis? It would make them a laughing stock if they did.

At this point it is not about Coleman getting back his seat but instead blocking Franken from being seated. I don't understand why Franken isn't seated pending final appeals. That would certainly speed things up if the real goal was finding the real winner. In fact, I would hope that the Minnesota Supreme Court would order the certification of Franken as the winner. The election was a full five months ago. There is no excuse for this dragging out this long. None.

[efilon]

29. Lawsuit

Just rolling things over and I'm wondering, is there any way voters in Minnesota could file a lawsuit against the Coleman campaign for denying their rights to representation? Just a thought. I'm sure if it was possible it would have been done and maybe has been done.

[Grinchie]

27. How much money are they spending on this?

My normal rule of thumb for expense versus reward when it comes to court cases is 20% of final compensation to Lawyers fees.

Now, one has to question what kind of payoff Coleman would receive if he were to prevail. Exactly whose purse string is he attatched to?

[IndianaGreen]

28. The Bolshevik solution is to declare the GOP an enemy combatant organization

and liquidate the whole bunch of these criminals.

[Sal Minella]

30. Nice-Teeth Normie has already closed down his Senate offices and taken a job with

some Israeli-liaison outfit -- The Republicans aren't really expecting to get Normie back into the Senate, they are just playing dog-in-the-manger and making every effort they can to delay seating Franken.

The SCOTUS gambit is just another delaying tactic. If SCOTUS refuses to hear the case, the GOP will probably take it before the United Nations. So long as they can keep Franken from being seated, they are winning. And Normie can happily go on collecting his paycheck from his real job with the Israelis.

[edc]

33. Seat the guy!

:patriot: Then, when the Republicans throw their usual hissy fit and storm out in protest, make some appointments and pass some legislation they've been obstructing. If SCOTUS overturns the will of the people of Minnesota and declares Coleman the winner a.k.a Bush v. Gore, the Democrats had better tell them to blow it out their asses this time. I've grown heartily sick of the Senate Dem's "Cum Ba Ya" hands across the isle brotherhood of the privileged BS.

[IDemo]

34. This case has become nothing short of a new method of election theft by repukes

Even if they ultimately lose at the SCOTUS, they will have effectively removed a Democratic vote for a significant chunk of the term.
It should be pitchfork time for Minnesota voters by now.

[bdamomma]

38. repigs how low can they go, stealing elections again seems to be their m.o.

[paparush]

40. Republicans in Denial - Stamping their feet, shaking their tiny, angry fists.