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No Passaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:08 AM
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Lawmaker defends comment on Asians
Source: CHRON.COM

A North Texas legislator during House testimony on voter identification legislation said Asian-descent voters should adopt names that are “easier for Americans to deal with.”

The comments caused the Texas Democratic Party on Wednesday to demand an apology from state Rep. Betty Brown, R-Terrell. But a spokesman for Brown said her comments were only an attempt to overcome problems with identifying Asian names for voting purposes.

The exchange occurred late Tuesday as the House Elections Committee heard testimony from Ramey Ko, a representative of the Organization of Chinese Americans.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6365320.html
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:13 AM
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1. I completely agree with her
Edited on Thu Apr-09-09 11:33 AM by DavidDvorkin
I have endless trouble pronouncing those weird last names, like Weng and Ko and Park and Kim.

By contrast, everyone I meet has a ridiculously easy time pronouncing my Western surname.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:14 AM
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2. Even better was her comment about "you and your citizens" - I guess
in her mind, non whites aren't citizens? So why are they voting?

“Rather than everyone here having to learn Chinese — I understand it’s a rather difficult language — do you think that it would behoove you and your citizens to adopt a name that we could deal with more readily here?” Brown said.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:18 AM
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3. See prior thread
TX Rep. Brown (R): Asians should change their names 2make them ‘easier for Americans to deal with.’
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Ian%20David/6270

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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:21 AM
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4. HU'S ON FIRST
Edited on Thu Apr-09-09 11:33 AM by HowHasItComeToThis
HU JINTAO THAT IS
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:25 AM
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5. Hwat's on second. n/t
Edited on Thu Apr-09-09 11:26 AM by Ian David
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:34 AM
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7. Third laugh out loud of the day from reading at DU Thanks!
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:31 AM
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6. Why is it Repugs never learn the first rule?

When you're in a hole, stop digging.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:35 PM
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11. As long as there is dirt they want to dig?
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:42 AM
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8. It will be no fun to go to an Asian restaurant for him anymore - all that spit in his rice

I suggest he eat at Weinersntizel, I mean Weenershnitzel, Uh - oh god, I don't know how to spell those idiotic germanic names. He needs to git them too. (sarcasm)


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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:45 AM
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9. Jesus, I wonder how she feels about Mexicans???
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:54 PM
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12. oh duh, Jesus.
JK...but it feels like you can just HEAR them, can't you.

Completely. Out. Of. Touch.
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Buck Laser Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:01 PM
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10. Keb Mo
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 01:25 PM
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13. She should change her name to Betty Winger Cliche
After all, Brown is a common surname and she might be hard to identify at the polls..
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:08 PM
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14. I think I'll just call her Boo-boo
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 06:24 AM
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15. So what about Zbigniew Brzezinski ??
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:13 AM
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40. On yesterday's thread on this I asked what Rod Blagojevich might say. //nt
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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16. Texas GOP Lawmaker Suggests Asians Adopt "Easier Names"
Edited on Thu Apr-09-09 10:20 PM by villager
Source: Houston Chronicle

Lawmaker defends comment on Asians

Call for voters to simplify their names not racially motivated, Terrell Republican says

By R.G. RATCLIFFE

AUSTIN — A North Texas legislator during House testimony on voter identification legislation said Asian-descent voters should adopt names that are “easier for Americans to deal with.”

The comments caused the Texas Democratic Party on Wednesday to demand an apology from state Rep. Betty Brown, R-Terrell. But a spokesman for Brown said her comments were only an attempt to overcome problems with identifying Asian names for voting purposes.

The exchange occurred late Tuesday as the House Elections Committee heard testimony from Ramey Ko, a representative of the Organization of Chinese Americans.

Ko told the committee that people of Chinese, Japanese and Korean descent often have problems voting and other forms of identification because they may have a legal transliterated name and then a common English name that is used on their driver’s license on school registrations.

<snip>


Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6365320.html
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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17. Not as bad as what FDR did, but still pretty bad. nt
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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18. Edit to clarify; says AMERICAN CITIZEN Asians should adapt "easier names"
AMERICAN CITIZENS

But hey, it`s not about `race`. :eyes:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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19. As opposed to, say, Italians? Armenians? Germans? Russians?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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22. I guess she thinks she can pronounce their names. Just them darn Asian-Americans
she has trouble with.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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26. Like Kim? Sing? Vong? Hu? Wang? Lee? Chan?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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29. She`s a republican.
What can you do; they are the dumbest MFers on the planet.
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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23. Many were changed when they emigrated here
At Ellis Island, and other places.
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friedgreentomatoes Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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34. Greeks! Greeks! Greeks!
One of the longest last names
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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36. What about Al Szyzywzyzywzycz?
Or Nikki Gropopopoulous?

Why not sick the Name Police on them, their ancestors, and their cursed deszendyntz?

No right-thinking Republican parents would ever name their kid Konapiliahi - it's downright un-Amurkin

Let's Start an Investigayshun
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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20. I once worked with a Japanese gal who had real problems
pronouncing my name. One day she looked at me in frustration and asked, "Why couldn't they have named you Sue?"

Of course I told her she could call me whatever she wanted to as long as it wasn't too insulting and we both got a laugh out of it.

However, suggesting any immigrant population change something as personal as their names is insulting beyond belief, just because linguistic blockheads can't say them correctly.

Most Asian people I know who want to keep their names go by initials, at least in the first generation. They give the second generation an ethnic name and the English name closest to it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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27. And I have a Hebrew name and an English name.
Immigrant tradition.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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21. easier names?
This Texas idiot can't cope with names like "Park" and "Wong" and "Chang"? Simple one syllable names are beyond her? Can she even spell her own name? What a typical Republican flaming dumbass.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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24. Just wait until she discovers Polish last names...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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28. Yeah, I forgot Polish. And Rumanian.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:25 AM
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41. Don't forget Poland!
Ahhhh....bashing W just never gets old.....
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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25. ...he's just calling Americans stupid and lazy
unintended subtext, I'm sure.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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30. Welcome to Texas!
She was probably confused by the word "transliterated" and assuming it had something to do with "sexual orientation" she simply wanted to change the subject. Republicans in Texas do that a lot.

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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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32. Exactly!!
Why is it there are so many nut balls in public office in TX? Guess it's because they represent so many nut balls.

I'm always nervous when I drive through that f*cked up state. They certainly have their share of dumb asses. Fortunately they have some pretty sharp folks there too, or I'd be demonstrating to give the whole f*cking state back to Mexico....if they would take it back.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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31. Yep those amazaingly difficult Korean names
Kim
Park
Baek
Go
Hyun
Shin
Gwak
Jo

Betty Brown is obviously an illiterate moron
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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33. Well, it was easier for those of us whose ancestors came thru Ellis Island!
The 'authorities' just changed their names, when they couldn't figure them out!

Really! :shrug:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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35. "you and your citizens" she says.
“Rather than everyone here having to learn Chinese — I understand it’s a rather difficult language — do you think that it would behoove you and your citizens to adopt a name that we could deal with more readily here?”

Again, she was speaking to an American citizen.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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37. Like, oh I don't know... BOBBY????
And folks wonder why so many Indians refuse to call him that.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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38. Easier for Americans to deal with." Why aren't they named sensible names, like "Trak?"
The very nerve of people in other countries choosing names they deem appropriate for their own children rather than for Republican half-wits just makes me overwrought. I don't know when I've been this upset. Time for a Lone Star beer, while singing "The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You," and then a nap.

http://www.norvillecenter.org.nyud.net:8090/Betty-Brown-for-web.jpg

Rep Betty Brown, god love her. By the way, don't mess with Texas.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 AM
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39. How would anyone know if someone messed with Texas? Seems pretty well messed up already.
OTOH, we have an idiot former senator that doesn't know when to quit, so I shouldn't be tossing any stones.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 06:19 PM
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42. This is making me think of the movie "Aliens"
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 06:19 PM by DebbieCDC
When the aliens got released to earth after quarantine, they all picked "American" names because their language was unpronouceable by humans. Who can forget the great cop name of "Sam Francisco" and other characters like "Harley Davidson". If I recall correctly, when cop James Caan ("Sykes") was laughing at this, his alien partner politely informed him that in the alien tongue, "Sykes" was the equivalent of "excrement".

Take a lesson Rep. Brown :rofl:

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